i will truly say that DOOM as a whole is Endless

[AnthonyTankHD]

The reason why I say doom is so infinite cause there's a lot of levels made by the community as a whole and mods and stuff for the game like yeah you could try and complete the whole doom trilogy and complete the whole community made Maps and mega-wad but that will take you forever trust me i learned that the hard way i tried to complete the whole thing and want to set a goal in mind and say you know what i want to complete the whole thing and be finish of the whole thing but when in reality when it come to mind and it said yeah you are not going to complete all that you will 80 years old to complete the whole thing since the community keep making stuff for the game, i was like yup i gave up

[Teo Slayer]

Doom isn't endless. It isn't infinite either. It's Eternal

[LadyMistDragon]

Yeah, yeah, we all know Doom is @Endless:p

[out_of_service]

It's often said there are more Doom wads out there than there are grains of sands on all of Earths beaches. Very humbling. Really puts things into perspective you know?

[Li'l devil]

I don't think Doom is unique in this regard, it's just has an advantage of being older and being easier to make custom content for. Besides, for every good wad there are probably 100 mediocre or bad ones. And despite the variety many people will get tired of Doom regardless if they play it for very long. Of course, there are some regulars here that play hundreds of wads per year, but I think in the community as a whole they're exceptional. There were a lot of times when I had a grand plan of playing every classic wad out there... and I always finished one at best. Usually not even one. For me, even one 30 map megawad can become a chore by the end, due to Doom's mostly repetitive gameplay, so I often gave up and played something else, only to never return to the wad.

Edited July 25, 2021 by Li'l devil

[Endless]

There's more Doom WADs than stars in this universe.

 

Facts.

[Azuris]

Doom is the perfect Computer Virus/Parasite.

 

Instead of limiting itself to the Host, it infects a Carrier, namely us Humans.

 

We are so obsessed that we bring Doom to every possible System.

And not only that, we expand it, evolve it and diverse it.

 

[Chopkinsca]

The only reason multiple universes exist is so that all the inevitable Doom wads that are created have space to exist.

[Teo Slayer]

3 hours ago, Li'l devil said:

And despite the variety many people will get tired of Doom regardless if they play it for very long.

That's actually true for every videogame.

[VoanHead]

I wish I had the time to cover all the wads I wanna play, because someone like me who fell down the rabbit hole in 2017 felt like there’s so much to play.

[Doomkid]

On 7/26/2021 at 3:37 AM, Li'l devil said:

I don't think Doom is unique in this regard, it's just has an advantage of being older and being easier to make custom content for. Besides, for every good wad there are probably 100 mediocre or bad ones. And despite the variety many people will get tired of Doom regardless if they play it for very long. Of course, there are some regulars here that play hundreds of wads per year, but I think in the community as a whole they're exceptional. There were a lot of times when I had a grand plan of playing every classic wad out there... and I always finished one at best. Usually not even one. For me, even one 30 map megawad can become a chore by the end, due to Doom's mostly repetitive gameplay, so I often gave up and played something else, only to never return to the wad.

Jeez, this is such an undercut of Doom, the greatness of its gameplay, and the sheer number of and dedication of its modders! How the f are you getting bored after one damn wad?!

 

Doom’s gameplay loop IS great and timeless. It’s usual to be fatigued by Doom’s constant “go go go” nature after an hour or two..  but come the next day I need to hear that shotgun firing and imp dying sound yet again..!
 

This post has undertones of the infamous EDGE review with golden lines such as “IF ONLY YOU COULD TALK TO THOSE CREATURES....”. While that review was intentionally underwhelming to whip up controversy (imo), based on your review, it seems like Doom just doesn’t jive with what you’re after - at least not too much. And that’s fine! But don’t go undercutting the modders or Doom’s legacy as a whole. That’s criminal and I’ll be rounding up the 4 who liked your post and summarily BFGing them.
 

Also, there are plenty of games as old as (or older than) Doom, that are easy as hell to make levels for, and yet few of these games receive even a fraction of the mods..

 

Because those games aren’t DOOM.

[Teo Slayer]

On 7/27/2021 at 11:07 AM, Doomkid said:

Jeez, this is such an undercut of Doom, the greatness of its gameplay, and the sheer number of and dedication of its modders! How the f are you getting bored after one damn wad?!

 

Doom’s gameplay loop IS great and timeless. It’s usual to be fatigued by Doom’s constant “go go go” nature after an hour or two..  but come the next day I need to hear that shotgun firing and imp dying sound yet again..!
 

This post has undertones of the infamous EDGE review with golden lines such as “IF ONLY YOU COULD TALK TO THOSE CREATURES....”. While that review was intentionally underwhelming to whip up controversy (imo), based on your review, it seems like Doom just doesn’t jive with what you’re after - at least not too much. And that’s fine! But don’t go undercutting the modders or Doom’s legacy as a whole. That’s criminal and I’ll be rounding up the 4 who liked your post and summarily BFGing them. Also, there are plenty of games as old as (or older than) Doom, that are easy as hell to make levels for, and yet few of these games receive even a fraction of the mods..

 

Because those games aren’t DOOM.

...

Edited October 8, 2021 by Teo Slayer

[ketmar]

48 minutes ago, Teo Slayer said:

They also said that they would rather play better games than DOOM.

the only game that is better than Doom is Doom.

[Teo Slayer]

3 minutes ago, ketmar said:

the only game that is better than Doom is Doom.

Agree

[Li'l devil]

What's with all this mindless Doom praise? That's elitism, yikes. Why do so many people on this forum think that Doom is an exceptionally good game? I can't believe you all share the exact same opinion, to the point of this being an echo chamber... To have a proper forum discussion we need more people who think that Doom is a bad or mediocre game.

[Kizoky]

9 minutes ago, Li'l devil said:

What's with all this mindless Doom praise? That's elitism, yikes. Why do so many people on this forum think that Doom is an exceptionally good game? I can't believe you all share the exact same opinion, to the point of this being an echo chamber... To have a proper forum discussion we need more people who think that Doom is a bad or mediocre game.

Why is the wind whooshing so hard today?

[TheNoob_Gamer]

10 minutes ago, Li'l devil said:

What's with all this mindless Doom praise?

You do you, really. Coming into a game community and then expecting most people to NOT like the game itself is a bit strange.

While I can understand your view of Doom's gameplay (I previously quitted Doom for almost half a year myself, and even now I probably won't return in full swing as I was before), having a lot of faults that haven't stood the test of time (e.g the shotgun deals mediocre DPS with most mobs); it is not that repetitive and feel like a matter of subjectivity that is best not discussed here.

Edited July 27, 2021 by TheNoob_Gamer

[ketmar]

27 minutes ago, Li'l devil said:

What's with all this mindless Doom praise?

i just heard that they can give you moderator rights for doing that.

Edited July 27, 2021 by ketmar

[Teo Slayer]

On 7/27/2021 at 12:21 PM, Li'l devil said:

What's with all this mindless Doom praise? That's elitism, yikes. Why do so many people on this forum think that Doom is an exceptionally good game? I can't believe you all share the exact same opinion, to the point of this being an echo chamber... To have a proper forum discussion we need more people who think that Doom is a bad or mediocre game.

...

Edited October 8, 2021 by Teo Slayer

[Liberation]

1 hour ago, ketmar said:

i just heard that they can give you moderator rights for doing that.

 

Alas that would be too easy.
 

1 hour ago, Li'l devil said:

What's with all this mindless Doom praise? That's elitism, yikes. Why do so many people on this forum think that Doom is an exceptionally good game? I can't believe you all share the exact same opinion, to the point of this being an echo chamber... To have a proper forum discussion we need more people who think that Doom is a bad or mediocre game.

 

Yep, we all know Doom is shit and we keep flogging the dead horse just to cover up the very secret truth that we are all... William Shatner's TekWar fans.

 

Phew.. Feels good to finally let the truth be known. oh, who's that banging on my door...  

[CBM]

1 hour ago, Li'l devil said:

What's with all this mindless Doom praise? That's elitism, yikes. Why do so many people on this forum think that Doom is an exceptionally good game? I can't believe you all share the exact same opinion, to the point of this being an echo chamber... To have a proper forum discussion we need more people who think that Doom is a bad or mediocre game.

For what it is and has become, Doom is truly epic... however... I would have hoped that engines like GZDoom could take it a step further and combine stuff from newer id tech engines... Imagine a GZDoom that could also be used to run all Quake 2 based games... With support for BSP, then we would be most of the way there in regards to GZDoom... But the devs refuse.

 

If I ever finish GZFreeDOOM then I might have to fork GZDoom to make sure it doesnt get stuck in the past.

[ketmar]

11 minutes ago, CBM said:

then I might have to fork GZDoom to make sure it doesnt get stuck in the past

epic.

[Murdoch]

2 hours ago, Li'l devil said:

What's with all this mindless Doom praise? That's elitism, yikes. Why do so many people on this forum think that Doom is an exceptionally good game? I can't believe you all share the exact same opinion, to the point of this being an echo chamber... To have a proper forum discussion we need more people who think that Doom is a bad or mediocre game.

 

Is this a troll? I honestly can't tell.

[omx32x]

2 hours ago, Li'l devil said:

What's with all this mindless Doom praise? That's elitism, yikes. Why do so many people on this forum think that Doom is an exceptionally good game? I can't believe you all share the exact same opinion, to the point of this being an echo chamber... To have a proper forum discussion we need more people who think that Doom is a bad or mediocre game.

because people who think a game is bad or mediocre will not join a forum to talk about it unless they are the last of us fans aparentely since their reddit is dedicated entirely to hate the game

[omx32x]

22 minutes ago, Murdoch said:

 

Is this a troll? I honestly can't tell.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law

probaly a troll though

[Horus]

21 minutes ago, Murdoch said:

 

Is this a troll? I honestly can't tell.

 

The pattern of posting behaviour from this member points very strongly towards a troll

[Murdoch]

1 minute ago, Horus said:

 

The pattern of posting behaviour from this member points very strongly towards a troll

 

Good to know. Because otherwise... yikes.

[omx32x]

1 hour ago, Teo Slayer said:

It's because DOOM is the game that wrote a history. It was the game which inspired many videogame companies. The FPS genre exists thanks to DOOM. Also, it's full of fast-action and it's what it makes the game look badass and awesome. The combat, the lore, the protagonist, everything is perfect in that game, it feels like going on an epic and dangerous adventure. To finish this message, DOOM is Eternal

i always found it weird how people credit the FPS genre to doom or wolfenstein

 

i mean i love these games but i always saw as a bit naive to say that no one would stick a camera to the head of a character and give him a gun if it wasnt for them what i think doom deservers credit for is the creation of common place elements on fps games and the creation of the movement shooter

[Biodegradable]

Thanks to the community continuing to push out a steady stream of new content, even after 20 years, you could realistically play Doom for the rest of your life and never see it all. That fact alone is an utterly remarkable achievement.

[Doomkid]

Trolling? This is pretty tame (like, G rated) if indeed Lil Devil is trolling. It's so lite/harmless that I find it hard to even qualify, really. Maybe intentional ruffling of feathers at worst.

 

I thought it would be obvious I was hamming it up a bit with the "I'll round up the people who liked your post and BFG them" bit, but it really should be no surprise that a Doom forum is an echo chamber about Doom. That's what it's for, after all.