Why I left this community.

[RestlessRodent]

Why I left this community.

 

It has been a few years since I last posted. A few weeks ago a prominent person passed away due to bullying and harassment on the internet. I never really talked about why I originally left here, but it was due to this. If you looked at my rank you will see it says "uroFeR mdrat". This is an anagram for "Forum R*tard" and this has been here for years, just one small piece among many. I am an eccentric person, but this has not been deserved at all. It is just a label but one that is painful to have. Why did I leave? Because I do not feel welcome here at all, with all requests to change this rank completely ignored. It might be a fun game to label people with, but there is still a person behind that label. Maybe it was for shits and giggles or for the lolz, maybe it was due to some deep seeded hatred or jealousy. But the end result was the same.

 

I joined August 4, 2005 and you probably know the contributions I have made. I am not a random person begging for attention, but someone who just wants to be heard after so long.

[Endless]

I'm a very recent to this community in comparison to you or pretty much 50% of the rest of the members here, but I know some things have changed.

 

There are good things, there are bad things. Conflict is always born in a community, especially one like Doom where so much has changed over almost 3 decades. I can't speak for everyone, but I like this game, even if I don't always like the community, I can understand that.

 

Still, I don't like humiliation and I don't like ad hominem attacks. I quickly took at glance at your posts on DW and you contributed nicely to this community, leaving a legacy piece that is part of our history. From my words, I'm sorry you had to go through bad times with bad people, and honestly I'm completely surprised with your rank title. It's something I would expect from DW early 2000s, but not this year.

 

You have my support. And I wish you the best. Don't lose faith. There are good people here. I've met great people, and bad people too, but I prefer to focus on those who have helped me grow. I'm sure you will find people who will give you a shoulder to lean on. Or better yet, to grow.

[baja blast rd.]

5 hours ago, Endless said:

honestly I'm completely surprised with your rank title. It's something I would expect from DW early 2000s, but not this year.

 

DW hasn't done that sort of thing (giving insulting rank titles) in a while. 

 

I'll ask about getting some more removed, but I don't want to risk irritating admins by removing more than just this one myself. 

 

5 hours ago, Endless said:

You have my support. And I wish you the best. Don't lose faith. There are good people here. I've met great people, and bad people too, but I prefer to focus on those who have helped me grow. I'm sure you will find people who will give you a shoulder to lean on. Or better yet, to grow.

 

Same. 

[roadworx]

shit, i never realized your status meant that ))):

 

you should know that things are really different around here ever since the update. the old mods are pretty much inactive and have been replaced by people who aren't enormous douchebags - this isn't a somethingawful clone like it used to be, the atmosphere is far more welcoming and accepting than it once was.

[Alfwin]

I'm pretty new to Doomworld; I didn't realize it had been so toxic in the past.  So far, I've never felt unwelcome here - hell, I even feel safe having a Pride flag in my avatar, and clearly I'm not the only one - so I get the impression things have changed significantly for the better.

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

I'm genuinely sorry for the negative impact people on the internet have had on your life, and I agree that title is insulting. I would rather be banned than be officially "promoted" to a retard. 

 

But in the end, when you sign up for a forum, it's like being a guest in a hotel. Most guests have no issues. Some of them get loud and the manager kicks them out for being a nuisance. Some people get kicked out because the manager was having a bad day. There is no way to determine what your host thinks you are deserving of and why. While there may be a rules page, rules aren't entirely objective. When you join a forum, you will always be at the mercy of the people running the forum, and they are humans. Sometimes they have lapses in their moral judgement just like everyone else.

Edited July 18, 2021 by TheMagicMushroomMan

[RestlessRodent]

Thank you, I have had this for so long and now it is finally gone. I do not know if I will be back, maybe I will visit now and then more.

[pcorf]

I think the community is a better place today than it was 10-15 years ago. Just saying. There was a lot of trolling, Gammara wads, Terry wads, the list goes on. I think DW has done a great job to mostly eradicate this over recent years.

 

Also there was a time I was unhappy in my personal life, was bored, unhappy, depressed, and even released rubbish (which I thought as funny) and was also part of this trolling era that got me banned on here because I was totally out of my mind and developed a bad reputation. The only way for me to fix this issue is just imagine nothing bad exists and just start believing in myself, don't respond to bad feedback and just keep on focusing on getting better as a person, be positive as much as possible. I tried to fix that reputation by creating Whispers of Satan and the faults in that wad were a huge turning point for me. I learned so much since then. I'm a totally different person today, still critical in some ways but I have a much more positive approach to things. If I get bad feedback, fine just take it and not trash talk back. I was bullied at times when I was younger and I always stood up to it and always told myself that I am never a quitter. Life is good today, got a son that puts a smile on my face, composing lots of music, have played live quite a few times at some events here in Australia, and still creating new maps.

Edited July 17, 2021 by pcorf

[Biodegradable]

1 hour ago, RestlessRodent said:

I do not know if I will be back, maybe I will visit now and then more.

 

I hope that you do, fam. Such old bullying tactics are a thing of the past. Such bullshit is met with zero tolerance today and DW does its best to foster a much healthier and more pleasant experience. Some people might have an argument here and there, but nothing too nasty. Plus, the staff today are very diligent in keeping things orderly and are quick to snuff out shitstorms before they start.

 

I hope you give us a second chance.

[j4rio]

I'll gladly swap that label with you.

[Doom_Dude]

 

2 hours ago, RestlessRodent said:

I do not know if I will be back, maybe I will visit now and then more.

 

Good to see that you got that label removed. I remember seeing it before but didn't know what it meant. You should stick around and visit more often.

[Sammy J]

I've been playing Doom since 1993, but only recently joined doomworld because I was already building maps. I've found the community to be helpful with constructive criticism that really helps modders. People have been very polite to me, I have no idea what it was like before 2021 though.

[Murdoch]

Concur with the rest of the comments here. The mods are cool and the community on the whole has a pretty low dickhead percentage. I think if you give it a chance, you just might like what you find. Good job whoever removed that stupid rank. It was an extremely petty thing to have done to you.

[deus-ex]

25 minutes ago, Murdoch said:

the community on the whole has a pretty low dickhead percentage.

 

You missed the word "hanging" after "pretty low", my good sir. :)

[Zulk RS]

Damn I had no idea the community was toxic like that when you were around. I joined in 2014 and I have had mostly positive experience on here. The people are nice, the community is chill, the moderators are good at what they do... In my own experience this is one of the more nicest places on the internet. Sorry you had to experience what you did when you were more active in the community.

Edited July 17, 2021 by Zulk RS

[Horus]

Urgh, that rank was awful, makes me angry just seeing it (and much worse for you having been stuck with it for so long). I’m glad it’s now removed, and I hope for the same treatment very promptly if there are any other similar ranks lurking out there.

[Redneckerz]

3 hours ago, RestlessRodent said:

Thank you, I have had this for so long and now it is finally gone. I do not know if I will be back, maybe I will visit now and then more.

As someone who has dedicated himself to the task of recollection and archival with, amongst it, the ReMOOD work you have done including its obscure ports to Windows CE and the work on Chocorenderlimits, i would very much welcome your return back to these premises.

 

You will find that there is more dedication and most importantly, respect for those members who carry a significant legacy for this community. I know i sure am.

 

Whether that be through the WADAZINE by @Endless, to the endless (heh) Cacoward nominations for this year - One can safely tell this community is thriving more than ever before.

 

For whatever it is worth, RestlessRodent - Your line of work and influence has had definitive impact to this community in a significant way.

[hybridial]

For what its worth I hope you do participate in the community more. 

[Antkibo]

That title seems something straight out of SA. Glad they changed it.

[Chopkinsca]

Like others have said, this community has changed since the old days. It wasn't terrible, but I feel it was more wild back then. Maybe it's because the people running things have matured. Good to see it didn't take long at all to get the title changed this time.

Edited July 17, 2021 by Chopkinsca

[printz]

8 hours ago, rd. said:

I'll ask about getting some more removed, but I don't want to risk irritating admins by removing more than just this one myself. 

What? I thought only admins can change custom titles... I know because once I was retitled "... DUMB ..." (instead of "... DOOM ..."); I asked the most recent supermod about it, and he really told me only admins can change titles...

 

[LexiMax]

Good to see you again.  I hope you stick around.

 

This place has gotten a lot better over the past decade, and most of the edgelord-ness on Doomworld has either been grown out of or run out of town on a rail.  I recommend you stick around, you might be surprised.

Edited July 17, 2021 by AlexMax

[Kurogachii]

And that's why you always keep a quality control for moderators, i received 2 Rudeness points by now, one justified and accepted, other because of i was "Mean" for some reason, what's this ¿the my little pony forum? but that's my thought, you deserve more respect man and i'm sorry you had to go through that, i wish you all the best and please stay so we can play more of your stuff!

[Antkibo]

15 minutes ago, Kurogachii said:

And that's why you always keep a quality control for moderators, i received 2 Rudeness points by now, one justified and accepted, other because of i was "Mean" for some reason, what's this ¿the my little pony forum? but that's my thought, you deserve more respect man and i'm sorry you had to go through that, i wish you all the best and please stay so we can play more of your stuff!

TIL there're rudeness points

[baja blast rd.]

37 minutes ago, Kurogachii said:

And that's why you always keep a quality control for moderators, i received 2 Rudeness points by now, one justified and accepted, other because of i was "Mean" for some reason, what's this ¿the my little pony forum? 

 

This is not the place to opportunistically sneak in unrelated grievances about whatever minor infractions you got but disagree with. Comparing these is trivializing the OP's concerns, which current staff really care about. 

 

/tangent 

[Kurogachii]

30 minutes ago, rd. said:

opportunistically sneak

this is a public topic i just gave my opinion and supported the user.

 

30 minutes ago, rd. said:

which current staff really care about.

Sure thing.

Edited July 17, 2021 by Kurogachii

[roadworx]

Just now, Kurogachii said:

this is a public topic i just gave my opinion on supported the user.

 

Sure thing.

man, just stop and admit you messed up, don't make yourself look like an ass...

[Liberation]

9 minutes ago, Kurogachii said:

this is a public topic i just gave my opinion on supported the user.

 

Sure thing.

 

RestlessRodent's concern was a shitty custom title from years ago, not warnings. I've checked your warnings and feel both are justified, you have no real reason to complain about them on this thread.

 

Anyway, lets move along.

[Dark Pulse]

13 hours ago, RestlessRodent said:

Why I left this community.

 

It has been a few years since I last posted. A few weeks ago a prominent person passed away due to bullying and harassment on the internet.

I take it you're talking about byuu/Near, then.

 

I can't say that I know what this place was like way back then, as I wasn't part of it then and was just starting to crawl onto the internet myself, but I'd say a lot of it was culture shock: The late 90s/early 2000s were all about attitudes and the loudest and brashest people got the most attention.

 

Nowadays people are a lot more aware of it, primarily because a lot more people are on social media and are starting to realize just how quickly that can ruin someone. (I'm personally thankful my high school years finished before it really took off.)

 

Whether you come back is up to you, but the forums definitely seem like a different place from what they were back then. Would be curious to see what Ling or the other people who were around at that time and are still floating around have to say though.

 

 

[Steve D]

Wow, so sorry you had to suffer with that title. I'm glad it's been changed. Oddly enough, I never knew of you by name, but I knew your work, because ChocoRenderLimits was a vital aid to me when I was mapping for TNT:Revilution. I literally spent hours and hours in that app killing HOMs and VPOs. I hope you stick around and make even more contributions in the future. :)