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What vanilla pwad would have caused the biggest WOW when replaced with doom2?


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12 minutes ago, Hitboi said:

Crispy Doom


Crispy removes limits. Disqualified. :P

I think people are confusing vanilla compatible with other things like "vanilla map format" and "vanilla but limit removing."

If it doesn't run in doom2.exe, it's not vanilla compatible.

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11 hours ago, Juza said:

Alien Vendetta. BTSX is cool but it doesn't have much variation in themes. Doom 2 Reloaded too maybe, but it doesn't fix Doom 2's problem of subpar gameplay

BTSX E1’s new textures and layouts alone would be enough to blow people away in the 90s, varied or not. E2 on the other hand has the variety as well as the new textures. 

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17 minutes ago, magicsofa said:

Crispy removes limits.

I forgot about that.
 

17 minutes ago, magicsofa said:

I think people are confusing vanilla compatible with other things like "vanilla map format" and "vanilla but limit removing."

If it doesn't run in doom2.exe, it's not vanilla compatible.

Yeah, true.

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inspired by all your great answers I would also go for AV, simply imagine loading map20 in '94. except of some larger areas it might have worked for the hardware too and for sure would have blown people away. what fascinates me (and that was one reason to create this post) is to see when the wads suggested were actually made. astonishingly most of them are quite old ~20 years or older. anyone has an idea what the cause of this is? nostalgia? lack of people creating vanilla compatible wads today?

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Proabably i am a little on necro fetish today, but i wonder how nobody mentioned the masterpiece that Three's a Crowd is.
It blows lots of people head nowdays, imagine if it was released back on the old days.
 

On 5/15/2021 at 4:31 PM, termrork said:

anyone has an idea what the cause of this is? nostalgia? lack of people creating vanilla compatible wads today?

Actually, vanilla comp is still getting great mapsets even to these days.
And i will just name a good amount of amazing vanilla mapsets released on the last decade (2010-2020)


-Three's a Crowd is one.
-Akeldama

-Rowdy's Rudy 2: Powertrip!
-Doom Zero

-REKKR

-Doom 404

-No End In Sight (except E4 that is Limit Removing)
-TNT: Revilution

-Nihility: Infinite Teeth

-BTSX E1 and E2

-Doom 2 In Name Only

-Interception
-Base Ganymede
-1K Line CP serie.

-Plutonia Revisited CP
-Reverie

-Khorus' Speedy Shit
-EPIC 2

That lin-up is on par with the best megawads released on the 90's, if not even better.
Fortunatelly for us, vanilla mapping is still alive and kicking, and even some new tricks are discovered to add new features to it.
 

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3 minutes ago, P41R47 said:

Actually, vanilla comp is still getting great mapsets even to these days.
And i will just name a good amount of amazing vanilla mapsets released on the last decade (2010-2020)

I agree, you could argue vanilla mapping is bigger now than it was in the 2000s. 1K Lines 3 just came out and quite frankly, despite its limitations, its probably a contender for my favorite wad this year (and that's saying something, this year is packed).

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1 hour ago, P41R47 said:

Proabably i am a little on necro fetish today, but i wonder how nobody mentioned the masterpiece that Three's a Crowd is.
It blows lots of people head nowdays, imagine if it was released back on the old days.
 

Actually, vanilla comp is still getting great mapsets even to these days.
And i will just name a good amount of amazing vanilla mapsets released on the last decade (2010-2020)


-Three's a Crowd is one.
-Akeldama

-Rowdy's Rudy 2: Powertrip!
-Doom Zero

-REKKR

-Doom 404

-No End In Sight (except E4 that is Limit Removing)
-TNT: Revilution

-Nihility: Infinite Teeth

-BTSX E1 and E2

-Doom 2 In Name Only

-Interception
-Base Ganymede
-1K Line CP serie.

-Plutonia Revisited CP
-Reverie

-Khorus' Speedy Shit
-EPIC 2

That lin-up is on par with the best megawads released on the 90's, if not even better.
Fortunatelly for us, vanilla mapping is still alive and kicking, and even some new tricks are discovered to add new features to it.
 

Great choices, TNTR, 1000k series, Doom404, and Epic 2 alone probably put this on par or above the best of the 90s . 

1 hour ago, Egg Boy said:

I agree, you could argue vanilla mapping is bigger now than it was in the 2000s. 1K Lines 3 just came out and quite frankly, despite its limitations, its probably a contender for my favorite wad this year (and that's saying something, this year is packed).

Yeah they did a great job with the wad. Lots of fun, and I love the dehacked work. 

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Right now, I would say 1000 lines 3 CP. Even with added limitation of only 1000 lines per map, it is an extremely impressive vanilla compatible package.

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