Please support your favorite content creators.

[Jimmy]

I love this community.

 

Do you love what I do?

 

Then please consider supporting me on Patreon.

<<< https://www.patreon.com/jamespaddockmusic >>>

You'll get rewards in return.

 

 

As I said, I love this community, but I can't do this gig for free forever, especially when I've been consistently struggling to find decent employment in my part of the world.

Any and all support would mean the world to me.

 

 

Subscribing to my Patreon will get you:

• Access to my personal Discord and the community of people there.
• Access to WIP tracks as I post them to my Discord.
• A shoutout onstream.
• At the upper levels (just for $10 per month) you may request new music specially from me - I'll write you a piece in 2 hours on my livestream.
• A pretty good deal overall I think.

 

I also have a Ko-fi. If you can't afford a rolling monthly donation to me, just buy me a few cups of coffee or whatever.

<<< https://ko-fi.com/jamespaddockmusic >>>

 

 

At the very least if you can't afford to donate:

• Please subscribe to me on YouTube. I upload new music there once a week every "MIDI Monday".
• Please follow me on Twitch. I do two weekly composing streams, a 1-hour and a 2-hour. They're pretty fun and your viewership would be immensely appreciated.
• Spread the word about me.
  • If you're on Twitter, please smash the everloving hell out of the Tweet button.
  • If you're on Facebook, please collide your mouse cursor with the Share button.

 

 

Another reminder that I'm open to commissions.

Commission rates

MIDI commission rates

If you don't know what my music sounds like, check out these demo reels.

 

 

Thanks, all. Love you.

 

- James

Edited May 13, 2019 by Jimmy
added mention of my YouTube channel

[elend]

While I am not really into that Patreon thing, I must say, that the "commissions" sound very interesting actually. Also, you might have forgotten your Bandcamp account, which can be another way for people to support you. I'll buy those two Back To Saturn X OSTs in a moment.

[StormCatcher.77]

That nasty feeling ... when you get paid in cash and live in the middle of the taiga, without the possibility of somehow manipulating the means online ...

Sorry, at the moment I can not help, but I think I can solve this problem in the coming months (if I can catch a good moment for ride to the nearest big city) and support you.
You give a lot of creative energy to the community and make wonderful stuff. In a sense, it is very difficult to imagine community without your creativity, how much it permeates all. I hope many people will support you.

[Reisal]

Don't forget about SubscribeStar, if Patreon ever becomes non-viable!

[Maser]

Want money?  Get out and earn it and don't beg for it DSP style.  I been working blue collar jobs since I was 12 and would have to ditch school to work on farms. 

Edited May 13, 2019 by Maser

[SirJuicyLemon]

51 minutes ago, Maser said:

Want money?  Get out and earn it and don't beg for it DSP style.  I been working blue collar jobs since I was 12 and would have to ditch school to work or farms. 

I feel bad for you and your limited mind. Not to insult/offend you, but I don't see what anything you said has to do with this topic.

 

If you had to work since 12 then good (or bad) for you. But that was your reality, not his.

You don't have to be a long time forum member to realize that Jimmy is a well-known top contributor to this community, and he does AMAZING music tracks (if you don't care/believe, you should know that even John Romero praised the quality of his work).

 

Today there are many ways to work and earn income, being a content creator is one of those. And as long as people want his work and support him, he DOES earn it. If someone is interested in his work, but can't afford (or doesn't have the means) supporting him, then they share it so more people can appreciate his talent and maybe adquire other supporters. He is not begging. So you better learn the damn difference right now.

 

And last, but not least, if you don't have anything positive to say about it then just shut up and go look another topic on the forum. There's no need to brag that you had a harder life or anything like that because nobody cares. I'm sorry if I sound too harsh on this subject, but your comment isn't nice either.

 

So if you please, if you are not going to contribute to the cause, then just pass by this topic and don't say anything.

[Maser]

I contributed my piece.

[nrofl]

15 minutes ago, Maser said:

I contributed my piece.

What juicy is saying is that your piece is not helpful to Jimmy.

[incel]

53 minutes ago, SirJuicyLemon said:

So if you please, if you are not going to contribute to the cause, then just pass by this topic and don't say anything.

 

With this logic there should be no discussion ever, only "jawohl".

 

When mappers monetise their hobby it's always a touchy subject, just remember the great evilution debate or skyrim mods fiasko.

 

I think that patreon and other forms of donation are vaible options, but I always feel uneasy about it. Like with the musician playing for tip — this mixed feeling of pity and shame. I'm rather buy a record or a ticket and get a feeling of "pride and accomplishment".

[SirJuicyLemon]

1 minute ago, incel said:

 

With this logic there should be no discussion ever, only "jawohl".

 

When mappers monetise their hobby it's always a touchy subject, just remember the great evilution debate or skyrim mods fiasko.

 

I think that patreon and other forms of donation are vaible options, but I always feel uneasy about it. Like with the musician playing for tip — this mixed feeling of pity and shame. I'm rather buy a record or a ticket and get a feeling of "pride and accomplishment".

There should be discussion on topics where there should be discussion. Or at least, there's no need to create a discussion out of this topic (in particular).

 

If Jimmy post a topic about him launching his Patreon (or whatever content creator site), the best would be that people comment things related to that. Whether is an opinion about it, a suggestion, showing him support, etc. If you are going to enter the topic just to tell him that he is "begging" for money, what contribution are you making to the topic? That's a general discussion about Patreon and content creation sites. You could very well do the same creating your own discussion topic refering to Jimmy.

 

I know that Patreon and all those sites is a touchy subject. That's not the part that bothered me.

The part that bothered me is when he said that he was "begging" while the correct term is still "earning". Patreon (at least, Kofi I'm not sure) works with people paying in order to be suscribers and they get his own exclusive creations as rewards. I may not be an economist, but you can already tell that it follows the law of supply and demand, and if that doesn't represent how market works for Maser then I don't know in what world he lives in.

 

And the addition of complaining/bragging how was his life working compared to nowadays' ways to earn income just makes it worse. He, more than anybody, with his working experience, should know that no work is unworthy nor should be minimized. That's a total act of thoughtlessness and apathy knowing that creations like Jimmy's, with such great quality, take hard work to accomplish.

 

 

 

[⇛Marnetmar⇛]

2 hours ago, Maser said:

Want money?  Get out and earn it and don't beg for it DSP style.  I been working blue collar jobs since I was 12 and would have to ditch school to work on farms. 

 

God forbid a guy who makes stuff wants to get paid for his labor.

Edited May 13, 2019 by Marn

[Marcaek]

3 hours ago, Maser said:

Want money?  Get out and earn it and don't beg for it DSP style.  I been working blue collar jobs since I was 12 and would have to ditch school to work on farms. 

 

You didn't even bother reading the post before pulling yourself up by your bootstraps getting on your high horse, but I'll echo what marn said god forbid anyone give money to a guy who has contributed more free music to the doom community than probably anyone else

Edited May 13, 2019 by Marcaek

[Tristan]

1 hour ago, Maser said:

I contributed my piece.

 

"I have no idea what I'm talking about and therefore have no response when called out on my ignorance and apparent inability to  read the OP"

[nrofl]

1 hour ago, Rhebiz said:

What juicy is saying is that your piece is not helpful to Jimmy.

 

28 minutes ago, SirJuicyLemon said:

There should be discussion on topics where there should be discussion. Or at least, there's no need to create a discussion out of this topic (in particular).

 

If Jimmy post a topic about him launching his Patreon (or whatever content creator site), the best would be that people comment things related to that. Whether is an opinion about it, a suggestion, showing him support, etc. If you are going to enter the topic just to tell him that he is "begging" for money, what contribution are you making to the topic? That's a general discussion about Patreon and content creation sites. You could very well do the same creating your own discussion topic refering to Jimmy.

 

13 minutes ago, Marcaek said:

 

You didn't even bother reading the post before pulling yourself up by your bootstraps getting on your high horse, but I'll echo what marn said god forbid anyone give money to a guy who has contributed more free music to the doom community than probably anyone else

 

3 minutes ago, Eris Falling said:

 

"I have no idea what I'm talking about and therefore have no response when called out on my ignorance and apparent inability to  read the OP"

Reading your guy's responses is awesome.

[hella knight]

wew clickbaited us there a bit...

I mean best of luck, but a more appropriate title would be 'please support me' :p

i thought this was gonna be in response to some of the sentiment in the sigil thread and maybe somewhere to highlight doomers with patreons or whatever...

 

(also as someone else jobless I realised pretty quick I wasn't gonna find 'decent' employment lol settling for worse now. wishing better for you mate)

 

[Gaia74]

well.... going back to the topic

 

Nice you make a patreon jimmy!, i cant donate but i still support you

Edited May 13, 2019 by Gaia74

[Dark Pulse]

3 hours ago, Maser said:

Want money?  Get out and earn it and don't beg for it DSP style.  I been working blue collar jobs since I was 12 and would have to ditch school to work on farms. 

Good for you? Like that makes you better than him? Shall we go and have those kids working in sweatshops in Asia give you a stern talking-to because they began when they were 9? Maybe they'll even beat you up and steal the 0.8 cigarettes you probably have left.

 

There's a bit of a difference between "Do you like what I do? Then consider throwing me a few bucks" and "I'm a useless human being but give me money anyway." DSP and Jimmy aren't even in the same galaxy. Jimmy's done stuff people actually enjoy; DSP is just there to make you go "Wow, thank fucking god I'm not this loser."

 

And a few of his options don't even cost you money, just a few minutes of your time. (Or a few hours, if you tune into the streams versus just telling people about them).

 

In short...

 

1 hour ago, Maser said:

I contributed my piece.

...of shit.

[KVELLER]

I'm a student currently, so I don't really have money to throw your way or time to watch your streams, and I don't use Twitter or Facebook, but I'll send you some love and good vibes :3

[Jimmy]

@Maser Pro-tip: If you're trying to own someone online, maybe don't mention the fact that you skipped out on your education.

[Grazza]

1 hour ago, KVELLER said:

I'll send you some love and good vibes :3

That's all very well, but he needs something useful, like thoughts and prayers.

[how to delete account]

wew spicy

 

Heres an opinion noone asked for:

Spoiler

While supporting creators is always nice, i think hobbies should be self-funded, otherwise people are going to expect content you made for yourself, which can create some unrest once you decide to move on or do something else, or just kinda dissapear.

Tho patreon is great for careers.

 

I'll work for a can of cat food

[Edward850]

2 minutes ago, Pooh said:

While supporting creators is always nice, i think hobbies should be self-funded, otherwise people are going to expect content you made for yourself, which can create some unrest once you decide to move on or do something else, or just kinda dissapear.

These threads sure do bring weird galaxy-brain ideas out of the woodwork.

[how to delete account]

2 minutes ago, Edward850 said:

wood

 

Good argument, ill see myself out

[Sparktimus]

First John Romero wants a handout and now Jimmy?! How dare these content creators give people the option to support them for their contributions! You work hard to make free stuff for the community for years and years and now you ask people to pay you?! The nerve!

 

Seriously, though. This attitude around here lately that creators don't deserve compensation for any of the work that they do is pretty troubling, considering the Doom community is always creating and releasing stuff every single day without anyone ever asking for anything for it but feedback. Jimmy is by far one of biggest pillars in the history of this community. His body of work is fucking astounding. He helps anyone that asks him for it. He hosts many mapping collaborations that help people hone their skills. He's able to pump out quality stuff at quite an impressive pace and he's been doing this for over a decade. Him asking for any kind of support I believe is more than warranted and not something he needs to be given the 'bootstraps' treatment over. I know it's easy to just say "why don't you just get a job", but not everyone is going to have an easy time with that and not everybody will be afforded the same opportunities that others have been. It's not even that he's wanting to make this place his job either. He's been searching for one, as have I, for many months and come up with nothing. He's not some kind of freeloading NEET that expects people to just give him money for nothing. He's been the heart of this community for a while now and I see absolutely nothing wrong with him doing this.

 

There are many things that have been made for this game that I would honestly be more than happy to pay for if I had the funds and was given the chance. The creators in this community are some of the best on the planet, and I say that with all sincerity. The title of this thread isn't "Give money to your favorite content creators.". It's "Support your favorite content creators.". Whether that be a donation or just a simple Thank You for doing what you guys do.
 

I'm always short of cash myself, but I will offer this. Thank you, Jimmy. For all that you do.

[yakfak]

imo lots of people prefer to buy a tangible object to a "subscription" but they gotta keep in mind that those endeavours rarely actually make money what with the cash needed to start up and the supply chain you need to establish, plus the planet doesn't precisely have unlimited material to be turned into vanity items anyway. subs in certain ways are the more ethical option.

 

also Jimmy deserves yr money cos you all use his music :3

[Nine Inch Heels]

1 hour ago, whirledtsar said:

Didn't you say in OP that you've had serious struggle finding work? How helpful was that education then?

Are you so socially incompetent that you have nothing better to do than shitting up the thread of somebody who's already going through rough times? Do you really think you're accomplishing anything positive here, by doing this? Here's an idea: Fuck off!

[xvertigox]

10 minutes ago, yakfak said:

imo lots of people prefer to buy a tangible object to a "subscription" but they gotta keep in mind that those endeavours rarely actually make money what with the cash needed to start up and the supply chain you need to establish, plus the planet doesn't precisely have unlimited material to be turned into vanity items anyway. subs in certain ways are the more ethical option.

 

My feeling is if I'm supporting someone on Patreon/however whatever they release feels more 'premium' to me. I get a cozy satisfaction knowing that I helped support them in creating it. It's similar to pirating games and buying them. I can pirate GOG games easily but buying them just feels nice. Even though they play exactly the same I don't get that little hit of contentment knowing I've gotten it legally. It makes me appreciate it all the more.

[Jimmy]

Geez. A few people in this thread ain't getting a minute's worth of music out of me in the foreseeable future, that's for fucking sure.

[CyberDreams]

On 5/11/2019 at 8:18 AM, StormCatcher.77 said:

That nasty feeling ... when you get paid in cash and live in the middle of the taiga, without the possibility of somehow manipulating the means online ...

Sorry, at the moment I can not help, but I think I can solve this problem in the coming months (if I can catch a good moment for ride to the nearest big city) and support you.
You give a lot of creative energy to the community and make wonderful stuff. In a sense, it is very difficult to imagine community without your creativity, how much it permeates all. I hope many people will support you.

 

I'm pretty much in the same boat as you are as i usually have no way to buy things online or donate money due to not having a debit or credit card. The way my bank account was set up was really weird so i never did get my own. It was never changed either and now that i use my computer pretty much everyday, it really sucks not having one. I can usually only take out cash and since i don't drive and i'm not working either, i usually don't go to the bank. I have my parents do that for me due to my disability and they take care of the bills/food and what not with my money. Then if i have a little extra at the end of the month, then i can usually buy a few things.

 

This is one of the things i would donate to though, just a nice sincere person who's trying to make a living by doing something that he loves (which we all would love to do, let's be honest).

 

Ignore all of the haters Jimmy. I don't know you personally, but from your reputation within the community as well as the few interactions i've had with you on your Twitch streams, you seem like a great guy and i think i speak for most of the Doom community in saying that your musical talent (not to mention everything else you do) is very much appreciated. I hope you do end up making a great living by doing something that you love to do. I'll definitely be buying you a few cups of coffee when i get the chance ;) 

Edited May 14, 2019 by CyberDreams
adding more

[Dark Pulse]

2 hours ago, whirledtsar said:

Didn't you say in OP that you've had serious struggle finding work? How helpful was that education then?

I've got a college degree and I'm barely making $15k a year. So does the co-worker I've worked with every day almost for the last four or so years.

 

Sometimes even having a job doesn't save you from being tight on money.