What is the blue sphere (The Ancient Gods Part I)? (DLC spoiler)

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When the Slayer enters the Tomb of Souls, you can see several spheres, two of which are significantly larger than all others and face each other:

 

But before he enters the scene, we can see a much bigger one in the sky:

 

I saw this discussion on Reddit and one of them thinks the giant blue one might be the Father:

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Because It was never explained what It exactly is... If It's a portal, to where? Not to Urdak since the Father wanted this are Isolated from Urdak and Unreachable by Hell. Also we see at the Sphere's place they can indeed have different sizes, the smaller ones probably from the other gods (primevals) which are not as powerful. Since the father is the creator of all, including the Dark Lord, It would make sense for his sphere being the biggest and most powerful of all. In regards to the Seraphim he could be trying to deceive the Slayer actually.

Notice the one being said to be the Father's is a yellow one and who we know uses a lot of Yellow in design? The Khan Maykr, also It is almost the same as the ball that flew off from the Maykrs Corpse in the main game, meaning It could in fact be hers. Searching more designwise, Vega's icon is also a circle and also blue, So the only thing we have to identify the Father or Vega is a blue circle/sphere. Why would the Seraphim want to place hands on the Khan's orbit would not yet be revealed at the moment and the Slayer seemed a lot suspicious of the Seraphim in this moment for some reason.

If It were an artificial sun, why would the father bother to create one If he could just create a standard sun with no difficulty? It would also mean, since It's blue the Scene would be lit blue and not 2hite as It is, It does shine blue noticeable on the buildings (At least I assume It's buildings) but not enough to lit the whole scene. in fact, indicating the Scene has another and a White Sun. And also judging by the fact that the Blue Sphere is also floating exactly above of the other spheres position.

 

 

What do you think?

[Martin-CAI]

It certanly makes sense. 

If it's not kind of a "real Father's sphere", maybe a portal to a place that we haven't already been.

Or maybe decoration, you know...

[Doom64hunter]

The most probable reasoning: The blue sphere is decoration and doesn't mean much in the grand scheme.

 

But a fun theory would be that the golden sphere was actually Doomguy's own Life Sphere, somehow. Because the Red Sphere is the Dark Lord, aka. Evil Doomguy.

After all, why would the soul sphere of the literal god of the universe have the same size as one of his creations?

Edited October 28, 2020 by Doom64hunter

[AtimZarr1]

The object seems two-dimensional compared to the Spheres and also seems to have a unique swirl around it, whereas the Spheres pulsate. I think it's more likely a portal to Urdak which allowed The Father in his physical form to enter and exit Ingmore's Sanctum whenever he pleased. The seal between worlds would prevent any denizens of the two realms from crossing over using the portal anyways.

 

The Khan Maykr's Sphere was likely the orb that got destroyed when she died. Even if the yellow orb was somehow the Khan Maykr's Sphere, somebody would have had to place it in Ingmore's Sanctum after she died - as the Spheres essentially contain soul data for dead gods. That seems unlikely as there aren't any known candidates who would've placed it in Ingmore's Sanctum after the fall of Urdak. Besides, the Seraphim was suffering from the Transfiguration, he needed the Father's Life Sphere to avoid that fate. I'm not certain what a hypothetical Khan Maykr's Life Sphere would grant him anyways, not to mention it would make the Blood Swamps level confusing since it never calls into question the truthfulness of the Father's Life Sphere - the only ambiguous part is the Seraphim's intentions, but not what has already been presented to us (like the mission objective).

 

Fun fact though, the Seraphim refers to The Father's Sphere as a "soul sphere". The interesting connection here is that Soul Spheres in Classic Doom were described in the Doom Bible as such: "the soul sphere contains the life energy of a human soul" and it would originally grant the player an extra life.

 

[Kristian Nebula]

I remember in Nekravol 2, Hayden or Samur mentioned something about different leadership in Urdak referring to possibly himself. Maybe it was part of his plan to become the next Khan and try to deceive the Slayer with the yellow sphere. It does indeed look like (a) Khan Maykr's sphere, perhaps coincidentally too. Interesting to see how it unfolds! I paid a lot of attention to Samur's mouth expressions, and it kinda definitely looks to me that he had something else on his mind than what he was letting the Slayer know, but he didn't clearly expect the Slayer to guess it and have his own plan instead.

[Taurus Daggerknight]

.....waaait a second......

From the top view, does that pool look...familiar to anyone?

[whatup876]

The area in general has a very interesting aesthetic, that the black spheres look like eye and with the podium themed after it, it includes a fetus like the one you see in one of the new codex pages.

I wonder if those rocks/"eyes" or even the blue sphere itself are some entities that make sure someone deserves to get there.

Like if someone skipped the challenges/trials of Maligog and all, they'd get a worse fate if they reached the life spheres by cheating.

[TheRedTide]

I think it's just decoration.

[Kristian Nebula]

Now after a few subsequent runs of TAG1 I'm becoming more convinced that the large blue sphere on top of the smaller spheres is the Father's sphere, and it's possible that the Slayer could also know that. Maybe his memory isn't so erased as Samur seems to think it is... The yellow sphere definitely looks too much like Khan Maykr's sphere after I replayed Urdak on the original campaign (which felt super easy on Nightmare after playing TAG). 

[Lafuente]

Come to think of it, the trailers hyped up the blue orb, and yet in the DLC, it wasn't focused on. For all we know, that's either the Father's Sphere as some have suggested or a portal. 

[Kristian Nebula]

After observing it many times now, it definitely looks like it has a spherical structure with shining round surface than a flat portal-like structure, which usually also has some particle current being sucked in from around it. Remains to be seen. :)