[Community Project] Thirty Monsters Challenge [See you in the other thread!]

[dac]

 

UPDATE : RELEASE CANDIDATE ONE!

Map List:

 

EPISODE 1 - FUN

MAP01 : 'Obsidian Ravine' by @Walter confetti

MAP02 : 'Trapped in Remnants' by @RastaManGames

MAP03 : 'Caco by Caco' by @Origamyde

MAP04 : 'Crate Processing' by @lokbustam257

MAP05 : 'Ursine Complex' by @Death Bear

MAP06 : 'Recharging Station' by @Worst

MAP07 : 'Descending Down' by @tib_

MAP08 : 'Make Peace Not War' by @JaySmithen

MAP09 : 'Sea of Wonders' by @LPad

MAP10 : 'Blueberry Castle' by @DynamiteKaitorn

MAP11 : 'Azure Crypt' by @MFG38

MAP12 : 'Dystrophia' by @Scorpius

MAP13 : 'Charlie Was Here' by @LPad

MAP14 : 'Vile Keep' by @ryiron

MAP15 : 'Pitted Iron' by @Obsidian

MAP16 : 'The Frozen Church' by @SleepyCat

MAP17 : 'Dismal Twilight' by @NeedHealth

MAP18 : 'Demon Electrica' by @Bri

 

EPISODE 2 - TRICKY

MAP19 : 'Cadence' by @Chainie

MAP20 : 'Blu-Ray Pain' by @cannonball

MAP21 : 'Slightly Shaken' by @JaySmithen

MAP22 : 'Marine's Snowiest Base' by @LGmaire

MAP23 : 'The Sinkhole' by @Thelokk

MAP24 : 'Wicked Terminal' by @Roebloz

MAP25 : 'Alcoholic Space Guitar' by @Clippy

MAP26 : 'Cross Counter' by @Luleta

MAP27 : 'Quicksand' by @Astro X

MAP28 : 'Agnosia' by @LPad

MAP29 : 'Killer on the Prowl' by @DMPhobos

MAP30 : 'Doomworld Revolting' by @Savarin

MAP31 : 'Lapis Lazuli' by @ryiron

MAP32 : 'Caco Tombs' by @Weird Sandwich

MAP33 : 'Victorian' by @Astro X

MAP34 : 'Microcosmic Malice' by @jerrysheppy

MAP35 : 'Form and Void' by @Peccatum Mihzamiz

MAP36 : 'Blue Shift' by @Dubium

 

EPISODE 3 - TAXING

MAP37 : 'Blood Basin' by @ViolentBeetle

MAP38 : 'Patio Bloodbath' by @Gaargod

MAP39 : 'With Time Comes An End' by @Engired

MAP40 : 'Red Mantle, Blue Mantle' by @dac

MAP41 : 'Tomb of Nephren-Ka' by @PinkFlamingo

MAP42 : 'Blasphemy' by @azerty

MAP43 : '30/30/3' by @Parkolnaught

MAP44 : 'Kranion' by @knifeworld

MAP45 : 'Windswept' by @Salmon

MAP46 : 'Check' by @Jark

MAP47 : 'Hide and Sick' by @Shawn

MAP48 : 'Rapturous Grief' by @myolden

MAP49 : 'wiltingDryad' by @BENCHY

MAP50 : 'Misjudging the King' by @Bloodbath Giraffe

MAP51 : 'Contamination Station' by @LordEntr0py

 

EPISODE 4 - MAYHEM!

MAP52 : 'Irregular Expression' by @SCF

MAP53 : 'Caeco Regno' by @LPad

MAP54 : 'Spider Testament' by @alexsa2015sa

MAP55 : 'Schism' by @Large Cat

MAP56 : '-ANTI-LIFE-' by @Worriedidiot

MAP57 : 'Coupled Architecture' by @Matacrat

MAP58 : 'Overgrown Fortress' by @finnks13

MAP59 : 'Aquatic Purgatory' by @Nefelibeta

MAP60 : 'The Belphegorian Trials' by @antares031

MAP61 : 'Tourmaline Turmoil' by @LPad

MAP62 : 'Infernal Engine' by @BiZ

MAP63 : 'Neter-Khertet' by @El Inferno

MAP64 : 'Paroxysm' by @NoReason

 

Old thread:

Spoiler

 

Setup

It's quite simple: make a map with thirty monsters in it - no more, no less. We will be mapping for the doom2 IWAD on MBF21 compatibility, targeting DSDA-Doom as our main source port, and using 32in24-15tex as our resource pack.^{mostly I'm tired of OTEX and wanted to try something (old)new}

Custom skies are allowed, just make sure they convert well to the new palette.

Soft deadline is April 1st, specifically April 1st 12:00 GMT, April 1st 8:00 Montreal Time - all mappers should have submitted a beta of their maps at that point. We'll spend more time after that for testing and refining, but overall we should be ready to release before June 2022.

 

Rules - This is where it's gonna get a bit more orderly for the good functioning of this project.

a) All difficulties must be implemented. I won't ask for initial releases to be fully featured, but keep this in mind as we gear up for a release candidate.

b) Maps should have three or more different monster types in them. In additions, there should be no more than five arch-viles or barons, and no more than two cyberdemons or spiderdemons. Just a little something for more variety and less dickery.

c) Keep your maps small. Ribbiks's Crumpets is a good sample of how big your maps should be. (save for its final map)

d) No low effort, obviously. Don't force yourself for the masterpiece, this is a small project after all, but don't just shit out Congestion 512 meets nuts.wad.

e) Keep the difficulty reasonable.  The original thread asked for hard maps, but let's make something enjoyable for everyone.

f) All maps should end with a death exit. This is for future maps and for updates - if needed, I can add these exits if need be. MBF21 has sector options that instantly kill you and end the level.

 

Slots

Just tag me in this thread to apply. Keep in mind we'll reorder maps around for a proper difficulty curve, and since all current MBF21 compatible ports have UMAPINFO compatibility, we are not constrained to the usual 32 map limit. This also means we are not doing anything special with secret maps, MAP07 or anything like that.

 

RC1

 

 

 

 

Submission Format (so everything is easier to handle)

 

File names should have this format: 30mc_[your name] (without brackets obv). If necessary, add a number to your name to mark different maps, and append something like 'v2' to mark different versions of your maps. Put your map in the MAP01 slot.

 

Map Name: ___

Author: ___

Theme: ____ (general theme of your map - techbase, marble, hell, blue, etc.)

Music: _____

Difficulty Settings: ____ (Implemented / not implemented / partially implemented)

Ports Tested: _____ (Expecting at least one test on latest DSDA-Doom!)

Description: _____

Notes: ______ (Your notes).

 

 

And thus, HAVE FUN! We'll be coordinating here, but I can create one of those fancy discord server if need be. Be patient, I'm not used to this, if you have questions go ahead and I'll add more to this OP as we go on.

^{Hell of a way to start my first community project!}

 

 

^{Patch Notes For thread}

^{1.0 - Initial release}

^{1.1 - Modified rule B after feedback}

^{1.2 - Added clarification about map slots.}

^{1.3 - Added clarifications for file name format.}

^{1.4 - Reordered the contributor's list.}

^{1.5 - Beta release}

 

 

Edited August 15, 2022 by dac

[BiZ]

I started a map for the other thread so I'm in @dac

[Obsidian]

Yeah, see, I made a map for the other thread and was gonna post it over here until I saw this:

 

58 minutes ago, dac said:

b) There must be no more than ten monsters of the same type - exceptions for arch-viles and barons who are capped at five, and cyberdemons and spiderdemons who are capped at two. Just a little something for more variety and less dickery.

 

My map has 12 Lost Souls and as such can't be submitted: heck, even the map that started all this exceeds that limit. I think it might be a good idea to just examine the individual maps for dickery instead of instigating a rule like this, as it's definitely possible to use more than 10 monsters of a single type and still have the map be engaging if your mapping skills are sufficiently competent.

 

Just my 17.5 cents.

[galileo31dos01]

1 minute ago, Obsidian said:

My map has 12 Lost Souls and as such can't be submitted

 

If custom enemies were allowed, two of the lost souls could be replaced with your signature spinning cube :p

 

On topic: yeah I'd like to give this a try, no idea how to work with MBF21 particularities (death sectors and player-only block lines I may figure out, but what else is allowed?)

[BiZ]

oops, I guess I did not read the fine print. My map also violates rule b :(

[dac]

10 minutes ago, Obsidian said:

Yeah, see, I made a map for the other thread and was gonna post it over here until I saw this:

 

 

My map has 12 Lost Souls and as such can't be submitted: heck, even the map that started all this exceeds that limit. I think it might be a good idea to just examine the individual maps for dickery instead of instigating a rule like this, as it's definitely possible to use more than 10 monsters of a single type and still have the map be engaging if your mapping skills are sufficiently competent.

 

Just my 17.5 cents.

 

The objective was more about not having a map with only chaingunners and have a bit of a monster diversity but I get your point. I'll update it with something better, like "must have three different monster types". The limits on boss types has to stay though.

 

@galileo31dos01 Welcome! Truth is I'm a newbie at it too, so it's something we'll learn - and even then, we can treat it as just plain Boom with death sectors if we feel like it.

[OverflowingMocha]

I had already started work on a map before you made this thread so I would like join in! @dac

[Obsidian]

Alrighty, I guess I can post my map then!

 

Map Name: Pitted Iron

Author: Obsidian

Theme: E2 techbase

Music: An empty space MIDI by me

Difficulty Settings: Implemented

Ports Tested: PrBoom+, DSDA-Doom, ZDoom

Description: A short map somewhat inspired by Back to Basics and Nihility: Infinite Teeth. Not too difficult, but should still be fun.

Notes: No custom textures in this one: I finished it before I saw this thread, heh.

 

Annnd a screenshot!

Spoiler

 

[Bobby :D]

@dac a low monster count map concept is something I've been wanting to do for a while! I think that I can do a map for next weekish

 

[cannonball]

Nice to see this resurrected. Typically after I went to bed. I will probably make another map for this and submit my first effort as a singular piece as it has its separate thread already.

[Biodegradable]

I too am glad to see someone else jump on the idea since the originator weirdly gave up on it for some reason. It's another nifty limitation idea that should create some interesting results. Have fun, you guys! I'll be curious to play them.

[Bri]

@dac I'd like to join in if possible. 

[MFG38]

@dac I'm in!

Edited December 11, 2021 by MFG38

[KeaganDunn]

@dac I sometimes have a fascination with maps that are very small with very low-monster counts. Plus I've been looking to see more public opt-in community projects on here, so count me in!

Edited December 11, 2021 by Dunn (& Dunn)

[Walter confetti]

Yeah @dac count me in, this looks something fast to do.

I don't know how to do MBF21 Ultra Dehacked magic but for the other mapping stuff i can see what I can do...

Edited December 11, 2021 by Walter confetti

[Sectorslayer]

Interesting! Don’t know about DSDA-Doom and MBF21. Is there a way to test it on PrBoom with a specific complevel?

[akolai]

@dacLooks fun, sign me up.
 

Spoiler

 

re @sectrslayr: mbf21 isn't available for any current prboom+ builds. For testing, you'll need dsda-doom on cl21.

Edited December 11, 2021 by akolai

[MFG38]

2 minutes ago, sectrslayr said:

Don’t know about DSDA-Doom and MBF21. Is there a way to test it on PrBoom with a specific complevel?

 

There isn't as far as I know. The only fully functional MBF21 implementations at the moment are in dsda-doom and Woof, runnable with the -complevel 21 command line parameter.

[SCF]

@dac I already started working on something after seeing the old thread, so I'm in. The deadline seems very generous for a small map so I shouldn't have any trouble finishing it in time.

[finnks13]

@dac Would like to give this a go, so count me in for a slot please!

[LordEntr0py]

Sign me up! Sounds like fun!

[ViolentBeetle]

Give me a map, I have an idea.

[Worriedidiot]

@dac Sounds like a fun enough challenge. I'll give it a go.

[Terrarienn]

@dac I’ll try making a map

[Alter]

@dac Count me in, been a while since i've done a small map with less than 50 monsters rofl

[JaySmithen]

@dac I've never tried MBF21 or even boom before but I'd like to give it a shot 😀

Spoiler

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RVvly8I1KRAUWNP9GEtZJkobsS3zzuSa/view?usp=drive_link

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PRx8NQ3tL4jzQlyqPiGZxXCObKdG3Sce/view?usp=drive_link

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11CCXSap3bX_MCEsdQYhdnhflus6v1AwA/view?usp=drive_link

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XEZA3Tzbohb2NS9wpTXw_Mkm2s0cDUmp/view?usp=drive_link

 

 

 

Edited June 4, 2024 by JaySmithen
A couple more screenshots :)

[PinkFlamingo]

@dac I'd like to join as well.

Edited December 11, 2021 by PinkFlamingo

[Worst]

@dac I'd also like to participate!

I've listed my unique strengths below:

Spoiler

 

 

[BoxY]

 @dac I'll take a slot please.

[Bloodbath Giraffe]

@dac can i also please have a slot?