Having Problems with GzDoom Sound...

[Genesis6763]

I have been playing Doom with the GzDoom source port for a couple weeks now. Everything seemed to work fine until I noticed the sound seemed off. It seems its in this surround sound setting. I'm using stereo headphones and whenever a monster is right behind me, it sounds very distant. I would really appreciate some help with this. I couldn't find anything in the sound settings. As far as I know, I'm using the latest version of the game. Thanks.

Edit: 20 hours later and nothing.

Edited July 8, 2020 by Genesis6763

[Dark Pulse]

GZDoom shouldn't use anything more than stereo IIRC, so it sounds like it might be a sound driver/sound card issue.

 

Have you tried looking in there to make sure your headphones aren't setting up some virtual surround sound crap without you being aware of it?

[Genesis6763]

My headphones (Logitech G432) shouldn't be setting up any virtual surround sound as I keep them permanently in stereo. GZDoom is the only source port I use that has this problem. It could be a sound driver/card thing, I don't know why though. Thanks for the response and willingness to help. I can screenshot my sound settings in GZDoom if this will help? 

[plums]

Could be HRTF? Options -> Sound Options -> Advanced Options -> HRTF, set it to off.

 

You could also try disabling hardware acceleration on your soundcard, just to see if that's what the problem is.

 

If you want to post your settings, find your gzdoom.ini file (should be in the same directory as your exe I think?) and post it to https://pastebin.com/ or the like.

[Genesis6763]

Turning HRTF off unfortunately did nothing for me. The worst thing about my problem is that when a trap opens behind me, I usually don't notice it because the monster alert signal seems so distant. It's game breaking.  If I post my settings there, how will you be able to see them? 

[plums]

18 minutes ago, Genesis6763 said:

If I post my settings there, how will you be able to see them? 

When you post there, it will give you a link that you can post here.

 

You could also probably just post your settings in this thread, put them in between spoiler tags though please.

[Genesis6763]

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Edited July 9, 2020 by Genesis6763

[plums]

Uh yeah you want to open that file in notepad or whatever, and copy its contents and then paste them here...

Edited July 9, 2020 by plums

[Genesis6763]

Is that good?

 

[plums]

21 minutes ago, Genesis6763 said:

Is that good?

 

Yeah that's what's needed. I don't see anything out of the ordinary at a glance, maybe someone else will be able to see the problem...

[Dark Pulse]

It definitely sounds like it's doing some sort of surround sound fuckery, but unfortunately I can't see what would be causing it. I've got a Logitech Headset too (G933 in my case) and I don't have this issue.

 

All I can say is backup your INIs, then delete them, then relaunch GZDoom. This should force clean, new INIs. If the problem still persists, either a default setting is screwing it up, or you really do have some kind of setting that is messing with GZDoom.

 

Paging @Graf Zahl to see if he's got any ideas.

[Genesis6763]

Just deleted gzdoom.ini and started from scratch. My sound problem persists. I just tested the sound with my speakers instead of headphones and it seems it does not affect them. I don't know, maybe my headphones are the problem? Its really strange though, as this problem does not happen in any other game or in any other source port like Crispy Doom. I'll go test Zandronum and Zdoom if they have the issue.

[Genesis6763]

Zdoom and Zandronum have the same problem. Surely it can't just be my headphones then? There has to be some setting that is doing this. 

[Dark Pulse]

If it's multiple programs, then yeah, I'd wager there's some setting somewhere that's screwing something up, especially since it works fine with your speakers.

 

You sure there's not some sort of per-app profile thing going on in Logitech Gaming Settings? It should look like this.

 

[Genesis6763]

I have surround turned off, I've made sure of this. I don't think the problem is linked to my headphones software but rather GZDoom.

 

[Redneckerz]

This could be a bug in ZMusic. I suggest you file a thread at the ZDoom forums with your issue.

[seed]

2 hours ago, Redneckerz said:

This could be a bug in ZMusic. I suggest you file a thread at the ZDoom forums with your issue.

 

OP has a similar issue with Zandronum too, so it's most likely something on their end.

[Redneckerz]

1 hour ago, seed said:

 

OP has a similar issue with Zandronum too, so it's most likely something on their end.

Yeah i just noticed, thanks :)

[Genesis6763]

Currently going back to old versions of the game and seeing where the problem first occurs. It seems a November 2005 build does not have the problem : )

[Genesis6763]

I found the specific build of the game that is the first to feature my problem. It is GZDoom-bin-1-1-02 from March 24, 2008. If anyone can figure out what happened to the game to introduce this, I would really, really appreciate it. Thanks.

[Dark Pulse]

That's a hugely ancient build, too... I'd genuinely have no clue at that point except maybe the audio backend changed.

[Edward850]

@Genesis6763 Two things:

1) So disabling surround sound on the Logitech 7.1 headphones does not stop it from being a 7.1 device, it just disables the 7.1 processing on the device end and down-mixes everything to the two individual phones. This means GZDoom still sees a 8 channel sound setup if you leave it on the default.

2) To that end, with GZDoom still potentially outputting to 8 channels, You may be currently experiencing a bug with the drivers themselves that causes the surround sound mixing to fail (as I mentioned above, even with surround sound turned off, it's still physically an 8 channel sound card). Try disconnecting the headphones, rebooting your PC, and then once rebooted connect the headphones to a brand new USB port (i.e one it has never been connected to before) to get the driver to reinstall.

Edited July 11, 2020 by Edward850

[Genesis6763]

Thanks a lot Edward, that sounds like that could be it. Thanks for the help everyone!

[Graf Zahl]

On 7/11/2020 at 6:02 AM, Dark Pulse said:

That's a hugely ancient build, too... I'd genuinely have no clue at that point except maybe the audio backend changed.

 

2008 sounds right around the time when ZDoom moved to FModEx and got true surround mixing. The older versions most likely just output a stereo signal so the rear sound doesn't get lost. Of course, by now GZDoom uses OpenAL, meaning it's still two different libraries causing a problem which points to an issue with the system's sound configuration.

 

[Varis Alpha]

sorry for bumping this thread, but i've been having the same issue here and i have no idea how to fix it. i'm using a headphone amp with a Scarlett 2i4 and i've turned spatial audio off for the device i'm using and it doesn't seem to do anything.