Mr.S Retro Posted January 31, 2020 I just beat doom 1 for the very first time blind and I also added brutal doom v21 to the game for extra challenge. I beat it on HMP while playing on delta touch using gzdoom (BTW touch controls are not very easy to adjust to for a full keyboard player). I am now going to mourn the loss of daisy by uploading my blind playthrough of thy flesh consumed with brutal doom. 23 Quote Share this post Link to post
Super Mighty G Posted January 31, 2020 Not the way I would have played my first time, but that's irrelevant. Welcome to the Doom club. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post
Pablo_Doom_Guy Posted January 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Oppo1021 said: I just beat doom 1 for the very first time blind cool =) congratulations 2 hours ago, Oppo1021 said: I also added brutal doom v21 to the game for extra challenge. not cool at all , your first time playing doom and you already add a mod that ruins all doom mechanics ? Do you want an extra challenge , play it on UV-FAST or nightmare , do a pistol start run , no save run , keyboard only (no mouse) 2 hours ago, Oppo1021 said: I am now going to mourn the loss of daisy by uploading my blind playthrough of thy flesh consumed with brutal doom. Whats the point of a mod that turns the game into a modern generic fps with grenades, freeloock , jumping ,crouching , sniper weapons.... and that adds one of the most ridiculous ways of killing a demon ...."the glory kills" ..."thanks" to brutal doom they added glory kills to doom 2016 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
Super Mighty G Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Pablo_Doom_Guy said: not cool at all , your first time playing doom and you already add a mod that ruins all doom mechanics ? Do you want an extra challenge , play it on UV-FAST or nightmare , do a pistol start run , no save run , keyboard only (no mouse) Whats the point of a mod that turns the game into a modern generic fps with grenades, freeloock , jumping ,crouching , sniper weapons.... and that adds one of the most ridiculous ways of killing a demon ...."the glory kills" ..."thanks" to brutal doom they added glory kills to doom 2016 Real nice guys. You want to turn your gatekeeping down a few notches? 32 Quote Share this post Link to post
Taurus Daggerknight Posted January 31, 2020 What @Super Mighty G said. It continues to amaze me how in the Doom circles, one of the oldest modding communities in all of gaming, we keep seeing such elitist behavior and shunning of specific mods, just because it isn't ones personal definition of "good". If someone wants to play Doom with all Chex Quest skins, who the hell is anyone to get up in arms and bitch about how its not Doom? And if you're going to get huffy about people enjoying Brutal Doom specifically, well I guess that means you hate John Romero too, whose has gone on record saying he rather liked it/ was impressed with it. @Oppo1021 you are a braver man than I for having gone through the adventure with touch controls! I've been thinking of grabbing it for my phone for a while. Is it legit much fun, or just a challenge in your estimation? 12 Quote Share this post Link to post
Jayextee Posted January 31, 2020 Anyone who has recently discovered and loved one of my favourite games of all time, regardless of the platform or manner in which they experienced it, is in my eyes very welcome to the fold. 22 Quote Share this post Link to post
cambreaKer Posted January 31, 2020 congratulations mate, now try beating brutal doom 2 on UV for an extra challenge. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Fonze Posted January 31, 2020 I'd just like to note that it's always newer members that rush into threads like these just to bash brutal doom. The meme is dead folks just be happy new people are experiencing this game we all love. To OP: grats, and cool to see another Delta Touch player! Gl on future wads, have fun above all else, and welcome! 7 Quote Share this post Link to post
Lüt Posted January 31, 2020 It should go without saying that a site called Doomworld is where people are welcome to post their experiences with the game, whatever systems they may be playing on or mods they may be playing with. If you don't want to read such things, feel free to visit another forum instead. 12 Quote Share this post Link to post
P41R47 Posted January 31, 2020 Congratulation, @Oppo1021! Achieving that in a cell phone is quite a feat! Now you can try Doom 2 ;) Also, I love your profile picture. Just charming and funny! PD: don't be offended by those who said intolerant things. Keep playing and have all the fun you want! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
CrbnBased Posted January 31, 2020 More Souls for the harvest! Grats on beating Doom, glad there's another Delta Touch user! Don't listen to the nay sayers, Doom on all the things! 6 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mr.S Retro Posted January 31, 2020 Just to clear up some things. 1: I have been playing doom for 2 years now but I had never finished a doom game. 2: My first experience with doom was the GBA port. 3: My PC is so slow it cannot run zdoom or gzdoom at all. 4: yesterday was the first time I had played inferno. 5: That cyberdemon was HUGE. Anyways thanks for the support and I am glad to be part of the doom community. Doom 2 UV brutal v21 coming soon. 8 Quote Share this post Link to post
Taurus Daggerknight Posted January 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Oppo1021 said: 5: That cyberdemon was HUGE. Does that mean it had huge guts? 7 Quote Share this post Link to post
xvertigox Posted January 31, 2020 Gratz! Going from Doom 1 hmp to Doom 2 uv will be a jump in difficulty. Nail those headshots :) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
P41R47 Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Oppo1021 said: Just to clear up some things. 1: I have been playing doom for 2 years now but I had never finished a doom game. 2: My first experience with doom was the GBA port. 3: My PC is so slow it cannot run zdoom or gzdoom at all. 4: yesterday was the first time I had played inferno. 5: That cyberdemon was HUGE. Anyways thanks for the support and I am glad to be part of the doom community. Doom 2 UV brutal v21 coming soon. Oh, coming from the good old GBA! Nice! About the source port problem, check this out: On 1/27/2020 at 12:39 PM, P41R47 said: Doom Retro, my friend, vanilla experience enhanced a little to be more refined and whats best is that all the little changes made are toggleable in the config file to taste that vanilla flavor. It has a launcher that let you select iwads or pwads and it one of the sourceports that is constantly updated with new possibilities to make it even better. And for taking the first step into the modding community, here are a list of some excellent pwads that don't deviate much from the original Doom experience:Demonfear (load it with this MIDI pack for an amazing experience).Doom 2: The way Id DidDoom 2 Reloaded Icarus: Alien Vanguard Revolution! (with MIDI pack is even better) 2002: A Doom Odyssey (needs doom.wad) Crimson Canyon Congestion 1024 Wonderful Doom (needs doom.wad) Whispers of SatanReverieNo End in Sight (needs doom.wad) And when you tasted all of the vanilla flavor, just try this ones, as they are enhanced and meant for experienced players (hence, they are pretty hard, but are some of the best out there): Hell Revealed ETERNAL DooM Alien Vendetta ScytheVile FleshKama SutraPlutonia Revisited (needs Plutonia.WAD)Back to Saturn X EP.1TNT: Revilution (needs TNT.wad STRUGGLE: Antaresian Legacy Eviternity Also, if you don't know about this project, take a look at this megawads. Its an ongoing project to make some free IWADS for everyone:FreeDoom I & II & DM With Doom Retro you can play all of this from the get go. So don't waste more time searching around. Go and play! Rip and Tear! ;) Have fun my friend! Doom Retro runs in everything! But if you are hungry for more eye candy, well, you can try LZDoom, is a version of GZDoom repurposed for old PC or with not soo much graphical power. Edited January 31, 2020 by P41R47 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mr.S Retro Posted January 31, 2020 10 minutes ago, Taurus Daggerknight said: Does that mean it had huge guts? Yes I wasted 30 minutes of my life on that meme. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Pegleg Posted January 31, 2020 Congratulations @Oppo1021! I hope you enjoyed yourself during your run, because that's what matters, not the elitist gatekeeping (to borrow Super Mighty G's word) of people saying you should do X instead of Y. I'm actually somewhat surprised that no one commented on not beating on UV. Not that I care one way or another what difficulty you play on, but there are definitely members of the community that do. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
unerxai Posted January 31, 2020 Doom 1 HMP to Doom 2 UV is a big increase in difficulty. Well at least in Doom, don't know about BD. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Loud Silence Posted February 1, 2020 Playing Brutal Doom does not count as playing Doom. Both are very different from each other. I have played Brutal Doom a little and i can say it's very far from real, original Doom. However it's your choice how to play. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post
jazzmaster9 Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Pablo_Doom_Guy said: cool =) congratulations not cool at all , your first time playing doom and you already add a mod that ruins all doom mechanics ? Do you want an extra challenge , play it on UV-FAST or nightmare , do a pistol start run , no save run , keyboard only (no mouse) Whats the point of a mod that turns the game into a modern generic fps with grenades, freeloock , jumping ,crouching , sniper weapons.... and that adds one of the most ridiculous ways of killing a demon ...."the glory kills" ..."thanks" to brutal doom they added glory kills to doom 2016 Let me guess, you've been a fan (as in, claim to be a fan but is actually a millenial or gen Z) since 90s? Nice gatekeeping Edited February 1, 2020 by jazzmaster9 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
mrthejoshmon Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) If you liked playing through in Brutal Doom then I'd say it would be worth a shot replaying it with Project Brutality to mix it up a little and not just add more challenge but even more additions like weapons and enemy behavior to the experience. If that experience runs dry then I'd suggest something entirely different like this mod https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=24974 Which replaces and randomizes enemies, weapons and items for an endlessly unique experience (doesn't work alongside Brutal Doom However), if you're looking to get real crazy you can also have Oblige (link http://oblige.sourceforge.net ) generate a random mapset too! Have fun. Edited February 1, 2020 by mrthejoshmon 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mr.S Retro Posted February 1, 2020 49 minutes ago, Loud Silence said: Playing Brutal Doom does not count as playing Doom. Both are very different from each other. I have played Brutal Doom a little and i can say it's very far from real, original Doom. However it's your choice how to play. I have played vanilla doom through Knee deep in the dead and the shores of hell and I can say that I like both equally. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mr.S Retro Posted February 1, 2020 53 minutes ago, mrthejoshmon said: If you liked playing through in Brutal Doom then I'd say it would be worth a shot replaying it with Project Brutality to mix it up a little and not just add more challenge but even more additions like weapons and enemy behavior to the experience. If that experience runs dry then I'd suggest something entirely different like this mod https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=24974 Which replaces and randomizes enemies, weapons and items for an endlessly unique experience (doesn't work alongside Brutal Doom However), if you're looking to get real crazy you can also have Oblige (link http://oblige.sourceforge.net ) generate a random mapset too! Have fun. Thank you for the suggestions. I have tried to play project brutality but on the second map of and doom wad I play including the iwads it drops to 2fps. As for oblige I use it occasionally and I very much like the maps it makes. 667 shuffle is very much a fun mod for wads like maps of chaos and oblige. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mayomancer Posted February 1, 2020 Hey, glad you liked it. There's tons of content for all tastes in the community so keep and eye out and delve for the old and new stuff you might like! Checking the cacowards may be a good start 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Pablo_Doom_Guy Posted February 1, 2020 8 hours ago, Super Mighty G said: Real nice guys. You want to turn your gatekeeping down a few notches? i cant reply to a PUBLIC comment on a public forum giving MY opinion on OPs comment because i'm a "gatekeeper" but you can tell me what to say ? ... mmm seems fair i guess....(not) 3 hours ago, jazzmaster9 said: Let me guess, you've been a fan (as in, claim to be a fan but is actually a millenial or gen Z) since 90s? Nice gatekeeping well considering the game was released on the 90's....then yes , and considering i was born in 1987 and started playing doom at one of my friends house in 1996 and then on my on pc in 1997 then yes again , and last but not least considering that millenial are the ones born between 1981 and 1999 or 2000 , then there goes another yes to your question , too bad that i'm not an older guy , but i was not given the chance when to born . So seriously , i've only replied to op's comment , didn't insult him , say anything wrong about him , just a comment and i have 2 people that are trying to tell me what shuold i say but gets offended if i make a comment about someone's way of playing doom ??? O_o i thought this was a community were someone could throw their opinions (as long as they are respectful of course) without being censored ...im starting to guess that i was wrong , hopefully i'm not 6 Quote Share this post Link to post
jazzmaster9 Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Pablo_Doom_Guy said: well considering the game was released on the 90's....then yes , and considering i was born in 1987 and started playing doom at one of my friends house in 1996 and then on my on pc in 1997 then yes again , and last but not least considering that millenial are the ones born between 1981 and 1999 or 2000 , then there goes another yes to your question , too bad that i'm not an older guy , but i was not given the chance when to born . Good for you. Still doesnt excuse being a gatekeeper pushing the ""right"", way to play Doom. Sorry to tell you but modding is just as part of Doom's DNA as the IWADs based content themeselves. You're not being censored, we are doing the same thing you are buddy. Giving opinions. Edited February 1, 2020 by jazzmaster9 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
ReaperAA Posted February 1, 2020 6 hours ago, Oppo1021 said: My PC is so slow it cannot run zdoom or gzdoom at all. Well l got good news for you. There are many other source ports available that are much less demanding. Apart from zdoom family port, there are other really good ports such as PrBoom+, Eternity Engine and Crispy Doom. They are much less demanding and can even run on ancient 2005-ish hardware. Even within the zdoom family ports, there are ports that support ancient hardware such as Zdoom LE and Zandronum. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mr.S Retro Posted February 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, ReaperAA said: Well l got good news for you. There are many other source ports available that are much less demanding. Apart from zdoom family port, there are other really good ports such as PrBoom+, Eternity Engine and Crispy Doom. They are much less demanding and can even run on ancient 2005-ish hardware. Even within the zdoom family ports, there are ports that support ancient hardware such as Zdoom LE and Zandronum. I am trying to make a project that adds a weapon upgrade tree. Can zandronum use DECORATE? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
ReaperAA Posted February 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Oppo1021 said: I am trying to make a project that adds a weapon upgrade tree. Can zandronum use DECORATE? Yes. Zandronum supports DECORATE (heck even Brutal Doom is made to run with Zandronum). Though there might be a few DECORATE features that zdoom/gzdoom have that Zandronum may not have. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
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