Quasar Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) Everything that was awesome on the wiki in September: Doom Pre-Release Material Machine gun - The fully automatic rifle weapon detailed in the Doom Bible and found in v0.3 through v0.5. Probjectile - Tom Hall's idea for providing real-time enemy stats by firing a probe at enemies. Spray rifle - An idea for a stronger sort of shotgun, before the SSG existed. Books Final Doom: Unauthorized Secrets Doom Eternal Grenade launcher Mods Redemption of the Slain DemWAD01 Person Articles We now have the ability to autogenerate mapper articles thanks to Xymph. Due to the sheer volume, I'm not linking these. Mike Alfredson (Use3D) Jason Allison (rf`) Ryan Anderson (obake) Antares031 Argentum Jamie Bainbridge (Super Jamie) Josh Baker (mrthejoshmon) Jeff Banks (Pottus) Vladimir Bespalov (Demonologist) Alun Bestor (Viggles) Maxime Bisiaux (Datacore) Pedro Arturo Gomez Blanco (PAGB666) Jean Bon (Jambon) Brendan Bradley (Bucket) Mike Brincka (brinks) C30N9 Blair Cahue (killingblair) Captain Toenail ChaingunnerX Stephen Clark (The Ultimate DooMer) Eli Cohen (ProcessingControl) James Collins (an mutt) CorSair Ian Cunnings (The Flange Peddler) Matthew D. (Matt534Dog) Lorenzo Davia (Ultimate Lorenzo) Didy Steve Duff Dusk Matthew Edwards (Foodles) Eradrop Mike Ewer (Mik57) Darren Finch (Doom Dude) Arnaud Florian (Oxyde) Gaspe Gary Gosson Gothic Jeffrey Graham (psyren) Sebastian Graham (General Rainbow Bacon) Adrian Hanekom (DeathevokatioN) Chris Harriman (Impboy) Pavel Hodek Alexis Jeanson (Roofi) Michael Jurich (Death Egg) Jeff King (Egregor) Kuchikitaichou Ilya Lazarev (joe-ilya) Andy Leaver Damian Lee (Lexus Alyus) Conor Maddin (ClonedPickle) Glen McColl (glenzinho) Mephisto Kieran Millar (Melon) Mithran Denizen Justin Murphy (KingKill33) Nautilus Nes Haggay Niv NoisyVelvet Dávid Norbert (NoneeLlama) Nub hat Nuxius Arthur O. (Archi) Olympus Brendt Pantley (Megalyth) Mark Pedersen (Macro11_1) Micah Petersen (Jaws in Space) Rand Phares Steven Phares Philnemba Brandon Potgiesser Jason Root (Hellbent) Ryathaen (scwiba) Zoltán Schmidt (Katamori) Paul Schmitz Jochen Schneidau (Angus) Scypek2 Thomas Seifert (tourniquet) SFoZ911 Jeff Shark (Marnetmar) Christopher Shepherd (ArmouredBlood) Jimmy Sieben (EvilGenius) Alberto Sposito (Ismaele) Andy Stewart (eschdoom) Jack Stewart (Jaxxoon R) Cody Stirm (Butts) StormCatcher.77 Ben Taylor (Dreadopp) Dan Townsend (sgt dopey) Daniel Trim (dt_) Henri Vuortenvirta (Icytux) Lee Wallis (DooMAD) Dietmar Westerteicher (Dia) Tom White (Hyena) Whoo Andrew Wood (Catoptromancy) Worst-vd-plas XenoNemesis Zap610 Przemek Zimny (alterworldruler) Neal Ziring Jacob Zuchowski (ellmo) Joonas Äijälä (Jodwin) Previous Issue Edited October 10, 2018 by Quasar 16 Quote Share this post Link to post
Tristan Posted October 10, 2018 Folks, if you see your name on that list of people, be aware that the script only handles stuff that already has a wiki article. If stuff is missing, feel free to add it yourself, just keep the same format as the rest of the list. Thanks :) WantedPages: 3,164 - Down 338 from last issue. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
Xymph Posted October 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, Quasar said: Mods Plus map pages for the remaining megawads in the 32in24 series (8 through 11, 13 and 15). 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Marcaek Posted October 11, 2018 Can I make a request here? Would it be possible to add a category for maps which contain a separate deathmatch area? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Xymph Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) 21 hours ago, Marcaek said: Can I make a request here? Would it be possible to add a category for maps which contain a separate deathmatch area? Funny you should mention that, as the same thought already crossed my mind while working on exactly those arenas (with separate map views, spawn lists and thing stats) during the past week. That category is now online with the initial set of relevant levels -- I still need to revisit nearly 200 already processed WADs and check for any further such maps. Edited October 12, 2018 by Xymph 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
VGA Posted October 13, 2018 The Doomwiki article "Final Doom: Unauthorized Secrets" should be "Final Doom Game Secrets: Unauthorized" according to those official ISBN listings and the book title. Also, did the book include a floppy? It says on the title it contains detailed custom maps. Huh? By the way, is there a site where I can find game manuals and maybe ... ahem ... abandonware strategy guides? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
fraggle Posted October 14, 2018 On 10/13/2018 at 3:43 PM, 𝕍𝔾𝔸 said: The Doomwiki article "Final Doom: Unauthorized Secrets" should be "Final Doom Game Secrets: Unauthorized" according to those official ISBN listings and the book title. I was unsure about the title too (the cover has stylized text that makes it a bit ambiguous about how you're supposed to read it), but the Library of Congress lists it as "Final Doom: Unauthorized Secrets" as does OpenLibrary. Not convinced? As soon as you open the cover, the first page of the book says "Final Doom Unauthorized Secrets": The introduction chapter says "Welcome to Final Doom: Unauthorized Secrets": and finally (perhaps most compelling of all) it's listed at the bottom of every left hand page of the book next to the page number: In summary, unless there's a strong objection I'm going to argue for keeping the current page title. On 10/13/2018 at 3:43 PM, 𝕍𝔾𝔸 said: Also, did the book include a floppy? It says on the title it contains detailed custom maps. Huh? No floppy, I think "detailed custom maps" just refers to the fact that it includes a printed map of every level in Final Doom. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
VGA Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) Ah, ok, I just clicked on 3 of those ISBN links one after the other and they all had the other name. But the joke's on them! [lowkey]If you have it in electronic format please send it to me.[/lowkey] EDIT: Tried to edit the article and changed the OpenLibrary link to this: https://openlibrary.org/books/OL1015527M/Final_doom Edited October 14, 2018 by 𝕍𝔾𝔸 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Quasar Posted October 15, 2018 6 hours ago, fraggle said: In summary, unless there's a strong objection I'm going to argue for keeping the current page title. The alternate should be a redirect though, if it's not already. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
fraggle Posted October 15, 2018 35 minutes ago, Quasar said: The alternate should be a redirect though, if it's not already. Done. On 10/13/2018 at 3:43 PM, 𝕍𝔾𝔸 said: By the way, is there a site where I can find game manuals and maybe ... ahem ... abandonware strategy guides? Game manuals you can sometimes find PDFs of though I don't have any good suggestions. As for strategy guides like these, after collecting a bunch of them to document them on the wiki, I can honestly say that unless you're "collecting for the sake of collecting" there's very little point in getting any of them. Guides like these are perhaps most useful for the adventure game genre (years ago, Sierra used to sell hint guides for their games which no doubt were very useful when you inevitably got stuck). For a game like Doom, not so much. Sure, there's *some* value in having a map and being told where all the secret areas are, but you'll find far more comprehensive information on the wiki nowadays. A lot of these strategy guides are really low effort. This particular book dedicates only two pages to every level, each is very brief and by the end of Plutonia you can tell that the author was getting bored and couldn't be bothered to write anything. Some of them, like this one, copied and reworded bits of the Doom FAQ just to add extra filler. The worst example of this I've seen is actually the official Heretic strategy guide, which puffed out the book by including four appendices that are just printed copies of the text files that come with the game. Ever wished you had a printed copy of DM.TXT? This book has you covered. They're a historical curiosity that's vaguely interesting and nice to have as part of a collection but if you're looking for something actually useful it's not worth bothering. Indeed it's hard to believe they were ever especially useful, even back when the game had just come out. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
Xymph Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) On 10/12/2018 at 10:39 PM, Xymph said: That category is now online with the initial set of relevant levels -- I still need to revisit nearly 200 already processed WADs and check for any further such maps. Another 14 levels have now been added to the category with map views and data. Those 55 are all I found among the WAD covered so far, although it is entirely possible that I missed some. :) In that case, just add the category to the pertaining map page, and I'll take another look. Edited October 16, 2018 by Xymph 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
SiFi270 Posted October 17, 2018 Does this area from TNT map26 count? It's visible in single player/coop and contains monsters, but is only properly accessible in deathmatch. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Xymph Posted October 17, 2018 2 hours ago, SiFi270 said: Does this area from TNT map26 count? It's visible in single player/coop and contains monsters, but is only properly accessible in deathmatch. That seems like a special case indeed, and... I don't know whether it should be in the arena category. Opinions, anyone else? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted October 17, 2018 I'd say yes, since the deathmatch arena is separated from the single/coop area -- you can't reach the single-player zone from the deathmatch zone and vice-versa, so functionally they are separate. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Xymph Posted October 18, 2018 23 hours ago, Gez said: I'd say yes, since the deathmatch arena is separated from the single/coop area -- you can't reach the single-player zone from the deathmatch zone and vice-versa, so functionally they are separate. Okay, done. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
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