Carnifex Posted September 11, 2021 Entryway for me because of nostalgia. Doom II was my first gaming experience in the 90s. Like others have said here the stairs in the beginning are iconic and seared into my memory. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post
ReaperAA Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) EDIT: Oops, I already commented on this thread. Delete this plz. Edited September 12, 2021 by ReaperAA 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Doomkid Posted September 12, 2021 I agree with the overall gist of your post @Apprentice, though having played both in DM a fair bit, the shareware version of Hangar is really boring and lame in DM, but the UD version is at least “pretty decent”. Granted, that’s just DM, I can see how it would be considered broken in its final state for SP. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
Toad Posted September 12, 2021 Definitely Hangar. Hangar is more iconic and more fun than Entryway. Also the music of Hangar is much better than Entryway, but that may be because I've the Entryway midi a thousand times. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Nikku4211 Posted September 12, 2021 Entryway is pretty boring, at least Hangar has a more interesting layout. Entryway looks pretty boring, too, showing a general trend of Doom 2 IWAD levels using too much brown. Entryway's pretty cool for deathmatch, though, but I'm glad the first levels of mapsets made for DWANGO build upon it to make even better deathmatch maps. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
UAC guy Posted September 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Doomkid said: The shareware version of Hangar is really boring and lame in DM, but the UD version is at least “pretty decent”. the shareware and UD e1m1 have different deathmatch item placement? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Apprentice Posted September 12, 2021 Here is how I believe E1M1 will play better in deathmatch then what we got with version 1.9. It may not be perfect but still it's my take on how it can be improved for deathmatch. I do like to know your thoughts about it . . . APP_E1M1_DDM.ZIP 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
LadyMistDragon Posted September 12, 2021 "Running From Evil" is objectively better than "At Doom's Gate" (come on, it's not like E1M1 replacements are non-existent) but Hanger is the more the iconic, fun map. Entryway has Sandy Petersen's usual approach to color, and thusly hands the crown to Hanger without hardly trying (other than the opening room, which was ripped for Doom 64's Staging Area). 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Doomkid Posted September 13, 2021 14 hours ago, UAC guy said: the shareware and UD e1m1 have different deathmatch item placement? Yep! The main difference is in the shareware version, there's a rocket launcher in the outside nukage pool (with the blue armor) and a shotgun in the secret area of the zig-zag nukage room. If you spawn in the blue carpet area at the start, you have to run all the way to the opposite ends of the map for a gun, and if there's 2-3 other people playing as well, it means you're probably dead. Nothing to defend yourself with but the lame pea shooter.. Also, there's only one path from the start of the map to the end of the map. In the UD version, there's a shotgun in the blue carpet room, and there's a switch opening a door to the outside area, so you can also get the RL quickly, or if the opponent is already outside, you can take the other "normal" path through the computer room. It makes the map way better having multiple paths to choose and not having to run around forever with the pea shooter. 12 hours ago, Apprentice said: Here is how I believe E1M1 will play better in deathmatch then what we got with version 1.9. It may not be perfect but still it's my take on how it can be improved for deathmatch. I do like to know your thoughts about it . . . APP_E1M1_DDM.ZIP This looks like it would flow really smoothly in DM. It's basically what Dwango5 Map01 is to Entryway. Allows players to do a complete circuit rather than coming to dead ends! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Argent Agent Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) For Single-Player/Coop/Survival: Hangar For Deathmatch/Duel: Entryway (only because Hangar and Doom/Ultimate Doom has no SSG and less weapon variety) Edited September 13, 2021 by Argent Agent 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
DynamiteKaitorn Posted September 13, 2021 All rise for the national anthem of first-time mappers: *insert D_RUNNIN here* On a serous note, I personally vote D2's Entryway as I love how well the map is designed and the bounty of secret goodies inside. :3 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
Biz! Posted September 13, 2021 Doom II was most likely made for people who already played through Doom, or at least the Shareware 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
bfredric Posted September 14, 2021 Uhhhhh Hangar vs ANY OTHER MAP is gonna be a tough one for me. Poor Entryway. Deserved better. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
HLRaven Posted September 14, 2021 Entryway, while Hanger has a better layout, Entryway starts with a chainsaw and gets you an easy Rocket Launcher! ...that and it's music is a banger 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Maximum Matt Posted September 14, 2021 Funny, nobody has noticed the male/female connotations of the map names yet 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
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