Endless Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) All speed. All skills. All endurance. » The Leaderboard « Welcome to the first ever iteration of the DWMaster Endurance Tournament! The Doom competition where your will to live and desire for victory shall be tested to the limit! Plus, how of a fast Doomer you are. Here we challenge ourselves to the maximum test of persistence by playing all kinds of episodic WADs to full fledges megawads; a new one each month, alongside a lovely challenge WAD surprise for those that want even more. This time we go into Doom, since this is the special date when every Doom enthusiast celebrates the birth of a franchise that generated a complete genre! I greatly welcome all competitors to this new monthly tournament; newcomers and hardcore players alike, thank you all for taking a part in this new endeavour, and I hope you all guys have fun! Spoiler THE OBJECTIVE: - The essence here is Endurance. A WAD is selected among the great ocean of content that Doom offers. The competitors then have to play the entirety or as long as they can to accumulate points. For this, we’ll (I'll) calculate: A. How long it took the competitor to finish the WAD (the faster, the better). B. The skill level chosen. C. The category that the player is submitting. D. Total progress. - There are 3 categories, just like some other DW leagues, if you need reference: 1. First Run: You haven’t played this WAD nor know anything about the general layout of the levels or anything else. This is your blind run, your first dive into it. 2. Experienced Run: You have played this WAD in its entirety a long ago or don’t remember much of the details, or have watched someone else play this WAD, to the point that you might have a considerable advantage over blind, first run players. 3. Prepared Run: You have played, finished, practiced, learnt or even mastered this WAD. You know all the levels or most of it and can run it with expertise, giving you a clear advantage over blind, first run players. - If the selected WAD has, example; 15 maps, you can and should finish all those 15 maps, BUT, you can also decide to leave your run at, let’s say 11 maps, and still be valid for submission in the competition. So, finishing the entire WAD is not needed, but recommended. The player with the most endurance is the one likely to win. - In the end, whoever finishes fastest with the highest skill level and with the most finished maps will accumulate the most points and win. - Along the normal WAD competition, there’s also a special Challenge WAD (or can be a special bonus map/or maps of the same WAD) that will follow the exact basic rules of UV, UV+ and NM! only, no saves, no deaths, continuous. This is a bonus and optional challenge that will score up to 5,000 points to the winner. Losers don’t get the points. This is a high risk, high reward kind of challenge. This is so some players that still crave for more can get an even higher challenge, while at the same time being a second chance to score more points. Winners of this challenge will also get a special mention on our winners’ article in the Doom Master Wadazine. This month, we endure… DOOM » Get DOOM here « (We all have it anyway so this is pretty redundant but still.) STANDARD COMPETITION: · Vanilla-compatible · -Complevel 3 for PrBoom and/or Doom (Strict) for ZDoom source-ports. · We endure E1M1 to E3M8. Secret levels are not required and should be omitted. · Est. first runners time to finish: 2 to 3 hours. · IWAD: DOOM.WAD THE STANDARD COMPETITION RULES: 1. Any skill level is valid, this includes NM! in case a mad doomer out there is crazy enough to try it. UV Fast is also allowed! All under your own responsibility. 2. This should go without saying but, NO CHEATS OR CHECKING THE MAP IN THE EDITOR. 3. No gameplay mods allowed (Brutal Doom, Final Doomer, Supercharge, etc.) 4. Visual mods allowed (Fullscreen HUDs, Smooth Doom, Vanilla Essence, etc.) 5. You can die as much as you like. lol 6. No pistol starting. Only continuous. 7. You can save up to 3 total times per map (Especially difficult WADs may have more saves.) When and where is up to you. 8. You must follow the Competition indications (Which will be published depending on the WAD compatibility, requirements, source-port, etc.) 9. Freelooks is allowed. But no jumping or crouching. 10. Secret/bonus levels should be omitted. They do not count towards score and will only drag your time. Sometimes, a Secret Level might be part of the Challenge. 11. Any source-port is allowed as long as it runs the WAD. 12. No dynamic lights, sorry. While they look cool, they also reveal hidden/secret items. CHALLENGE COMPETITION: » Thy Flesh Consumed « · Vanilla-compatible · -Complevel 3 for PrBoom and/or Doom (Strict) for ZDoom source-ports. · We endure E4M1 to E4M8. Secret levels are not required and should be omitted. · Est. first runners time to finish: 40 minutes to 1 hour. · IWAD: DOOM.WAD CHALLENGE COMPETITION RULES: 1. Ultra-Violence, UV Fast or NM! only. This is up to you. Better chances to get a better score with higher skills. 2. Only victory allowed. You die and you lose, or restart another try all over and endure until winning. Only send your victory submission. 2. This should go without saying but, again, NO CHEATS. 3. No gameplay mods allowed. 4. Visual mods allowed. 5. No pistol starting. Only continuous. 6. No saves, no loading. 7. You must follow the Competition Indications (Which will be published depending on the WAD compatibility, requirements, etc.) 8. Freelook is allowed. But no jumping or crouching. 9. Any source-port. 10. No dynamic lights, again. COMPETITION SUBMISSION REQUIERMENTS: 1. You can submit your playthrough with: YouTube videos, VODs or demos. If you do make a video, please start from the menu and show your compatibility and lightning options first. 2. Indicate your Competition Category. 3. Indicate your total time. Setting a timer with your phone or PC is a good idea to keep track of time in case you die or use save & load system. (the intermission screen is a requirement in your video, demo or VOD, can use a HUD addon to help with that too.) If the WAD is episodic, indicate total time for each episode. 4. Indicate your skill level. 5. Indicate your WAD progress, example: Finished at MAP29, or Finished the entire WAD. 6. Indicate the source-port you're using. NOTE: This is the same if you participate for the Challenge Competition, but of course, total time and skill level is irrelevant. NOTE 2: If you're a Vanilla, DOS or Chocolate user, please don't skip the text screen at the end to the levels. If you do this it will omit the true intermission screen (the one with your time stats) in source-ports like PrBoom+ and will probably cause us some trouble tracking your total time in saveless runs. NOTE 3: If you decide to not finish a full WAD, your progress will be taken into account only in your last intermission screen. Example: This means that if you play, let’s say MAP20, but just half of it and don’t finish, that progress won’t be taken into account and your score will be based on the intermission screen of MAP19. Good luck and good fun, Endurer. Also, another aspect that I encourage all competitors is to share their experiences, opinions and comments! Gameplay videos with live-commentary are more than welcome, they are cheered up. Civilized discussion and communication among both competitors and organizers is as much fun as playing. Some comments might even find their way into the winning article. Join our Discord community to discuss everything related to this Tournament and the Wadazine -- » https://discord.gg/Q2RKn4J Edited December 15, 2020 by Endless Leaderboard ready. Rules highlighted. 17 Quote Share this post Link to post
Krenium Posted December 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Endless said: You can submit your playthrough with: YouTube videos, VODs or demos. If you do make a video, please start from the menu and show your compatibility and lightning options first. May I be omitted from the menu requirement if I use PrBoom+'s ability to make videos from demos? Unfortunately it doesn't have the ability to show menus. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
leodoom85 Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) Doom.eh? It's Shotgun Sonata time!!! Looks like I'll choose GZDoom + recorder software to play all 3 episodes in one go. If not, 3 demos on Pr/GLBoom+ will do justice. Edit: didn't saw TFC episode challenge. Aight.....I'll do that one as well lol Edited December 1, 2020 by leodoom85 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Pseudonaut Posted December 1, 2020 Category 3, UV, finished all three episodes. Individual times for each episode are 15:55, 16:53, and 18:29. I think that adds up to 51:17. Didn't feel like grinding out a better time or practicing, so these demos are all my first attempts. Maybe I'll try TFC tomorrow. DWM-pseudonaut.zip 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
leodoom85 Posted December 1, 2020 @EndlessI forgot to mention that some GZDoom console commands like i_timescale (used to slow or accelerate time) and sv_fastweapons and similar CVARs are also considered as cheats. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Endless Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Krenium said: May I be omitted from the menu requirement if I use PrBoom+'s ability to make videos from demos? Unfortunately it doesn't have the ability to show menus. Of course, that's mostly a requirement for ZDoom-relatives users. Edited December 1, 2020 by Endless 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Endless Posted December 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Pseudonaut said: Category 3, UV, finished all three episodes. Individual times for each episode are 15:55, 16:53, and 18:29. I think that adds up to 51:17. Didn't feel like grinding out a better time or practicing, so these demos are all my first attempts. Maybe I'll try TFC tomorrow. DWM-pseudonaut.zip Ha! Beautiful, congratulations on becoming the first ever endurer! I'll get the leaderboard ready in a few moments ;) 4 hours ago, leodoom85 said: @EndlessI forgot to mention that some GZDoom console commands like i_timescale (used to slow or accelerate time) and sv_fastweapons and similar CVARs are also considered as cheats. Noted Leo. I do believe it is well known that such commands are considered cheats. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Endless Posted December 1, 2020 UPDATE: The Tournament leaderboard is ready and now public to anyone that wishes to see the scores! » Learderboard « @Pseudonaut You can check out your score now in case you're curious as to how you did in this run. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
LittleDuck Posted December 1, 2020 Oh yea, is controller allowed? I cannot play doom normally because I have a touchpad, and no mouse. Using controller on GZDoom btw 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Endless Posted December 1, 2020 Just now, LittleDuckling said: Oh yea, is controller allowed? I cannot play doom normally because I have a touchpad, and no mouse. Using controller on GZDoom btw You're welcome to play on any controls-setting you wish, be it keyboard or even controllers! Just follow the posted rules ;) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Steve88 Posted December 1, 2020 Ah Man I suck at doom but I'm going to have to try it because I love ep4 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Endless Posted December 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Steve88 said: Ah Man I suck at doom but I'm going to have to try it because I love ep4 We all start somewhere ;) The Standard Competition is way more forgiving. But do keep in mind that E4 is part of the Challenge Competition, which is way harder and thus, challenging. Hehe. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Bdubzzz Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) Category 2 or 3? ... have played UD probably 5 - 10 times in total before? Not sure but I mostly played Doom 2 when I was younger :p I also have seen the speedruns for UD many times over the years... still got lost at times but overall went ok. For episode 4 I played much more safely and was very close to death multiple times.. I couldn't remember where any armor was :p Difficulty: UV E1 15:22 E2 16:34 E3 12:44 Standard total: 44:40 E4 34:35 DWE1-dubz.zip Edited December 1, 2020 by Bdubzzz Added Difficulty 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
Endless Posted December 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, Bdubzzz said: Category 2 or 3? ... have played UD probably 5 - 10 times in total before? Not sure but I mostly played Doom 2 when I was younger :p I also have seen the speedruns for UD many times over the years... still got lost at times but overall went ok. For episode 4 I played much more safely and was very close to death multiple times.. I couldn't remember where any armor was :p E1 15:22 E2 16:34 E3 12:44 Standard total: 44:40 E4 34:35 DWE1-dubz.zip Def category 3 haha :) Also, I pressume you did UV? Don't forget the skill level! Your score will be displayed in the Leaderboard once it's ready. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Pierrot Posted December 2, 2020 Category 3, UV, finished all 3 episodes + E4. I blasted my way through E1-3, as I intensively played them on SNES. For E4, I had some hard time in E4M6. First I hit 4% health before luckily finding the soulsphere, then I got lost for a minute losing some health in the lava pit, and finally I wasn't confident against the cyber. I fortunately killed him at the last second. In the end that was intense but fun. E1 13:27 E2 11:17 E3 11:00 Total: 35:44 E4 34:52 DWMET1_Pierrot.zip 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
Arbys550 Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) Category 3, UV, PrBoom+ E1 15:27 E2 19:28 E3 15:27 Total 50:22 enduranceArbys.zip Playing through this has reminded me how much I don't like Doom 1. Edited December 2, 2020 by Arbys550 Forgot more stuff 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
Endless Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Pierrot said: Category 3, UV, finished all 3 episodes + E4. I blasted my way through E1-3, as I intensively played them on SNES. For E4, I had some hard time in E4M6. First I hit 4% health before luckily finding the soulsphere, then I got lost for a minute losing some health in the lava pit, and finally I wasn't confident against the cyber. I fortunately killed him at the last second. In the end that was intense but fun. E1 13:27 E2 11:17 E3 11:00 Total: 35:44 E4 34:52 DWMET1_Pierrot.zip Hey man! Could you tell us what source-port did you use? Your intermission screen skips at the end so we think you probably used vanilla or chocolate. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Endless Posted December 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, Arbys550 said: Category 3. E1 15:27 E2 19:28 E3 15:27 Total 50:22 Playing through this has reminded me how much I don't like Doom 1. Haha, but... where's the demo/video? xD 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Arbys550 Posted December 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, Endless said: Haha, but... where's the demo/video? xD lol I am stupid. I'll update it 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Endless Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) IMPORTANTE UDPATE COMPETITION SUBMISSION REQUIERMENTS: 6. Indicate the source-port you're using. NOTE 2 ADDED: If you're a Vanilla, DOS or Chocolate user, please don't skip the text screen at the end to the levels. If you do this it will omit the true intermission screen (the one with your time stats) in source-ports like PrBoom+ and will probably cause us some trouble tracking your total time in saveless runs. Don't worry, intermission screens don't count as time. Also, 1 hour ago, Arbys550 said: Category 3. E1 15:27 E2 19:28 E3 15:27 Total 50:22 enduranceArbys.zip Playing through this has reminded me how much I don't like Doom 1. I've checked the demos finals and your total time is: E1 15:13 E2 19:09 E3 15:11 Maybe you're adding up something else? Or Am I missing something? Cause you're actually giving yourself more time haha. Also, please don't forget to provide skill level. Edited December 2, 2020 by Endless 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
SF. Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) I beat this 2-3 months back. I remember most of the maps pretty well, but not all of them. What category would my run fall into? I'm sorry if this is a stupid question Edit - I'll consider it as a prepared run. Edited December 2, 2020 by paturn 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Pierrot Posted December 2, 2020 7 hours ago, Endless said: Hey man! Could you tell us what source-port did you use? Your intermission screen skips at the end so we think you probably used vanilla or chocolate. I used Crispy Doom 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Arbys550 Posted December 2, 2020 15 hours ago, Endless said: Also, I've checked the demos finals and your total time is: E1 15:13 E2 19:09 E3 15:11 Maybe you're adding up something else? Or Am I missing something? Cause you're actually giving yourself more time haha. Also, please don't forget to provide skill level. Crap, of course I forgot something else. That's odd that our times differ. I just played each demo, popped open the advanced HUD and recorded the time it showed there. This time would include intermission screens, so that may be the cause of the extra time. I'll edit my post again with missing info. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Endless Posted December 2, 2020 11 hours ago, paturn said: I beat this 2-3 months back. I remember most of the maps pretty well, but not all of them. What category would my run fall into? I'm sorry if this is a stupid question Edit - I'll consider it as a prepared run. A Prepared Run would meant that you know and remember very well almost the entire WAD, meaning that you would quickly finish it with no major problem. On the other hand, a Experienced Run means that you have, indeed, played the WAD but lack the proper practice, map knowledge or level layout memory to actually do an advanced run. And last, of course, a First Run means is just first blind time getting into it. In your case, A Category 3: Prepared Run, sounds about right! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Doomydeimos Posted December 2, 2020 Hi there ! Here my times with a link to the full record Settings Port : Zandronum , no dynamic light, doom strict settings Skill : Ultra violence Category : 3 I play mostly safe, and don't follow wr's routes. Time : 10min12 for episode 1 8min46 for episode 2 6min30 for episode 3 Total : 31min26 Also, I forgot to turn off announcer, and i'm using a skin for blood and bullet decal. This don't affect gameplay at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg80zhts0Fw 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Endless Posted December 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, Doomydeimos said: Hi there ! Here my times with a link to the full record Settings Port : Zandronum , no dynamic light, doom strict settings Skill : Ultra violence Category : 3 I play mostly safe, and don't follow wr's routes. Time : 10min12 for episode 1 8min46 for episode 2 6min30 for episode 3 Total : 31min26 Also, I forgot to turn off announcer, and i'm using a skin for blood and bullet decal. This don't affect gameplay at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg80zhts0Fw Nice, our first video submission! Smooth run mate. Thanks for participating. Also, next time, try not to omit the intermission screens (but since here each M8 omits the screen automatically, it's understandable.) Your score is already up, you can check out the leaderboard if you're curious as to how you did: » Leaderboard 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Yori Posted December 2, 2020 First ever doom speedrun, how exciting Settings: Port Gzdoom Skill: Hurt me Plenty Category 3 Time: 17:00 for episode 1 DNF for rest Total 28:59 Getting better and currently working on the Challenge comp right now, hopefully that will be much better than this. Just wanted to get this out to say I was 5th to submit in the competition, clearly I waited too long lol, 6th is still nice tho Using standard Gzdoom settings, with jump and crouch unbound 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Endless Posted December 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Yori said: First ever doom speedrun, how exciting Settings: Port Gzdoom Skill: Hurt me Plenty Category 3 Time: 17:00 for episode 1 DNF for rest Total 28:59 Getting better and currently working on the Challenge comp right now, hopefully that will be much better than this. Just wanted to get this out to say I was 5th to submit in the competition, clearly I waited too long lol, 6th is still nice tho Using standard Gzdoom settings, with jump and crouch unbound Nice try man! While you did not finish the rest of the maps, you still followed the rules so you're up for the scoreboard! You could've tried again since saves are valid :P Your run also looks more like a Category 2, since you seem to know the basic layouts of the early maps, but you did get lost on the last maps. Also, don't forget to provide your progress always. Your score is up an ready. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
leodoom85 Posted December 4, 2020 SO. This video was recorded on Tuesday 1st. Couldn't uploaded this because of wifi issues here in the sector. Anyway. The following times are: 16:16 for Ep.1, 18:45 for Ep.2 and 15:07 for Ep.3, giving me a total of 50:08. Ultraviolence, familiar run because I don't need to prepare such a run. However, Ep.4 was different. Died on E4M7 with a time of 20:50. Here's the video. Changed all settings before the gameplay as said in the rules. GZDoom 4.5.0 was used in this run. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Endless Posted December 4, 2020 29 minutes ago, leodoom85 said: SO. This video was recorded on Tuesday 1st. Couldn't uploaded this because of wifi issues here in the sector. Anyway. The following times are: 16:16 for Ep.1, 18:45 for Ep.2 and 15:07 for Ep.3, giving me a total of 50:08. Ultraviolence, familiar run because I don't need to prepare such a run. However, Ep.4 was different. Died on E4M7 with a time of 20:50. Here's the video. Changed all settings before the gameplay as said in the rules. GZDoom 4.5.0 was used in this run. Nice! Good run mate. Pity you didn't finish E4 :P But still there's some time. Familiar run? I'll guess you mean Category 2: Experienced Run. Your score is up btw! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
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