doom guy66 Posted August 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Chip said: What is a Plutonia? Well the word plutonia means something associated with hell 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
sh-h-h Posted August 3, 2021 15 hours ago, Xaser said: They're all portmanteaus with "evil", nothin' fancier than that: Evolution -> Evilution Devolution -> Devilution Revolution -> Revilution Just some fun wordplay. Devilution also having "devil" in the name is just the icing on the cake. :P Similar pattern should have been used for the other side of Final Doom, like: Plutonia Experiment Neptunia Experiment Urania Experiment 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted August 3, 2021 37 minutes ago, sh-h-h said: Plutonia Experiment Neptunia Experiment Urania Experiment But then you'd get an epic flamewar about whether it should be Aluminia Experiment or Alumina Experiment... 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
printz Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) Plutonia Experiment sounds like "science deal with the devil", pretty common in the Doom games. It's probably using some plutonium in this case, hence the name. I would guess Plutonia is a code name or brand name. I wish they used it more inside the levels... you can totally forget the Plutonia story as you play the IWAD... I'm not sure I trust all these TNT: Evilution sequels as legit... Do they have any connection with the original IWAD? Any common authors? Any guidance from the original's authors? Just trying to replicate the layout style doesn't cut it... it was vague enough in TNT.WAD. Edited August 3, 2021 by printz 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, printz said: Plutonia Experiment sounds like "science deal with the devil", repeated in DOOM3. It's probably using plutonium in this case. I wish they used it more as a gimmick... you can totally forget it's there as you play the IWAD... The story goes that the Plutonia Experiment was using "quantum accelerators" to remotely shut down hell portals as soon as they opened. The demons managed to prevail anyway by opening a lot of portals at once to overwhelm it. But then the Plutonia story is kinda weird. They went through a first storyline which involved time travel, and rewrote it. But despite being only two and siblings living in the same home, there was apparently some communication breakdown, because the first text screens says something about needing to find the remaining prototype quantum accelerator to stop the invasion: You must find the prototype, or all your struggles will have been wasted. Keep moving, keep fighting, keep killing. Oh yes, keep living, too. But then the second text screen says that you destroy it. WTF. Even the deadly Arch-Vile labyrinth could not stop you, and you've gotten to the prototype Accelerator which is soon efficiently and permanently deactivated. You're good at that kind of thing. What's wrong with you, Plutoniaguy? You didn't want the megawad to end at MAP11? It seems like the manual's story is written from the perspective that the Plutonia Experiment and its quantum accelerators are about getting a way to close Hell portals (presumably so as to resume the teleportation business without being so rudely interrupted by demon invasions) while the text screens are written from the perspective they're about opening Hell portals. Edited August 3, 2021 by Gez 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Teo Slayer Posted August 3, 2021 Evilution Revilution Devilution Pancakilution CocaColilution Bananilution Doomilution Abomilution ilution ilu i Idk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Devalaous Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, sh-h-h said: Neptunia Experiment You dont know what force you are about to unleash on the Doom community 1 hour ago, printz said: I'm not sure I trust all these TNT: Evilution sequels as legit... Do they have any connection with the original IWAD? Any common authors? Any guidance from the original's authors? Just trying to replicate the layout style doesn't cut it... it was vague enough in TNT.WAD. TNT2 as a whole had the blessing of Ty Halderman, I recall seeing an email from him confirming it. Revilution does have a TeamTNT member in its credits too. I don't know if Plutonia's sequels ever had the blessing of the Casali brothers though. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
P41R47 Posted August 3, 2021 8 hours ago, sh-h-h said: Neptunia Experiment oh, this will be funny for sure. Kinda like H-Doom while playing Kama Sutra. Would love to see something like that :D 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
SilverMiner Posted August 4, 2021 IMO, Devilution is a name of some private project where some guys decided that a community project, a mixed bag of maps of different styles and authors, Evilution, has its strict and unique theme; and their goal is to make a sequel to that one according to some kind of style of TNT.WAD that they somehow managed to define. I'm sure that the style they defined is pretty strict, otherwise there won't be that many rejects that was enough to build standalone megawads out of them. Maybe their style is gonna be like "brown techbases + something" but what I'd expect of a TNT-styled wad is the maps that have some vibes of Crater, Carribbean, Mill, Habitat, Mount Pain, map25 and Heck. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
1Destro3456 Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/2/2021 at 12:50 PM, Xaser said: They're all portmanteaus with "evil", nothin' fancier than that: Evolution -> Evilution Devolution -> Devilution Revolution -> Revilution Just some fun wordplay. Devilution also having "devil" in the name is just the icing on the cake. :P Now I feel dumb for not noticing the evil on each of those names 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Soundblock Posted August 6, 2021 On 8/3/2021 at 12:15 PM, Teo Slayer said: Idk ComPort2Lution? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Teo Slayer Posted August 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Soundblock said: ComPort2Lution? Em, Gopnilution? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Kristian Nebula Posted August 6, 2021 TNT666: Convolution , made entirely of more and more difficult mazes. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
TheMagicMushroomMan Posted August 6, 2021 Just now, Teo Slayer said: Wait, perfect idea CUMILUTION Damn, son! Perfect idea for an HDoom addon maybe. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted August 6, 2021 Devilution is an example of Devilopment Hell. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
LadyMistDragon Posted August 6, 2021 On 8/4/2021 at 3:28 AM, SilverMiner said: IMO, Devilution is a name of some private project where some guys decided that a community project, a mixed bag of maps of different styles and authors, Evilution, has its strict and unique theme; and their goal is to make a sequel to that one according to some kind of style of TNT.WAD that they somehow managed to define. I'm sure that the style they defined is pretty strict, otherwise there won't be that many rejects that was enough to build standalone megawads out of them. Maybe their style is gonna be like "brown techbases + something" but what I'd expect of a TNT-styled wad is the maps that have some vibes of Crater, Carribbean, Mill, Habitat, Mount Pain, map25 and Heck. Caribbean...the map that was basically anything but. Like, throw in some jungle textures and all of a sudden you're in the...ah hell no. That was not very fun/ To answer the original question, I think I'm going to quote the totally real and most certainly most respected singer of all, Teddy Pedder. I'm ahead I'm a demon I'm the first evil dude to declare war, yeah I'm at peace with homicide I can butcher because in Satan I trust, yeah! It's devilution baby!! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
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