how do i add monsters with source code?

[hella knight]

This community is too nice lol. I thought this guy was trolling, acting like an entitled asshole with a project that will clearly never happen because they've got no idea what they're doing, but people still put this much effort into helping!

Still, it's nice for when people genuinely do need a hand and they aren't judged for 'stupid' questions.

 

Edit: Christ, I just read the update in their other thread. Good luck dude :p

 

Edited March 14, 2019 by hella knight

[Loud Silence]

I'm purist, but i would not play Doom on Dosbox while i can use faithful ports such as Choco Doom and Eternity Engine. Dosbox can't run Doom as good as port (at least for me). Also i accept Boom format, it's like Vanilla's brother. I don't see anything wrong in DEHACKED either.

What i don't accept: ZDoom family, HW accelerated mode even with filters turned off, freelook (vertical), jump, crouch, 3D models, MODs that changes gameplay too much.

I don't know about other purists, but i think they are ok to play with faithful source port instead of Dosbox.

I wish you luck, but i think you should think what you actually can do.

[Maes]

17 hours ago, hella knight said:

This community is too nice lol. I thought this guy was trolling, acting like an entitled asshole with a project that will clearly never happen because they've got no idea what they're doing, but people still put this much effort into helping!

Still, it's nice for when people genuinely do need a hand and they aren't judged for 'stupid' questions.

 

A few years ago, all the rage for such "pie in the sky" projects were Hi-Res and/or True Color sprite replacements (or models), later followed by Doom remakes in other engines. With the exception of models (where there were a few guys that actually knew their shit, like those behind the Doom Ascension mod), the only common link between them was that all were looking for shortcuts to an (admittedly) gargantuan tasks. It's not really easy to recolor/redraw all of Doom's 2200+ sprites and textures (I think), so many were looking for "automagic solutions". Too much dreaming, not enough elbow grease. All remakes in other engines that I've seen also never quite got beyond maybe a half-working E1M1 or MAP01 conversion and a couple of monsters, since they also implied a total resource remake.

Edited March 15, 2019 by Maes

[Kira]

On 3/14/2019 at 4:51 PM, memes4lyfe said:

yes. i refuse to be lazy in making an expansion. i REFUSE to replace actors. i want to add MORE!

If you refuse to be "lazy", then live by your word and don't ask someone to produce code so you can copy-paste it. By the way, you won't go far with just a piece of code for an enemy if you don't know how to implement it, how to compile your sourceport, and all the niceties that would make you able to do the work yourself if you learned that in the first place.

[memes4lyfe]

22 minutes ago, Kira said:

If you refuse to be "lazy", then live by your word and don't ask someone to produce code so you can copy-paste it. By the way, you won't go far with just a piece of code for an enemy if you don't know how to implement it, how to compile your sourceport, and all the niceties that would make you able to do the work yourself if you learned that in the first place.

oops. sorry. i guess i will have to  learn dehacked and replace some stuff. speaking of which,  is it possible to replace a decoration with a weapon or not? 

[Benjogami]

10 minutes ago, memes4lyfe said:

[...] is it possible to replace a decoration with a weapon or not? 

 

On 3/14/2019 at 10:33 AM, -TDRR- said:

[...] weapons need to replace weapons.

 

[Kira]

11 minutes ago, memes4lyfe said:

oops. sorry. i guess i will have to  learn dehacked and replace some stuff. speaking of which,  is it possible to replace a decoration with a weapon or not? 

I appreciate that you are reflecting on what you were about to attempt. Not a bad thing by any stretch of the imagination but it's a lot to take in and not practical for your idea. Tweaking a deh will be a lot more doable for you now.

 

Do you mean replacing one of the things like pillars or hanging corpses into a weapon you can use? @Benjogami has beat me to the punch: you can't do much more than change the existing weapons' behavior with Dehacked. If you want to have more freedom, then Decorate is what you need (which limits you on port choices but they tend to be the popular ones, so at least you won't find yourself without any feedback).

[Kappes Buur]

Check out this post

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/74883-recovered-dosdoom-02/

 

On the other hand, if you want to go the DEHACKED route, have a look at

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/a-c/allhell

for some example monsters, weapons and ammo.

Edited March 15, 2019 by Kappes Buur

[Dark Pulse]

As others have said, vanilla Doom is highly restrictive in how much you can add or modify. DeHackEd is limited in how it can replace stuff, and adding to the source code constitutes forking the source code and making your own port.

 

It's been said before, but really, if you want to add stuff, you're much better off switching to an engine where adding stuff is relatively painless and easy, like ZDoom.

 

Perhaps you can tell us just why you want to have all this stuff added to vanilla? Is there some specific reason you must stick to the original game's pretty strict constraints?

 

(It won't be vanilla anymore with your additions, by the way.)

Edited March 15, 2019 by Dark Pulse

[memes4lyfe]

ok thanks for the replies guys.

(also, a new beta for my map pack is out. just saying. not sh*tposting or anything)

[Dude27th]

On 3/15/2019 at 4:47 PM, memes4lyfe said:

ok thanks for the replies guys.

(also, a new beta for my map pack is out. just saying. not sh*tposting or anything)

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH !
I like how you started this thread with a "I don't fu**ing care guys!" attitude , and you ended with "thank you guys uwu".

By the way , "Decorate" is all that you needed I think , you can make and actor and make them replace other previous actors if you wish.