TNT Evilution Map 15: Dead Zone question

[Alfonso]

Ok, does anyone know where's the megasphere in this map on UV coop?

I know two items can be found in an only Deathmach area but i can't find this supposed megasphere according to the doom wiki.

Is out of bounds? In a super secret room?

Also what's the point of making items accesible only deathmatch? It ruins me and my friend 100% run.

I'll be grateful if you solve me this mystery.

[galileo31dos01]

Looking at the map in an editor, the multiplayer megasphere is in the rightmost marble room next to the single player ammo cache, and it becomes accessible only if there's a forth player active, because the line special that reveals the mega is in the player 4 starting cubicle, so you'll have to enable cheats and noclip to the mega (or the line), or invite two more players. 

[Alfonso]

7 minutes ago, galileo31dos01 said:

Looking at the map in an editor, the multiplayer megasphere is in the rightmost marble room next to the single player ammo cache, and it becomes accessible only if there's a forth player active, because the line special that reveals the mega is in the player 4 starting cubicle, so you'll have to enable cheats and noclip to the mega (or the line), or invite two more players. 

Thanks, i would never realized that.

I think the wiki should mention it.

I still think is pretty dumb to make it like that.

Also does a way exist to reach the items in the deathmatch starts while playing coop?

Same with the 4 armors bonuses in single player starting room during a deathmatch session.

[Gez]

The only ways I see are editing the map or using noclip.

[Maximum Matt]

Also, isn't there like two cacos that can't be alerted and never come over the wall to attack, and you can't get 100% kills either?

I liked Dead Zone, mainly because the secret exit is right near the start and you can finish the map in like twenty seconds :-)

[Budoka]

9 hours ago, Maximum Matt said:

Also, isn't there like two cacos that can't be alerted and never come over the wall to attack, and you can't get 100% kills either?

I liked Dead Zone, mainly because the secret exit is right near the start and you can finish the map in like twenty seconds :-)

A Caco and a Pain Elemental, and strictly speaking it is possible to wake them up. I wouldn't waste my time trying to make it happen, but if you want to see that in action it's covered in decino's walkthrough.

[Maximum Matt]

Ah really?  I'm still thinking of Big Mac Davis' one, where he says it's impossible - I'll have to check that out then!!! Thanks!

[Alfonso]

On 9/12/2021 at 12:47 AM, Maximum Matt said:

Ah really?  I'm still thinking of Big Mac Davis' one, where he says it's impossible - I'll have to check that out then!!! Thanks!

 

[Maximum Matt]

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[Alfonso]

You could also play it with GZDoom and the sector with the enemies will raise.