Albondigoide Posted May 22, 2021 So it's like an... arch de triumph... that is... evil? I don't get it. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
out_of_service Posted May 22, 2021 Because they can be considered your arch nemesis and they're exceptionally vile because they can toast you like a marshmallow and undo all your hard work. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post
Sotenga Posted May 22, 2021 Because "Goddamn Exploding Resurrecting Speedy Horrible Asshole" sounds inelegant. But... maybe it could have been called a "GERSHA," come to think of it. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted May 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Albondigoide said: So it's like an... arch de triumph... that is... evil? I don't get it. That's not actually the same word. -arch as a noun ultimately comes from the Latin "arcus", meaning a bow. Now you know why the practice of shooting a bow is called archery. -arch as a prefix or suffix ultimately comes from the Greek "ἀρχή" (arkhe), meaning rule. So a monarch is someone who rules alone (mon is alone), while an archbishop is the chief of the bishops. So the arch-vile rules over vileness. There you go. 29 Quote Share this post Link to post
DavidN Posted May 22, 2021 It was incidental, but that bit about “monarch” was incredible - I never realized it was mon(o) + arch the whole time! 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
Faceman2000 Posted May 22, 2021 Cuz Sandy Petersen thought it sounded cool and no one else wanted to name the demons. But also what Gez said. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
xScavengerWolfx Posted May 22, 2021 I though his name was the demon healer or a necromancer. Whatever is name is the arch-vile is a flaming dick! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Sena Posted May 23, 2021 they make an arch with the attack they are vile I don't know mate, anyone's guess, they call the final boss the icon of sin, but they never specified which sin 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Bauul Posted May 23, 2021 A bigger question is how you pronounce it. Is it "arch" like "archbishop", or "ark" like in "archangel"? 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
BaileyTW Posted May 23, 2021 Because they are some sort of ruler, I mean they got their faces on walls and stuff in even Doom 1, and they weren't even around. I mean not even the spiderdemon has a wall built in their likeness. Thus Arch (monARCH, ARCHbishop). and because demons are weird they like ruling over bad stuff. So the archeviles rules over vile-ness. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
SLOTH MARINE (CB) Posted May 23, 2021 because it's your arch enemy and it is vile 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Arrowhead Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) Archviles are called Archviles because they're "one of the worst of a bad lot..." Edited May 23, 2021 by Arrowhead 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
VoanHead Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Arrowhead said: Archviles are called Archviles because they're "one of the worst of a bad lot..." I view Archviles differently. "One of the worst of a bad lot" my ass, he resurrects his demon friends even if they misfire at him w/ their projectiles. That's a real friend right there... ...but they're still assholes because of the hitscan magic flame attack. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Roofi Posted May 23, 2021 Future question : Are lost souls really lost? 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
Vaeros Posted May 23, 2021 Because they're Doomguy's Arch-enemies and they're so vile. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Jello Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Roofi said: Future question : Are lost souls really lost? I can't remember what map I was playing, but it had a huge outdoor area with a blood sea. I was looking for the last enemy, and it turned out it was a lost soul. I found it, or it found me, on a bridge, and I dodged it. It took it at least 30 to 45 seconds to hit the edge of the map, I could barely make it out. It dinked around for a little bit, then charged at me again, taking the same time to get back to me. Then I dodged again, and he went flying past to the other edge of the map. At that point I just kind of felt bad for it. He tried so damn hard, but just couldn't get me, and I missed him twice on his flybys, so I just exited the level. Figured it deserved to live... Or stay dead? Undead? Not sure, just didn't have the heart to blow it up after that. But one thing I can say with certainty, it most certainly was not lost. It knew it wanted to chew my face off, and knew exactly where I was. They just have really bad brakes. Edited May 23, 2021 by Jello 5 Quote Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted May 23, 2021 Sometimes, lost souls end up outside of level geometry. This can happen if a pain elemental spawns them while being too close to a wall (there's code in Boom to fix that), or if the lost soul glides into the void during a charge. Such a lost soul is truly lost, stuck in the void and unable to get back into the "real" part of the game world. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Teo Slayer Posted May 23, 2021 Because Vilearch would sound dumb. Archvile sounds better :P 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
NoXion Posted May 23, 2021 I thought the "arch" but of the name was of a similar root to words like "arch-nemesis", which is what one would call an long-term enemy. Which is fitting because they will forever be vile enemies with their line-of-sight attack and ability to resurrect your foes. "Vile" is also an anagram of "evil", which is also fitting because they will always be evil fuckers. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
lokbustam257 Posted May 23, 2021 would you want them to be called the medic? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
LordEntr0py Posted May 23, 2021 I always figured this inspired the name. Although his whenever I see it written, I think of Arch-Viles 5 Quote Share this post Link to post
Avoozl Posted May 23, 2021 Because they are the vilest of what's considered vile. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Azuris Posted May 23, 2021 13 hours ago, Gez said: That's not actually the same word. -arch as a noun ultimately comes from the Latin "arcus", meaning a bow. Now you know why the practice of shooting a bow is called archery. -arch as a prefix or suffix ultimately comes from the Greek "ἀρχή" (arkhe), meaning rule. So a monarch is someone who rules alone (mon is alone), while an archbishop is the chief of the bishops. So the arch-vile rules over vileness. There you go. Exactly <3 Just as there are Arch Angels. 7 hours ago, Bauul said: A bigger question is how you pronounce it. Is it "arch" like "archbishop", or "ark" like in "archangel"? I have heard both, i personal say Arch as is Archer. In that way it also sounds more as the german Word Arsch, that is Ass /Arse and is what i mostly feel about it :P 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Kyka Posted May 23, 2021 3 hours ago, lokbustam257 said: would you want them to be called the medic? I think you mean "Arch-medic" ..."Medic-Vile?" perhaps ...anyone? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Sunnyfruit Posted May 23, 2021 7 hours ago, Roofi said: Future question : Are lost souls really lost? Given how dumb they are, probably 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
KubaloBlackMT Posted May 23, 2021 I like it, Arch-vile= Chief-Evil 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
KubaloBlackMT Posted May 23, 2021 10 hours ago, Roofi said: Future question : Are lost souls really lost? Adding further, you actually made me remember Lost Souls are technically damned souls by real-life definition, so they used to be human. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
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