spineapple tea Posted August 1, 2021 Bold of you to assume nobody likes them without any evidence. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post
Firedust Posted August 1, 2021 I'd like them a lot more if you could kill them with one shotgun blast 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Skronkidonk Posted August 1, 2021 I like Pain Elementals thanks to @DCG Retrowave But I HATE lost souls, they just suck 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Biz! Posted August 2, 2021 How could you hate them, they're so cute! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Zirtonic Posted August 2, 2021 Lost Souls are, without any inkling of doubt, my least favorite enemy. They're frustrating to fight, annoying to listen to, and when placed in large groups can drastically increase the total kill count which I often find demoralizing if the map is decently large. I know they don't count in the stats but I think we've all taken more than enough accidental rocket punches to the face when one charges either at us or (more irritatingly) by us because it's infighting something else so I'm not going to leave them roaming around. Pain Elementals are also annoying but I can respect the complexity they can add to a fight. Lost Souls add nothing but exasperation. I'll give them minor points for sometimes making me giggle when they start spam attacking one another and also because I sometimes leave pick ups on the ground so I can watch them stop themselves mid-dash because they can't figure out how to get around a health bonus. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Thrustpeak Posted August 2, 2021 I think I wouldn't hate them as much if not for the sound they make. I feel like the primary reason to kill them is just to shut them up. Though, as others have mentioned, I greatly appreciate it when a wad cranks their hp down. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
The_Trve_Raith Posted August 2, 2021 Lost Souls would be fine if they had less health. 2 shotgun blasts is far too much for an enemy that small. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Doomkid Posted August 2, 2021 “One more SSG blast, one more dead Lost Soul”. It’s perfection. The balance and the rhythm tuned like a fine science. But you know how it goes. High art is simply lost on some people! *adjusts monocle* ..I simply don’t want to think of a world without Lost Souls. Those of you who want to take these defenceless skullfaces and make them even more helpless by reducing their already meager strength are a particular brand of cruel..! I suppose you also wish the zombie enemy types were unarmed, since their hitscan weapons don’t agree with the player’s sensitive skin! Heck, why don’t we neuter all the enemies from being able to defend themselves while we’re at it. I suppose some of you sickos would even be the types to make mods which reduce the health of all enemies.. What kind of sicko would do a thing like that?? 15 Quote Share this post Link to post
omx32x Posted August 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Doomkid said: “One more SSG blast, one more dead Lost Soul”. It’s perfection. The balance and the rhythm tuned like a fine science. But you know how it goes. High art is simply lost on some people! *adjusts monocle* ..I simply don’t want to think of a world without Lost Souls. Those of you who want to take these defenceless skullfaces and make them even more helpless by reducing their already meager are a particular brand of cruel..! I suppose you also wish the zombie enemy types were unarmed, since their hitscan weapons don’t agree with the player’s sensitive skin! thats my new favorite copypasta 5 Quote Share this post Link to post
Loud Silence Posted August 2, 2021 If you dare to call me nobody, i will dare to laugh in your face when you'll will get killed by Lovely... i mean Lost Souls. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
roadworx Posted August 2, 2021 48 minutes ago, Doomkid said: “One more SSG blast, one more dead Lost Soul” unless it's doom 1, in which case git fukd 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Syn Posted August 2, 2021 Lost souls? Those are fine. It's Pain Elementals you should be hating with a passion. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Steve D Posted August 2, 2021 Over the years, I've learned to love Lost Souls. They are the most dynamic enemy in Doom. What other enemy comes at you in a shallow dive and then bounces off the floor if it misses you? You'll never see that from a bunch of stumble-bum Hell Knights and Barons! Lost Souls are also the most intellectual monsters in Doom. What do you suppose they're thinking about when they hang at the edge of the map, beyond auto-aim range, while you wait to see what they'll do next? Perhaps something mundane, like what to put on their shopping list, or maybe they're working out the details of Ekpyrotic Theory. We'll never know because we can't speak in their exalted language of shrieking and squawking. No joking here; I've found that I can improve my maps by replacing Barons with 6 Lost Souls. Yes, 6 Lost Souls for every Baron removed. Oh, how sweet it is! :) 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
LexiMax Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doomkid said: I suppose some of you sickos would even be the types to make mods which reduce the health of all enemies.. What kind of sicko would do a thing like that?? Good idea! Next let's take away the Spectre's invisibility, invisible demons are bullshit. Also nix the Revenant's homing missile attack, it's not fair. Halve the fire-rate of the chaingunner too, plus give their bullets distance damage falloff, because getting sniped from across the map isn't fair either. Maybe make it so breaking LOS with an attacking Arch-vile makes the attack miss even if it can see you afterwards. Plus allow monsters to retaliate against them. Speaking of retaliation, let's just allow same-species to infight, makes no sense that only the hitscanners can do it, right? While we're at it, modify the stock MAP30 map so the elevator stops at the correct height for a clean shot into the brain. Finally, if someone tries to shoot you with a Super Shotgun in a deathmatch, they get teleported to that dead-end teleporter exit by the lava in Quake DM4. Spoiler This post is a joke, but admit it, how many of these made you stop and think "Hey, that's actually not a bad idea.." before realizing it was a joke? 😛 Edited August 2, 2021 by AlexMax 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
roadworx Posted August 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, AlexMax said: While we're at it, modify the stock MAP30 map so the elevator stops at the correct height for a clean shot into the brain. this but unironically 5 Quote Share this post Link to post
leodoom85 Posted August 2, 2021 5 hours ago, Mr. Robutt said: but truth be told just use the rocket launcher and you'll be fiiiiiiiiiiine. "Real men don't look at explosions when lost souls flies to you like a Formula 1 car and dies" You can say all you want about pain elementals but, lost souls alone and at most situations (and, with a little help from dumb actions of the player) can piss you off for free. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Denim Destroyer Posted August 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Doomkid said: I suppose some of you sickos would even be the types to make mods which reduce the health of all enemies.. What kind of sicko would do a thing like that?? Time to make a mod that reduces the health of all enemies by half and doubles the damage of all weapons. Doom will finally be balanced. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
HavoX Posted August 2, 2021 9 hours ago, forgettablepyromaniac said: annoying mosquitos. Hey, you think you have it bad? Ask me about GNATS. Killed fucking three of them today. IN MY ROOM. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
FranziskaVonCaco Posted August 2, 2021 i hate them too especialy in like sigil or something at least they arent as loud in doom 1 as they are in doom eternal or doom2016 that was like a lot worse lmao. i still hate em in doom 1 tho. doom 2 on the other hand it has the pain elementals. and it feels good to take those down 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
FranziskaVonCaco Posted August 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, Denim Destroyer said: Time to make a mod that reduces the health of all enemies by half and doubles the damage of all weapons. Doom will finally be balanced. lol no- 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
CBM Posted August 2, 2021 they are no caco demons... but who are? however, they have their role to fill 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
leodoom85 Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Denim Destroyer said: Time to make a mod that reduces the health of all enemies by half and doubles the damage of all weapons. Doom will finally be balanced. What about leaving it at 25 HP but the speed of the flying attack is tripled and attacks as aggressively as the Doom 64 counterpart?. Balanced >:) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Doomkid Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Denim Destroyer said: Time to make a mod that reduces the health of all enemies by half and doubles the damage of all weapons. Doom will finally be balanced. Supreme balance! In all honesty, that can make super densely populated maps absurdly fun.. Despite my deriding of the idea earlier, I made some mods (De-Grinder, mainly) that pretty much meets that description. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Grazza Posted August 2, 2021 29 minutes ago, GarrettChan said: I guess I'm a nobody. You may also like this T-shirt. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
GarrettChan Posted August 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, Grazza said: You may also like this T-shirt. Wait, I didn't get this reference. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Grazza Posted August 2, 2021 "Nobody likes lost souls". "I do!" "Everybody was kung fu fighting." "I wasn't!" "You're all individuals." "I'm not!" 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
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