Is there a good program to run Doom64 on PC?

[muizz]

I use Chocolate Doom to play my WADs (official only so far, I have yet to finish an entire game) and I've been trying to get Doom64 running on it, it doesn't. Doom EX was my next option and it doesn't handle mouse input properly at all. For some reason, the aim looks for the position of the mouse instead of taking the relative position of the mouse to determine where I am facing, so when the mouse re-centers (as they do in all FPSs) the aim re-centers too and I end up always facing the initial direction.

 

So, is there a way to get this game running properly on PC?

[Deleted_Account]

There is a patch that fixes the mouse problem, you can grab it from the Doom64 Ex website.

[muizz]

Oh that's what it was, thanks.

[Edward850]

25 minutes ago, muizz said:

So, is there a way to get this game running properly on PC?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1148590/DOOM_64/

[Nevander]

Doom 64 EX is your best option right now. Depending on your PC, it could stay your best option.

 

I can't help but notice that the system requirements for Doom 64 on Steam are pretty high for this version (and Windows 10 and Vulkan only?).

Edited March 16, 2020 by Nevander

[seed]

20 minutes ago, Nevander said:

I can't help but notice that the system requirements for Doom 64 on Steam are pretty high for this version (and Windows 10 and Vulkan only?).

 

The requirements are overestimated according to Edward & co. - I sure got triggered the first time I saw them, so much so that I stayed depressed for 2 whole days lmao.

 

Not sure about the OS, but a GTX 650 should be mighty fine to run the game, and not the advertised 780 - Kaiser supposedly tests stuff on one, so... It's also not Vulkan only, as it was revealed in a stream a while ago. It also comes with a DX11 and GL 3.2 render similar to Blood: FS - though the GL render is reportedly pushed to its limits.

 

BTW, I hope it will not have any silly bugs at launch - I'm looking at you black screen when switching renders that does not fix by itself...

Edited March 16, 2020 by seed

[Nevander]

How would an R9 270X run it?

Edited March 16, 2020 by Nevander

[seed]

11 minutes ago, Nevander said:

How would an R9 270X run it?

 

Should be more than fine, I just googled its specs - https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-r9-270x.c2466

 

I see it has DX12 support (11_1 feature level), GL 4.6, and Vulkan 1.2.131. I'm skeptical about the GL part since AMD's GL support in drivers is horseshit, but it should be mighty fine in DX11 and especially Vulkan. Considering the raw power, this would be somewhere between a GTX 960-970 I think - and definitely more than the 950 I use.

Edited March 16, 2020 by seed

[Edward850]

3 hours ago, seed said:

Not sure about the OS

Windows 10 is the minimum officially supported OS, but it will run on 7 and 8 (not Vista or XP 64bit Edition though if you are still somehow on them). We found that 7 and 8 are starting to get driver compatability issues due to manufacturers dropping support, notably in one instance Vulkan was producing a black screen and no indication internally that there is even a problem. 

This essentially puts them in the category of it working but barely and incidentally.

Edited March 16, 2020 by Edward850

[seed]

4 minutes ago, Edward850 said:

Windows 10 is the minimum officially supported OS, but it will run on 7 and 8 (not Vista or XP 64bit Edition though if you are still somehow on them). We found that 7 and 8 are starting to get driver compatability issues due to manufacturers dropping support, notably in one instance Vulkan was producing a black screen and no indication internally that there is even a problem. 

This essentially puts them in the category of it working but barely and incidentally.

 

So basically, more like 10 and 8.1 if the original 8 and 7 are being dropped.

 

I'm a bit surprised the manufacturers are so quick to dump 7 already, I mean it reached EOL status only 2 months ago. But can't say I blame them, unsupported means unsupported as far as I'm concerned as well.

Edited March 16, 2020 by seed

[Edward850]

48 minutes ago, seed said:

So basically, more like 10 and 8.1 if the original 8 and 7 are being dropped.

8 and 8.1 are the same (as far as I know) in this explanation. 

Edited March 16, 2020 by Edward850

[seed]

4 minutes ago, Edward850 said:

8 and 8.1 are the same in this explication. 

 

Peculiar.

 

I did not expect to see this. 8.1 still has 3 more years to live on paper (til Jan 2023), but manufacturers are already moving away from it. Hm. Taking into consideration that 8/8.1 is kind of the odd one, perhaps it isn't as surprising as it might look at first glance (I mean, it had a rough start, which prompted people to either wait for 10 to upgrade to it instead, or stay on 7 - or move to Linux of course - so seeing it getting dumped already... ).

Edited March 16, 2020 by seed

[BBQgiraffe]

22 hours ago, Edward850 said:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1148590/DOOM_64/

my GPU is incapable of running Doom 64...

[Edward850]

20 minutes ago, BBQgiraffe said:

my GPU is incapable of running Doom 64...

What is your GPU?

[BBQgiraffe]

35 minutes ago, Edward850 said:

What is your GPU?

GT 640 lol, I was using the APU that was built into my ryzen 3 but for some reason it just crashes when I try to install drivers for it now so I'm stuck with it

[Edward850]

1 hour ago, BBQgiraffe said:

GT 640 lol, I was using the APU that was built into my ryzen 3 but for some reason it just crashes when I try to install drivers for it now so I'm stuck with it

A GT 640 should work, it still has driver support on 10 (latest driver was released March 10, 2020) and has Vulkan 1.2 (as well as OpenGL3.2 and DX11 compat). Performance will present some questions, but I can't imagine it being unplayable. Heck if you play around with the console a bit you could re-enable dynamic resolution scaling (we use it on the Switch) to help keep the framerate stable if necessary. Or maybe just turn off filtering.

Edited March 16, 2020 by Edward850

[Boaby Kenobi]

On 3/15/2020 at 8:40 PM, muizz said:

is there a way to get this game running properly on PC?

 

I use the Project 64 emulator and the game runs nicely. I run the game on a laptop that has pretty poor graphical capability.

 

[Redneckerz]

16 hours ago, BBQgiraffe said:

GT 640 lol, I was using the APU that was built into my ryzen 3 but for some reason it just crashes when I try to install drivers for it now so I'm stuck with it

Doom 64's system specs are deliberately made with margin in mind - It does not mean the game becomes downright unplayable if you do not meet the par.

[zayJax]

DOOM 64 EX is almost perfect, if you want the steam version, then yeah go for it.

You just need to read the instructions and have a rom of the original game.

https://doom64ex.wordpress.com/downloads/

[Brian Reilly jr.]

Pretty much default to Doom 64 EX or Retribution if you want to remain accurate enough. I mainly play with GZDoom since it's the only source port that is compatible with D64RTR 1.4a and 1.5 and I think it's nice and reliable

[DemilinX]

On 3/16/2020 at 1:38 PM, BBQgiraffe said:

GT 640 lol, I was using the APU that was built into my ryzen 3 but for some reason it just crashes when I try to install drivers for it now so I'm stuck with it

I was having this happen with my AMD R9 380. It turns out Norton Security Online was interrupting installation of the drivers. After setting the firewall and system protection off (with a time limit of <1 hour), I was finally able to update the AMD graphic drivers. Make sure the virus protection and other malware are disabled while updating graphic drivers. Exit out of other services too of course to limit incoming data and threats.

[BBQgiraffe]

22 minutes ago, DemilinX said:

I was having this happen with my AMD R9 380. It turns out Norton Security Online was interrupting installation of the drivers. After setting the firewall and system protection off (with a time limit of <1 hour), I was finally able to update the AMD graphic drivers. Make sure the virus protection and other malware are disabled while updating graphic drivers. Exit out of other services too of course to limit incoming data and threats.

no it like full on corrupts my windows 10 install even if its fresh, no antivirus

[seed]

3 hours ago, BBQgiraffe said:

windows 10

 

3 hours ago, BBQgiraffe said:

no antivirus

 

Unless you're disabling Windows Security (formerly Defender), this is not correct.

[VGA]

On 3/15/2020 at 10:40 PM, muizz said:

I use Chocolate Doom to play my WADs (official only so far, I have yet to finish an entire game) and I've been trying to get Doom64 running on it, it doesn't. Doom EX was my next option and it doesn't handle mouse input properly at all. For some reason, the aim looks for the position of the mouse instead of taking the relative position of the mouse to determine where I am facing, so when the mouse re-centers (as they do in all FPSs) the aim re-centers too and I end up always facing the initial direction.

 

So, is there a way to get this game running properly on PC?

The game was re-released on the PC TODAY! Buy it on Steam for 5 dollars/euros!

[Senor500]

You think I could run the new port?

Windows 8.1

I have an Intel HD, for some reason doesn't specify which but it supports Vulkan.

[BBQgiraffe]

1 hour ago, seed said:

 

 

Unless you're disabling Windows Security (formerly Defender), this is not correct.

I always disable it

[taufan99]

24 minutes ago, Senor500 said:

You think I could run the new port?

Looks like enough. Others have inferior specs compared to the one you have, but also reported having no trouble running it.

[Boaby Kenobi]

37 minutes ago, Senor500 said:

You think I could run the new port?

Windows 8.1

I have an Intel HD, for some reason doesn't specify which but it supports Vulkan.

 

Right click your desktop, select screen resolution, then select the advanced settings link and it should tell you how much video memory you have. Don't know if this works on Windows 8 though as I've never used that OS. I'm playing the game on a computer that, quite frankly, shouldn't be able to run the game at all but it does, albeit at a low resolution with no AA but it still runs better than D64EX on this particular system.

[Edward850]

1 hour ago, Senor500 said:

You think I could run the new port?

Windows 8.1

I have an Intel HD, for some reason doesn't specify which but it supports Vulkan.

It should run as long as the GPU/driver supports it properly. With the Intel HDs and how quickly they depreciate it's never quite obvious though.

[Senor500]

Thank you guys, I can run EX no problem so if Boaby's system can run this one better then I guess I'm fine.

I shouldn't have been this concerned, I forgot refunds were a thing.