Who is "David Shanbell"?

[Doomkid]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_(1993_video_game)

 

Under designers, a person named "David Shanbell" is listed. Maybe I just wasn't paying attention, but I have never heard this name. Cane anyone elaborate on this? I see no results on the Doomwiki.

[SiFi270]

It's an alias for the Dimensional Shambler they hired to wait at the DOS prompt in case anyone thought about quitting.

[fufu]

Well this is weird, i searched the name on mobygames to see if that person maybe worked on other ID game and i didn't found nobody with that surname, the closest thing i found was a dude called David Spell who worked as a sound designer on a quake 2 mod.

 

i guess this is going to turn into a creepypasta or something.

 

[ptoing]

Easiest way to find out is write an email to Romero, he is generally really good about answering any questions. I sent him 2 emails before and he answered quite fast each time.

 

I guess this is probably just some kinda fuckup or wrong info, because, well, Wikipedia ain't perfect.

Found this doing a quick Google search, but again, this might be some weird typo or error that happened for whatever reason.
https://books.google.de/books?id=olbPDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA214&lpg=PA214&dq=david+shanbell+doom&source=bl&ots=-pyybj24M2&sig=ACfU3U39fgxT_GGv2w4As0TIaxBUP3bkNQ&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjn_-nTpbjoAhXF-aQKHWygD60Q6AEwCHoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=david shanbell doom&f=false

 

Edited March 26, 2020 by ptoing

[Revenant100]

The name was added in this edit by this user, obviously a very reputable editor and/or hack fraud.

 

Maybe this Shanbell guy knows who Mike Dopud is, a name which took nearly eight years for someone to notice!

[ptoing]

I sent John Romero an email. Just gotta wait now.

 

Got email back from John:
 

Quote

Hello,

 

There was no such person named David Shanbell at our company, ever. Someone put this fictional person’s name on Wikipedia and it should be removed from Doom’s entry.

 

Cheers,

 

John

 

Edited March 26, 2020 by ptoing

[ptoing]

Bump because we got an answer now. I guess someone with a Wikipedia account can edit it.

[doomsucksass]

But then...it turned out...David Shanbell was Doomguy all along!!!

Edited March 26, 2020 by doomsucksass

[Doomkid]

Wonderful work fellas. I knew that name sounded fishy.

[Maximum Matt]

18 hours ago, ptoing said:

I sent John Romero an email. Just gotta wait now.

 

Got email back from John:

Awesome. Dude doesn't fuck around.

[ptoing]

1 hour ago, Maximum Matt said:

Awesome. Dude doesn't fuck around. 

 

Yeah, Romero is really good with answering stuff fast. I guess atm he might be a bit quicker even, because of the whole Corona stay inside situation.

[Deleted_Account]

It's probably just Tim Willits messing with the Wikipedia.

[Morpheus666]

Or could possibly be the name of the dude who ID hired to pose for the Iconic Main artwork photo, Because i remember that they did hire a actor for it but John Romero stepped in because he couldn't do what John thought was appropriate for the pic

[Bauul]

18 hours ago, ptoing said:

Bump because we got an answer now. I guess someone with a Wikipedia account can edit it.

 

Pretty sure you don't need a Wikipedia account to edit most Wikipedia pages. Indeed the person who made this very edit didn't have an account. 

[Morpheus666]

4 minutes ago, Bauul said:

 

Pretty sure you don't need a Wikipedia account to edit most Wikipedia pages.

 

No i believe they scrapped this a while back for this exact reason

[ptoing]

8 minutes ago, Morpheus666 said:

Or could possibly be the name of the dude who ID hired to pose for the Iconic Main artwork photo, Because i remember that they did hire a actor for it but John Romero stepped in because he couldn't do what John thought was appropriate for the pic

 

Why would he be listed under design though. And again, John wrote me that no one under that name worked at id ever. I think it is from that book I linked on google books. Just someone messing up there and then someone else finding that and putting it on wikipedia.

[TheNoob_Gamer]

5 minutes ago, Bauul said:

 

Pretty sure you don't need a Wikipedia account to edit most Wikipedia pages. Indeed the person who made this very edit didn't have an account. 

You don't need an account, sure, but you are forced to reveal your IP. I'll say that faking your IP is more complicated than just registering and edit.

[Morpheus666]

6 minutes ago, ptoing said:

 

Why would he be listed under design though. And again, John wrote me that no one under that name worked at id ever. I think it is from that book I linked on google books. Just someone messing up there and then someone else finding that and putting it on wikipedia.

 

No idea, But i have read the book and it does infact credit him as one of the Designers, HOWEVER if we take a look at the Doom 1 game's credits:

(He is literally no where to be found)

 

So this could be 2 possible things:

1. Some dickhead put himself as a credit because they think it's funny

2. There was a person who did work at ID for a very brief moment and either was fired or left. (and John's memory is wrong)

 

I personally think #1 is more likely

Edited March 27, 2020 by Morpheus666

[Bauul]

12 minutes ago, Morpheus666 said:

 

No i believe they scrapped this a while back for this exact reason

 

I just tested it by correcting some grammar on a random Wikipedia page, and you don't need to log in. But as The_NoobGamer points out, revealing your IP is probably worse than having to sign up for free.

Edited March 27, 2020 by Bauul

[Morpheus666]

@Bauul and if you are editing something major it's constantly being monitored by the Wiki Staff to make sure it's "Accurate" or as accurate as a Wikipedia page can be.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars#Images

 

Enjoy Wikipedia's long and ignorant history on Edits to pages

Edited March 27, 2020 by Morpheus666

[Good-Old]

10 minutes ago, TheNoob_Gamer said:

You don't need an account, sure, but you are forced to reveal your IP. I'll say that faking your IP is more complicated than just registering and edit.

Use a VPN while editing it?

[Diabolución]

8 minutes ago, ptoing said:

Just someone messing up there and then someone else finding that and putting it on wikipedia.

 

Most likely, the cause-effect relationship is the opposite: the editors of that book, released on this year, included that bogus info extracted from that article.

[TheNoob_Gamer]

2 minutes ago, Good-Old said:

Use a VPN while editing it?

Yeah, that's why I said

3 minutes ago, Good-Old said:

faking your IP is more complicated than just registering and edit.

 

[Good-Old]

So enter the fake ip of the vpn while editing it.

Should be okay?

Edit: I went to the page, Ctrl+F David Shanbell and didn't find it. Somebody's edited it and removed his name, the job's done.

Edited March 27, 2020 by Good-Old

[TheNoob_Gamer]

@Good-Old of course it's okay, lol. I'm just saying that the method is more complicated and risky (vpns aren't all trustworthy imho)

Anyway let's not derail this thread further, the original topic has been answered.

[ptoing]

8 minutes ago, Diabolución said:

 

Most likely, the cause-effect relationship is the opposite: the editors of that book, released on this year, included that bogus info extracted from that article. 

 

Ah, did not look at the release date of the book. Yeah that sounds about right.

[Lila Feuer]

Pretty funny, I was wondering who tf this was too.

[Gokuma]

It seems a photo of this David Shanbell has surfaced.

Edited March 27, 2020 by Gokuma

[Gokuma]

Edited March 27, 2020 by Gokuma

[cybdmn]

On 3/27/2020 at 3:14 PM, Morpheus666 said:

Or could possibly be the name of the dude who ID hired to pose for the Iconic Main artwork photo

 

 

No, that was Tim Willits too.