Bethesda Doom Add-Ons

[princetontiger]

How does Bethesda select these maps? I searched, but couldn't find an answer.

[Gez]

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Official_add-ons

 

 

[Chip]

I don't think you searched enough. I recommend heading over to the Console Doom forum. not only is there the Unity Port that Gez linked for you, but there are several other topics there. If you have a suggestion for the Unity Port, Check out The Doom Unity Wad suggestion Thread. Sponge, who adds the add-ons to the port follows that thread, and might have used some suggestions from there, so it's certainly worth it. 

[Gez]

Note that I didn't link just to the thread, but to three specific posts where sponge explains precisely the hows and whys of his selections.

Edited August 21, 2021 by Gez

[princetontiger]

Thx... so it's still a mysterious and dark art. Cool.

[CBM]

so what, bethesda wants to earn money selling other peoples doom mods now, mods they made available for free or what?

[Chip]

1 minute ago, CBM said:

so what, bethesda wants to earn money selling other peoples doom mods now, mods they made available for free or what?

they've been doing it for over a year now, and it's free to download. 

[CBM]

2 minutes ago, Chip said:

they've been doing it for over a year now, and it's free to download. 

bethesda never changes

[D4NUK1]

5 minutes ago, CBM said:

so what, bethesda wants to earn money selling other peoples doom mods now, mods they made available for free or what?

They use curated .wads that can be played in others platforms well, it's possible for the game to run, and not inflict with copyright or  models from other games. They are also free to download, they just make more accessibility to more people to play more Doom without requiring others ways.

 

Also, they are wide acceptance in the community. If you want to bring you drama about corporation stuff, i recommend you looking for another thread.

Edited August 21, 2021 by D4NUK1

[Kinsie]

There's basically an archive of curated mods for free download within the Unity Doom port, allowing console players to enjoy our unique perspective on fair Chaingunner placement where they otherwise would be unable to.

[D4NUK1]

1 minute ago, Kinsie said:

There's basically an archive of curated mods for free download within the Unity Doom port, allowing console players to enjoy our unique perspective on fair Chaingunner placement where they otherwise would be unable to.

They even do Total Conversions REKKR being the example.

[Redneckerz]

55 minutes ago, CBM said:

so what, bethesda wants to earn money selling other peoples doom mods now, mods they made available for free or what?

It is curated free content. The reason for that is that they will look for current authors to select their work for the port (Roughly around 2011 or so), also since the older mapsets have authors that are inactive or deceased.

51 minutes ago, CBM said:

bethesda never changes

It was just told that its curated free content. Why maintain the argument that Bethesda wants to earn money selling other people's mods when that is objectively untrue?

[princetontiger]

I'm playing thru them... I actually did not know about syringe or earthless. Both are excellent.

 

I think it's smart that bethesda does this... especially for new users.

[Mr Masker]

yeah despite not playing the unity port much I like that console users can access doom megawads, even if that access is smaller and more curated than on pc source ports.

[msx2plus]

30 minutes ago, Redneckerz said:

objectively untrue?

i don't think it's quite so cut and dry in that these mods being easily accessible is a selling point for these ports, which will drive more sales to be certain. i'm not sure how compensation goes for the authors they (presumably) license from, but i hope it's reasonable.

[princetontiger]

30 years later, the community maps keep me playing Doom.

 

I have a super mario bros 2 bender nes every 3-4 years because that game is fantastic.

 

I can't name a game from the 80s/90s/00s that I still play... but doom? heck yes.

Edited August 21, 2021 by princetontiger

[CBM]

1 hour ago, Redneckerz said:

It is curated free content. The reason for that is that they will look for current authors to select their work for the port (Roughly around 2011 or so), also since the older mapsets have authors that are inactive or deceased.

It was just told that its curated free content. Why maintain the argument that Bethesda wants to earn money selling other people's mods when that is objectively untrue?

well, bethesda have done this in the past with fallout and eldar scroll mods, so I figured they were back to their old tricks... I am just glad I was wrong

[Redneckerz]

20 hours ago, msx2plus said:

i don't think it's quite so cut and dry in that these mods being easily accessible is a selling point for these ports, which will drive more sales to be certain. i'm not sure how compensation goes for the authors they (presumably) license from, but i hope it's reasonable.

Sponge would know, but i guess that's under NDA. And maybe just credit is enough too. Often they get accompanied by Slayer Club interviews - Jimmy even had two of those. So who knows.

 

Personally i think its beyond cool that a major studio recognizes its past works this way. It also makes inclusion for the Unity port more of a seal of approval/award that says: ''The people at id consider this epic enough to include.''

19 hours ago, CBM said:

well, bethesda have done this in the past with fallout and eldar scroll mods, so I figured they were back to their old tricks... I am just glad I was wrong

What would give you the idea? Doom isn't Fallout or Elder Scrolls, which is Todd Howard.

[CBM]

2 hours ago, Redneckerz said:

Sponge would know, but i guess that's under NDA. And maybe just credit is enough too. Often they get accompanied by Slayer Club interviews - Jimmy even had two of those. So who knows.

 

Personally i think its beyond cool that a major studio recognizes its past works this way. It also makes inclusion for the Unity port more of a seal of approval/award that says: ''The people at id consider this epic enough to include.''

What would give you the idea? Doom isn't Fallout or Elder Scrolls, which is Todd Howard.

id isnt id anymore either, none of the original guys are still at id software afaik

 

anyway, glad that I was wrong so lets leave it at that... I consider this matter closed now

[Chip]

Just now, CBM said:

none of the original guys are still at id software afaik

No, none of the original guys are.

 

But this gal's still there

[dmslr]

Kevin Cloud, guys. He's still at id.

[Gez]

14 minutes ago, CBM said:

id isnt id anymore either, none of the original guys are still at id software afaik

Kevin Cloud's still there.

 

He was even the lead designer for "Doom 4 1.0".

Edited August 22, 2021 by Gez

[D4NUK1]

20 minutes ago, CBM said:

id isnt id anymore either, none of the original guys are still at id software afaik

 

 

I really dislike that way of trinking, because many that are working in iD Software at the moment, are more capable to bring better stuff and work care, that older iD can do. 

[Chip]

12 minutes ago, dmslr said:

Kevin Cloud, guys. He's still at id.

Damn. forgot about him. 

 

Also, should this topic be closed? We've already answered the OP's question. 

[dmslr]

Just now, Chip said:

Also, should this topic be closed? We've already answered the OP's question. 

Topic will die if you won't reply.

[CBM]

8 hours ago, D4NUK1 said:

I really dislike that way of trinking, because many that are working in iD Software at the moment, are more capable to bring better stuff and work care, that older iD can do. 

The last couple of doom games are really nice, no doubt about that. But no doom game will ever match Doom 2 in replayability.

 

[jmac]

On 8/21/2021 at 2:42 PM, princetontiger said:

I'm playing thru them... I actually did not know about syringe or earthless. Both are excellent.

 

I think it's smart that bethesda does this... especially for new users.

I love the unity port. Most of the my time spent playing doom is on my PC, but I have the unity port on my Switch. As limited as the wad selection still is, it lets me play doom on the go. I also use it as a tool to try to coax friends and family into playing doom, so I have people IRL to talk about it with.