What makes a good teleport puzzle

[Master O]

20 minutes ago, Stupid Bunny said:

I dunno, the problem with most teleport puzzles is that they just amount to memory games.  I don't like the one in TNT MAP30 or the one in E3M7 or any of the other ones I've seen.  I guess telefrag puzzles can be cool, because there actually might be a real puzzle of some kind and the payoff is you get to squash a cyberdemon or something.

 

Regarding the one in TNT MAP30, at least in GZDoom and most source ports, if you open the automap, it'll show you which blocks to walk on in order to avoid getting gibbed.

[ChestedArmor]

The best teleporter puzzles are optional, because they're like kids; not everybodys thing.

Jokes aside, I am scarred by too many bad tele-puzzles, I'd be happy to encounter one that isn't a chore to get through.

[magicsofa]

This making me want to start a community project based called "Oops! All teleport puzzles!"

[Master O]

2 minutes ago, magicsofa said:

This making me want to start a community project based called "Oops! All teleport puzzles!"

 

Here's a good name for it:

 

The Trouble with Teleporters

[Stupid Bunny]

1 hour ago, Master O said:

 

Regarding the one in TNT MAP30, at least in GZDoom and most source ports, if you open the automap, it'll show you which blocks to walk on in order to avoid getting gibbed.

True, but even then, I’m just circumventing the intended design and zigging around with the automap on, which still means I’m not really having fun with it.

 

@ChestedArmor you’re right, there, I think they could be a lot more fun as a way to an optional area or a secret, if one is so inclined. Because even a well-designed teleport puzzle is likely to feel like a brick wall stopping all action in its tracks if it’s the only way to get to the end of the map.

[7Mahonin]

The best teleport puzzle is in one of the DWANGO maps. You can travel these teleports to go around the whole map; but smart players learn that the walls surrounding the teleports can be opened, and lead you into hidden rooms that take you around the whole map, behind the walls where nobody can see you, but you can see them and usually survive without worry. Even the worst aim-bot like hacks online can’t prepare themselves for that when they don’t understand the secret teleport puzzle.