Which MegaWADs do you think should have it's own Custom MIDI Project addon soundtrack?

[lokbustam257]

1 minute ago, roadworx said:

what.

oops

[AnonKaiju]

Something I've always wanted to see is a midi pack for doom 64 that replaces the songs with classic commercial doom music (not just doom 1 and 2 but also tnt since it has an underrated soundtrack). Don't get me wrong I love doom 64's atmospheric soundtrack but I've always wondered how well traditional doom music could fit over the levels.

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23 minutes ago, AnonKaiju said:

Something I've always wanted to see is a midi pack for doom 64 that replaces the songs with classic commercial doom music (not just doom 1 and 2 but also tnt since it has an underrated soundtrack). Don't get me wrong I love doom 64's atmospheric soundtrack but I've always wondered how well traditional doom music could fit over the levels.

Doom 64 for Doom II has a soundtrack like that.

 

To summarize my previous posts, a megaWAD is deserving of a MIDI pack if it is widely remembered and either:

• Doesn't have a custom soundtrack,
• Primarily uses tracks from the commercial IWADs, or
• Reuses tracks from other projects in a way that doesn't fit the levels.

 

Alien Vendetta is the best candidate in my mind. Though having a fully Free as in Freedom soundtrack for Double Impact would also be nice!

Edited May 24, 2021 by northivanastan

[Marisa the Magician]

Has anyone mentioned Hellbound yet?

[AnonKaiju]

2 minutes ago, northivanastan said:

Doom 64 for Doom II has a soundtrack like that.

 

To summarize my previous posts, a megaWAD is deserving of a MIDI pack if it is widely remembered and either:

• Doesn't have a custom soundtrack,
• Primarily uses tracks from the commercial IWADs, or
• Reuses tracks from other projects in a way that doesn't fit the levels.

 

I'm aware doom 64 for doom 2 counts but it's not the same without doom 64's sprite work and lighting. Though you are correct in that doom 64 doesn't exactly fit the criteria

[Roofi]

Without talking about megawads, I wonder if composers would manage to make midis on old random maps of a similar quality to D!Zone dating from 1994 or 1995.

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1 minute ago, Roofi said:

Without talking about megawads, I wonder if composers would manage to make midis on old random maps of a similar quality to D!Zone dating from 1994 or 1995.

That would be a good premise for a "speedMIDI contest." Hmm...

[rzh]

1 hour ago, northivanastan said:

I'm not sure how we could make those MIDIs worse. And to make them better would miss the point.

To be honest I'd like to see a really good MIDI pack for Mock 2 with high production quality, done ironically so that it doesn't fit Doom in general, let alone Mock 2. Properly mixed, orchestral and ambient MIDIs, something really baroque.

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8 minutes ago, rzh said:

To be honest I'd like to see a really good MIDI pack for Mock 2 with high production quality, done ironically so that it doesn't fit Doom in general, let alone Mock 2. Properly mixed, orchestral and ambient MIDIs, something really baroque.

so basically use my MIDIs?

 

In all seriousness, existing MIDIs that don't fit Doom in general are not hard to find. But I wouldn't want to make that a whole project over Alien Vendetta for example.

Edited May 24, 2021 by northivanastan

[Wadmodder Shalton]

Chillax should technically have an original custom MIDI project as well.

[rzh]

8 minutes ago, northivanastan said:

~~so basically use my MIDIs.~~

In all seriousness, existing MIDIs that don't fit Doom in general are not hard to find.

To be honest I can't really think of a serious answer, most high-profile megawads (aka the only ones I managed to play) that don't have an original soundtrack use custom MIDIs picked by the mapper themselves and it is an ethical issue whether or not someone can start a MIDI replacement project in this case, especially since the trend seems to be that people mostly want to re-experience older wads which were made by mappers that might not even be alive today, or might have left the community a long time ago and are basically unreachable. To get such a project going, you need both parties to agree to retrofit a custom soundtrack for a wad that already uses MIDIs that aren't part of the original soundtrack.

[pcorf]

On 4/11/2021 at 4:49 AM, roadworx said:

don't you write music? you could make a midi pack for the twilight zone

 

I started work on one back in 2000 but just ran out of ideas. I was not convinced with the songs. I'd remake twzone.wad all over again if I had a choice but to me it is pointless. Once Zone 400 and my UD megawad is complete next year I'm focusing more on family. I'll still play Doom and make occasional maps here and then.

[pcorf]

On 5/24/2021 at 2:43 AM, SLOTH MARINE (CB) said:

Hell Revealed, because it just uses ROTT midis

 

I still think HR is the only megawad suited for ROTT midis. The fast, catchy tunes suit these slaughtermaps. But since then way too many megawads (Kama Sutra, Hellbound, etc) have used the same songs.

Edited May 25, 2021 by pcorf

[SLOTH MARINE (CB)]

4 hours ago, pcorf said:

 

I still think HR is the only megawad suited for ROTT midis. The fast, catchy tunes suit these slaughtermaps. But since then way too many megawads (Kama Sutra, Hellbound, etc) have used the same songs.

true, but another I think is Doom 2 The Way ID Did

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Just now, SLOTH MARINE (CB) said:

true, but another I think is Doom 2 The Way ID Did

It is generally agreed that MID The Way id Did fits that almost as well as Doom 2.

[SLOTH MARINE (CB)]

1 minute ago, northivanastan said:

It is generally agreed that MID The Way id Did fits that almost as well as Doom 2.

What about Alien Vendetta, that uses a lot of midis from Doom 1 and Doom 2 

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3 minutes ago, SLOTH MARINE (CB) said:

What about Alien Vendetta, that uses a lot of midis from Doom 1 and Doom 2 

That's what I think is the best candidate.

 

(Maybe read the thread to see if this has already been brought up?)

[Devalaous]

You know what I want to see on the subject of music for megawads? Borrowing from those deathmatch megawads (Gothic series, TNT's DM wads etc) with music from the likes of Mark Klem and David Shaw that's always going unheard by the SP community. I like having music options for all these replays of custom wads with no soundtracks.

[Jacek Bourne]

Hell revealed

 

[Devalaous]

A megawad for consideration that is often forgotten is Vilecore. 32 maps of stock music. Dunno if Doom Dude has plans to add music for the 1.2 release, but hey, its another big megawad that is ripe for midimaking.

[Wadmodder Shalton]

also, both Herian & Herian 2 should also have their own original MIDI OST project.

[Devalaous]

True, Herian 2 IS a proto-cacoward winner. It has a complex dependency on external files that werent futureproofed, if you wanted music etc.

 

Honestly, I thought noone even remembered the Herians, outside of kmexii's reviews.

[Michael Jensen]

Cleimos 2, since it has no custom MIDI's and is also largely forgotten, so project like this would bring much deserved attention to it ;)

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24 minutes ago, A.H. Sankhatayan said:

Cleimos 2, since it has no custom MIDI's and is also largely forgotten, so project like this would bring much deserved attention to it ;)

The flip side of that is that the project leader would probably need to recruit people who care to make a soundtrack for a largely forgotten mapset.

[Andromeda]

20 hours ago, northivanastan said:

The flip side of that is that the project leader would probably need to recruit people who care to make a soundtrack for a largely forgotten mapset.

Well, it worked for The Rebirth.

[Devalaous]

Realm of Chaos is another soundtrack-less megawad. And one of Doomworld's frequent posters worked on that one iirc.

[adamastor]

I don't know if it's already been mentioned, but I'd say NEIS for sure.

[Gez]

On mardi 25 mai 2021 at 1:36 PM, northivanastan said:

It is generally agreed that MID The Way id Did fits that almost as well as Doom 2.

Yeah, but you cannot deny the allure that the title "MID The Way TWID Did" would have.

[Devalaous]

On 5/29/2021 at 10:47 PM, Andromeda said:

Well, it worked for The Rebirth.

 

Honestly, I didnt even know Rebirth existed till it had a midi pack made for it, and while I knew TVR existed, the midipack made me play it to completion.

 

 

Also, about Hell Revealed: This was copied and pasted from one of the text files for it "The new musics are currently taken from Rise of the Triad - we might release an updated version with original musics soon." So, none of the music was really permanent for it, not the midified band music in its original 11 map release, or the ROTT music in the final. MIDI pack can definitely happen :p

[Dreemurr Deceevurr]

No End In Sight is definitely a set in need of a custom midi project. You could probably structure it in theme like the wad itself, with Bobby-esque MIDI rock bangers and electronic tracks for the first episode before slowly but surely introducing heavier or more offbeat stuff in the later episodes.