The Dean of Doom series (companion thread)

[Faceman2000]

I’d love a peak into the alternate universe where PG was part of Final Doom. I really like this mapset.

[Gothic]

So what's the status on Perdition's Gate's (and Hell to Pay while we're at it) legality? Is some old guy from WizardWorks still holding the rights on his attic or something? It would make a great addition to the Doom Unity port.

Edited April 24, 2023 by Gothic

[Gez]

3 minutes ago, Gothic said:

So what's the status on Perdition's Gate's (and Hell 2 Pay while we're at it) legality? Is some old guy from WizardWorks still holding the rights on his attic or something? It would make a great addition to the Doom Unity port.

According to Joe Wilcox if I remember correctly, WizardWorks had a "standard license" for contracted shovelware works where the rights reverted fully to the authors after a few years. Which would mean that PG&HTP are presumably now the legal property of Wraith Corporation.

[baja blast rd.]

Perdition's Gate map23 has one of my favorite demos. Stroller is a category that disallows running and strafing, so some of the jumps require unconventional tactics to be even possible. 

 

 

[Devalaous]

6 hours ago, Gothic said:

It would make a great addition to the Doom Unity port.

 

Hell to Pay explodes the Unity Port instantly on loading any map, and Perdition's Gate only runs the first 10 or so maps before everything goes imps up, so they'd likely need to be rebuilt from scratch to be official add-ons, even IF they get the rights.

[hombartaliga]

Hey MtPain27! Can i ask that which was the hardest map you reviewed so far? (other than lunar eclipse and these april fools stuff)

[Jacek Bourne]

1 hour ago, hombartaliga said:

Hey MtPain27! Can i ask that which was the hardest map you reviewed so far? (other than lunar eclipse and these april fools stuff)

Probably entropy by Nirvana unless I’m forgetting something.

[Bugslide]

14 minutes ago, Jacek Bourne said:

Probably entropy by Nirvana unless I’m forgetting something.

Swim With The Whales made him shatter his keyboard, so that's probably a contender too.

[No-Man Baugh]

58 minutes ago, Jacek Bourne said:

Probably entropy by Nirvana unless I’m forgetting something.

Map 29 of Community Chest 1 made him redefine what it means for a map to be "sadistic"

[Jacek Bourne]

6 minutes ago, No-Man Baugh said:

Map 29 of Community Chest 1 made him redefine what it means for a map to be "sadistic"

Not because of it’s difficulty.

[volleyvalley]

I actually really enjoyed Mackey's E3 levels, mainly because they're bite-sized and kind of fun, if you know where all the secrets are of course :). While yes I agree that they're a bit lazy, they're never boring, dull or easy, MAP24 is a prime example of that; it has unique visuals and fast-paced gameplay which I've come appreciate more and more times I played Perdition's Gate.

[Horus]

On 4/28/2023 at 7:33 PM, Jacek Bourne said:

Not because of it’s difficulty.

 

Difficulty can be defined in terms of complexity of progression as well as how challenging the combat is

[continuum.mid]

4 minutes ago, Horus said:

Difficulty can be defined in terms of complexity of progression as well as how challenging the combat is

Tangent: I wonder how MtPain will weigh the "difficulty of combat" vs "difficulty of finding the exit without watching a playthrough" in the Eternal Doom episode, assuming there's one in the pipeline. That would be an interesting digression.

Edited April 29, 2023 by continuum.mid

[Tristan]

33 minutes ago, continuum.mid said:

Tangent: I wonder how MtPain will weigh the "difficulty of combat" vs "difficulty of finding the exit without watching a playthrough" in the Eternal Doom episode, assuming there's one in the pipeline. That would be an interesting digression.

Eternal is in the season 3 trailer (0:06) so I guess it'll be covered soon

[RichardDS90]

Has anyone on here ever tried to predict what maps in certain WADs not yet covered that would get Valedictorian, Salutatorian, etc?

 

I get the feeling MAP20 and 21 of CC4 is gonna get that silent start he does on iconic maps. I wouldn't at all be surprised if they get the top grade as well.

[Foxstiel]

 

[TakenStew22]

I'm guessing this is the reason we haven't gotten another episode in awhile.

Better late than ever.

[MemeMind]

This is the one I have dreaded.

 

I dislike the map I made for Solar Struggle.

[Firedust]

Oh yes! I really hope this will incentivise Violentbeetle and Co. to make a sequel to Solar Struggle, because frankly speaking, it's easily one of the best UD megawads I've ever played.

[Anarkzie]

14 hours ago, MemeMind said:

This is the one I have dreaded.

 

I dislike the map I made for Solar Struggle.

 

Ah, don't worry about it man. Some of the guys that got A's have been mapping for years. I'm sure even someone like Cannonball has made maps he didn't like in the past. Just try to improve on the things about your map that you did not like and come back stronger. 

Edited May 30, 2023 by Anarkzie

[Faceman2000]

Sometimes I forget how much Mt Pain’s taste in maps differs from mine, and then he says something like “reminiscent of NEIS’ middle section” as a reason a map is bad. I love E2 and E3 of NEIS! His explanation for why he didn’t like a level actually made me want to try it out even more haha.

 

After all, disagreeing is part of the fun.

[baja blast rd.]

"I love the lack of self-consciousness about [Stickney Installation e3m1's] one-minute clear time. More of that please." 

100

 

edit: I regret my typography choices already

[spineapple tea]

Technically not a "Dean of Doom" episode, but still interesting nontheless and very much worth the wait.

 

[Biodegradable]

 

It's your time to shine, @lunchlunch!

Edited August 22, 2023 by Biodegradable

[Vladguy]

That title MIDI made me become one of those *realizes* reaction images. Oh god, why must memes run through me?!

[OceanMadman]

11 minutes ago, Vladguy said:

That title MIDI made me become one of those *realizes* reaction images. Oh god, why must memes run through me?!

Poor Mozart, now his masterpieces are just meme material >:(.

[MoiraHeart]

Finally, some proper Guardian Angel Loses Their Will appreciation. I've been thinking of an alternate timeline where the Dean reviews AV with the midi pack already out, but this will do!

[LSC Lasico]

I dunno what that is about this episode in particular, but it honestly feels special to me. It just has that sort of energy thar males it absolutely enthralling to watch. This is, in my opinion, the absolute best DoD episode out of all there is.

It also makes me suffer small pp syndrome, but that's another story.

[DisgruntledPorcupine]

10 hours ago, MoiraHeart said:

Finally, some proper Guardian Angel Loses Their Will appreciation. I've been thinking of an alternate timeline where the Dean reviews AV with the midi pack already out, but this will do!

Agreed, Plasma is a track that felt so married to Toxic Touch for me, and the fact that track managed to not only live up but surpass it IMO is unbelievable. Love to see it get more attention, an all-timer midi.

[baja blast rd.]

Best episode. The analysis is deep and specific while still being concise and emotionally compelling.