Why don't major Youtube channels and gaming magazines have enough balls to rate Doom Eternal with the highest score?

[DuckReconMajor]

I can't stop imagining Stallone grabbing the arm of an editor about to hit 'Send' on their review.

 

"10 outta 10? You don't have the balls..."

[Super Mighty G]

It is baffling to me that anyone could get lost in this game. 

[Thorogrimm]

As of this time, I haven't properly finished the game yet since my PC is terrible when running it in certain areas. But I'd give it an 8. It's fun as fuck and I love the groove you can get into when you've learned the flow of gameplay and resource management, it makes you feel like a chad; smart and poweful. It's not perfect and obviously has a difficulty curve that most players are going to have to get passed, one point or another. The same can't be said for some journalists or YouTubers who are expecting a cake-walk or "run 'n' gun" with the SSG, blasting most enemies away without a care, they don't seem to be willing to learn. Or even lower the difficulty (there's no shame in that if you just want to enjoy the game).

Most of the things people are complaining about though, I unironically enjoy. Scaling a skyscraper by digging your meaty slayer fingers into the walls is fun and I enjoy the stimulation you get from doing so. It's fun :)

The ammo management is a no-brainer if you've gathered any amount of experience from being in arena battles or boss fights: THERE'S AT LEAST TWO ZOMBIES YOU CAN CHAINSAW FOR AMMO!

My main gripe would be the fact that they left out what would have been the pistol. If anyone here hasn't seen it, please tell me you don't agree that that thing looks sick and would have been great for staggering smaller enemies if you're out of ammo for the shotgun or low on health.

Edited March 27, 2020 by Thorogrimm

[NoXion]

2 hours ago, Super Mighty G said:

It is baffling to me that anyone could get lost in this game. 

It happened to me. Didn't detract from my enjoyment of the game, because it seems to happen in damn near every game that isn't on rails, but there was one bit in the Cultist Base where I had to look up a video to see where to go next.

Whatever wavelength it is that the vast majority of map makers and level editors are on, I'm on a totally different one for some reason.

[Taurus Daggerknight]

2 hours ago, Super Mighty G said:

It is baffling to me that anyone could get lost in this game. 

 

I got 'lost' in exactly one place; the Cultist Base where you have to knock over the big crucified demon. Mostly on account of the fact that I was still getting the hang of the platforming, and hadn't understood proper distance management for the air dash. Funny thing...I found the secret/ slayer gate key there before I figured out where to go. 

[MrHofmann]

13 hours ago, GoatLord said:

"Why doesn't everyone exactly agree with me?"

 

11 hours ago, Mr. Freeze said:

"Why doesn't everyone have my opinions?"
 

 

6 hours ago, Super Mighty G said:

Why don't all reviewers think the way I do? That sounds like a question a Khan Makyr would ask. 

 

This:

 

14 hours ago, Hofmann said:

I'm not asking every Eternal review should be a 10, but at least there should be more 10s this time around.

 

is not what you seem to be trying to make it look like. It is more like "Why don't more people agree with my score?". Kinda hilarious how many people are liking these misinterpretations of my post.

Edited March 28, 2020 by Hofmann

[MrHofmann]

9 hours ago, Redneckerz said:

Because its not a perfect game.

 

Protip: The perfect game does not exist.

 

Are you implying that no game can get a score of 10? Also I pretty much made it clear I am aware that a perfect game does not exist. See:
 

14 hours ago, Hofmann said:

I understand that there is no perfect game.

 

9 hours ago, Redneckerz said:

 

Why? Do you need additional confirmation from other reviewers to support your belief that Eternal is a good game in its own right?

 

No. I was only expecting different statistical outcome, so I asked people here what they think why is it not the way I expected.

 

9 hours ago, Redneckerz said:

Its almost like reviewers have a subjective perspective of things and thus what one considers a minus, the other may not, thus the flaws are also different each time.

 

You then go off on a tangent how most subjective reviewer opinions are total bullshit but all i get from that is that you do not seem to understand that reviews are subjective in the first place.

 

The point I was trying to make is that if people can't agree on what the flaw is then there is no "objective" flaw

 

9 hours ago, Redneckerz said:

 

 

People are afraid of people like Hofmann who are going to call them out no matter what grade they are giving the game because its never the right one.

Giving 10s to Eternal just because you feel there are too little 10's is equally lame for all the points described above.

 

That is not the point of my post. Sorry if you felt like I'm calling you out.

[Redneckerz]

8 hours ago, Hofmann said:

 

Are you implying that no game can get a score of 10?

Yes.

8 hours ago, Hofmann said:

Also I pretty much made it clear I am aware that a perfect game does not exist. See:

So therefore there is no need to desire more 10's.

 

8 hours ago, Hofmann said:

No. I was only expecting different statistical outcome, so I asked people here what they think why is it not the way I expected.

Regarding the bolded: Why?

 

8 hours ago, Hofmann said:

The point I was trying to make is that if people can't agree on what the flaw is then there is no "objective" flaw

A common consensus (As in, a flaw that the majority of the people have noticed) is the platforming. You could say by that notion that this is an objective flaw.

 

8 hours ago, Hofmann said:

This:

Why should there be more 10's?

8 hours ago, Hofmann said:

Kinda hilarious how many people are liking these misinterpretations of my post.

If what you mean't to say is "Why don't more people agree with my score?". then that references your question in the OP why reviewers don't go for more 10's.

 

So again, why should there be more 10's on Eternal? Its not a perfect game by any stretch of the margin.

[MrHofmann]

2 hours ago, Redneckerz said:

Yes.

 

OK.

[Redneckerz]

29 minutes ago, Hofmann said:

 

OK.

Its not really in good faith to ignore everything of my post and then just say ''Ok'' to the question if no game can get a perfect score.

 

Subjectively, ofcourse you can give games perfect scores. That depends by the reviewer. That's not the point i am making.

 

By common consensus, some of which is found on this very forum, its clear that there are some issues with Eternal that are generally shared with most people.

 

So:

Why should there be more 10's?

[TheRedTide]

I would rate it a solid 9/10. I discounted 1 point from it due to not having Snapmap, proper conventional multiplayer and the Marauders, ah yes, and the platforming as well. 2016's release had much better platforming.

[AtimZarr1]

4 hours ago, TheRedTide said:

I discounted 1 point from it due to not having Snapmap

 

It's a shame there are no content creation tools for Doom Eternal. Would've been fantastic.

[dewmguy]

I only miss 2016's aesthetics.

Platforming is awesome but I would have preferred death from falling off

Classic dooms and D64 had harder platforming IMO.

And getting lost in classic dooms happened more often

It's a solid 9 but i'll give it a 10 because no other shooter comes even close

[D88M3R]

Hmmm i dont believe in hyperbolic reviews that say that something is awesome and has no flaws be it movies or games, usually they come from people who in some way or another are shills. There are very few games that are a 9 or a 10, Silent Hill 2 and Shadow of the Colossus are some of those.
That does not mean they are perfect. 

If i had to rate Doom 2016/Eternal it would be a 7 out of 10 based on a first run. I played Doom 2016 twice and i liked it less the second time.

 

I could make a list with pros and cons of the game, but i dont want to make a thread for it and i dont want people believing that i am trolling or something like that, but the thread could only bring discussions and i dont want that, i want arguments because i dont see how people would think and say that D16/Eternal are near perfect games, that sounds insane to me.

[Super Mighty G]

3 minutes ago, D88M3R said:

I could make a list with pros and cons of the game, but i dont want to make a thread for it and i dont want people believing that i am trolling or something like that, but the thread could only bring discussions and i dont want that, i want arguments because i dont see how people would think and say that D16/Eternal are near perfect games, that sounds insane to me.

 

Something around here sure does sound insane. 

[D88M3R]

5 minutes ago, Super Mighty G said:

 

Something around here sure does sound insane. 

Hey, i am sincerely happy for the people who enjoyed the game and love it, i liked some stuff about it and when everything clicks is a pretty fun and intense experience, but i dont think they are taking the best approach with the franchise and some ideas are just dumb, like the "story". But money talks.

Edited March 29, 2020 by D88M3R

[dewmguy]

5 hours ago, D88M3R said:

i want arguments because i dont see how people would think and say that D16/Eternal are near perfect games, that sounds insane to me.

shit attitude and stupid nitpicks don't count as arguments that could help improve the games

2016's flaws were extensively talked upon even after it was a success and a very different approach than modern shooters.

Yet when you talk of your idealistic approches towards the game such as removing arena combat and story and reject whatever the devs are trying to achieve,

that's just half uneducated and half stupid opinions.

 

We have platforming because people hated 2016's corridors 

We've got focus on pacing and arena features being improved upon by throwing away realism for launch pads and swinging poles in a destroyed cityscape

We have story because a part of the community dived deep into it

You may not be that part of the fanbase but you can't just deny what a good number of people want

Yet you call the devs lazy and those of us arguing in favour shills or whatever

 

6 hours ago, D88M3R said:

Hmmm i dont believe in hyperbolic reviews that say that something is awesome and has no flaws be it movies or games, usually they come from people who in some way or another are shills. There are very few games that are a 9 or a 10, Silent Hill 2 and Shadow of the Colossus are some of those.
 That does not mean they are perfect. 

 

Never said that it can't be improved upon. But everything is relative and of all the shooter's i've seen this is one of the best so 9 works for me.

[MrHofmann]

Here's a ballsy review!