galileo31dos01 Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) (For previous threads, check edition X) The idea is simple, you see screenshots of map layouts from the widest pool ever that is doom content, and you're free to guess as many maps as you can. Each and every map will belong to a different wad to make things varied and interesting, and they can belong to Ultimate Doom/Doom 2, Final Doom, Heretic, commercial and non-commercial PWADs from those games, and partial/total conversions as well. As per usual, the difficulty of the guesses will grow gradually, with random spikes and thorns and whatnot, so basically a contemporary sort of difficulty curve, and I know this edition isn't going to be easy. We are however reminding you of a couple important notes: - Answers MUST be hidden in spoilers, no exceptions. This is an old rule but we're setting it clear now. If you don't use the spoiler option, your guesses won't count. - You may resort to the search bar, web pages, or whatever assistance in case you're not 100% sure of the wad and/or slot but feel like you've seen the map before. Like before, the screenshots will be accompanied by a hint for each one. A new hint for each will be revealed on the 25th of December, and the answers on the 28th. So get guessing! 01 Spoiler Were these the assholes that burned the city and killed Daisy? There are two exits, one is cool, the other burns LUT 02 Spoiler That northern L-shaped area provides a case of BFG bumping cyberdemons The wad is usually brought up in threads when speaking of entry-level slaughter USH 03 Spoiler Large hordes in enclosed spaces dominate the centre and southern parts of this one, including a pre-placed pinky mass on harmless toxic The northern area includes a techbase portion with a seemingly fake exit behind an archvile, a compblu corridor with some barons, and a secret shotgun VEND 04 Spoiler Single map based on a dream, although in spite of the name there're no vegetables to be seen The eastern section is a switch hunt with caged cacodemons interference RROT 05 Spoiler An industrial toxic base with lots of cacodemons, ending in a little sewer, and no tags 666/667 for a change A certain Tom composed the music for this map, or maps should I say GATE 06 Spoiler A proof of concept that heavily detailed faux 3d bridges can lead to framedrops! Brrr it's eternally cold out there... OZEN 07 Spoiler The BFG shoots single plasma bolts at a slow rate, the bats are laughing at you The title of the wad is roughly similar to a Netflix series about the lives of women in prison ORAN 08 Spoiler The X marks a place for arachnotrons to join in when they please to People have been begging for the sequel of the wad to come out for years SUTR 09 Spoiler The cavern system is replete with sabreclaws, stalactites and boiling rocks I could have picked a lesser forgettable map... anyways, this one is an early map and belongs to the episode with red sky TIC 10 Spoiler The floor is lava, the sky is starry, the lost souls are everywhere, and the icon is awaiting Guns 'n Roses has a song titled like this wad ANGE 11 Spoiler Part of your mission is to infiltrate an astronomical observatory and enter through a black hole You'll later be "swimming" next to fish and between sea plants to find a key IGM 12 Spoiler Who put these barrels here... Ah, esselfortium did SCYT 13 Spoiler Our hero must traverse the tunnels flooded with mucus, ew The icon of the flemoids awaits patiently at the end QUES 14 Spoiler From a 2021 megawad, and in particular, a map with a giant switch The mapper got a mention as a promising newcomer in the Cacowards ONIC 15 Spoiler Spooky late level, lots of offices, bedrooms, and angry helmeted guys The wad was released in three stages during 2011-2013, with each getting new maps until forming the full classic-inspired megawad that it is today ESIS 16 Spoiler I heard some shotgun guys went to this small library to find books about hair loss therapy, but they didn't know the place closed after 3 hours This is indeed a speedmap, one that belongs to a sequel (but not a trequel!) AGON 17 Spoiler Large hell map that's best played without infinite tall actors enabled, because surviving the hordes underneath is crucial to do the platforming A lot of the other maps in this wad are very obvious tributes to Hell Revealed, just with red barons here and there URVI 18 Spoiler Apparently the symbol in the middle is from Star Trek, well, if that's not enough, the mapper included a handful other references to said franchise here and there One of the (direct) references is in the title of this old megawad itself UMBE 19 Spoiler Playing on each skill level will give you a different, progressive experience, as intended by the author A single level from 1995, the author was also part of Requiem and STRAIN's crew RIPL 20 Spoiler The beginning of a series of immense fortresses in the space with blue as the primary colour You can find similar motifs in aesthetics in a certain community project by some mappers from Japan IRIT 21 Spoiler Looks and sounds like Congo, but it isn't, then what will err would it be... Da wad needs the plutonia iwad, though this is the only homage-y map WIL 22 Spoiler Well again, parts of it look familiar, though the spider mastermind is new, and the meticulous texture alignment, something the mapper put a lot of effort into Despite being an ancient '95 wad, it saw its final idgames release on 2015 BYS 23 Spoiler Brutal single map that requires the wad in item n°17, and because I'm nice, I'll let you know the mapper is known for delivering tons of humble MAP01 The main central room and surroundings are filled with the map's signature element, are you feeling the love yet? LOV 24 Spoiler The exit is at the tip of a long radioactive corridor, and you need the cyan and pink skulls first to earn your protective suit If there are a cyan and a pink keys, and the rest is black and white, is this CGA Doom... NWEL 25 Spoiler Exploding pods keep regenerating as you traverse some icy castle and cavern One of the main fights pits you against an iron lich and a handful pods, getting creative is key THOR Good luck! Edited December 27, 2021 by galileo31dos01 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
Roofi Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) Spoiler 17 - Survive in Hell map 23 16 - 3 heures d'agonie 2 map 10 08 - Kama Sutra map 04 03 - Alien Vendetta map 14 Edited December 22, 2021 by Roofi 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Doomlover77 Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) Spoiler The first one is Plutonia m11 - Hunted no 9 is heretic E2m2 I’m sure of it Edited December 23, 2021 by Doomlover77 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
NuMetalManiak Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) Spoiler 1. Plutonia MAP11 Hunted 2. One of the levels in Rush, MAP08 or something? Remembered doing secrets for this not to long ago. 3. Alien Vendetta MAP14 Overwhelming Odds 4. Castle of the Eternal Carrot in the Sky (the hint really got it made, honestly) 5. and then the simple one gets me 6. Frozen Time 7. The hint makes me think of a random ZDoom level that I probably never played and the design probably resembles Ultimate Simplicity but this is an incredibly far-fetched guess and I am definitely unsure of things and wow what a run-on sentence. 8. Kama Sutra MAP04 9. Probably a vanilla Heretic level. 10. Estranged MAP30 11. The hint makes me think of that one level that is the boss level after Thunderpeak in ZPack. But the geometry at the bottom makes me think of something else. Must be a didy level. Axiom? Sigma? 12. It's not MAP07 of Doom II (because of the dummy sector on the right and the missing deathmatch only part on the NW). Other than that no clue. 13. More square sectors than I can handle. 14. Imma have to remember my 2021 megawads. Sign of Torment perhaps? 15. Jenesis MAP29 Mutant Jenesis 16. Author logo shows that this is a 3HA map, question is which one? 17. Survive in Hell MAP23 18. 1killtng.wad...MAP11? 19. I feel like the central plus-shaped sector at the bottom center is where you start. 20. I think I know this one, Water Spirit perhaps? Must be MAP01 since it says it's the first level. 21. Maybe Plutonium Winds? Da Will MAP01 (seen it before at least once) 22. Wild guess on the author but something by Scypek2? 23. I didn't know another wad required SiH's resources. 24. Cyan and pink skulls? A map by MysteriousHaruko? 25. A Heretic level, clearly. 10 to 12 on my first go somewhat unsure on a few here but oh well. Spoiler Surprisingly no Christmas-themed levels considering how close we are to the holiday itself. Edited December 23, 2021 by NuMetalManiak tried 21/22 again 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
vdgg Posted December 22, 2021 Spoiler 1. Plutonia MAP11 easy :) all the rest with hints 4. Castle of eternal carrot in the sky 7. Orange is true love... MAP01? The map GarretChan likes 16. sorry I haven't played 3heures series 19. 3xplay , McClendon, but it is a guess, there were more maps like that 22. d2reload 31? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
lokbustam257 Posted December 23, 2021 Spoiler -1. MAP11: Hunted from Plutonia -that's it lol 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
pcorf Posted December 23, 2021 Spoiler 1. Plutonia: Hunted ..... Oh yeah, fun indeed! 3. Map 14 from AV 12. A modified version of Dead Simple which I haven't played. DM BFG and exit room removed. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
RHhe82 Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) Here goes again. Spoiler 1. Looks like something I know. Plutonia, map12 (?), Hunted. (The archvile maze level with the bunny music). EDIT: Apparently it’s map11, but anyway that’s what I meant :P 9. I wonder if this is an early Heretic episode 2 level. Perhaps E2M2? (Another EDIT: Admittedly, hint helped me narrow down possibilities). I repeat myself, but I have seriously lacking experience on pwads :( Edited December 23, 2021 by RHhe82 Added honesty regarding my guesses 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
FrancisT218 Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) Of those not already guessed 24. UnWelcome map03 25. Wayfarer E1M9 Edited December 23, 2021 by FrancisT218 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
SiFi270 Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) Without hints: Spoiler 1. Plutonia Map11: Hunted 12. I can tell it's not Dead Simple because it's missing the DM exit. As for what it could be... dang. 13. Chex Quest E1M5? It's stilll WAY too tempting to double check in Slade. Yeah the hint confirmed it but then I thought "what if the CQ3 version's meaningfully different enough for it to be that?" but it looks like the last room's a lot simpler in that one so it's CQ1. 22. Abyss Map31. I know it's that wad and that part of it, but the thought that it could actually be 32 is having the same effect as my above guess. With hints: Spoiler 4. Castle of the Eternal Carrot in the Sky, or something along those lines. The one by the guy best known for the Vrack trilogy. 5. Perdition's Gate map07 7. Orange is True Love map01? 9. Heretic E2M2 15. Jenesis map... 21? 29. For some reason I remembered it as the start of the last episode. 18. Something from Deathkings? I know one of its maps also has a silhouette of the Enterprise in it. EDIT: Oh wait I can double check some things? I'll adjust my guesses accordingly then. Edited December 23, 2021 by SiFi270 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
RjY Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) sight only Spoiler 01 Plutonia map11 02 Rush map08, I remember dying on this map in Ironman. 03 Alien Vendetta map14, had to check map slot, either 13 or 14 05 Perdition's Gate map07, a lot of Ironman players were locked out by a door here. 06 Frozen Time, well-known framerate destroyer 08 Kama Sutra map04, replaying this after missing map19 a few weeks back has paid off! 16 I suspect it is from one of the 3 Heures d'Agonie wads. 19 Triple Play (3x-play.wad) - also heroes2 map13 21 Da Will map01, had to check wad title, all I could think of was "that russian plutonia wad with the unintended strafe50 bridge" :). after clues Spoiler 04 Castle of Eternal Carrot In The Sky (vegetables in title, symmetry, big skyboxes) 06 Even the clue has low framerate as the map's memorable feature :). 15 Jenesis map29 ("angry helmeted guys" made me take a second look) 16 The clue confirms 3 Heures d'Agonie, but I don't know which one of the series, so this might not be specific enough to count. after second clues Spoiler 07 IIRC there is a recent-ish wad named Orange is True Love 12 From that April Fool wad that was all Dead Simple remakes? Dark Scythe? 18 IIRC there is an older wad named Number One Kill - The Next Generation researched (not to be counted as guesses) Spoiler 07 Ribbiks' wiki entry lists Orange is True Love - map01 - Bat House 12 Dark Scythe map23, looked through esselfortium's maps on the wiki. 16 3ha2 map10, looked up Jambon's maps on the wiki. 18 1killtng map11, looked through the maps on the wiki. Edited December 26, 2021 by RjY 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
SiFi270 Posted December 24, 2021 Spoiler So I suspected Dark Scythe for number 12 and skimmed through it to find Map23 was the best match. Not sure how valid this "guess" is but I'll post it anyway. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Shepardus Posted December 24, 2021 Spoiler 1. Plutonia MAP11 - Hunted 6. Frozen Time 7. Orange is True Love MAP01 12. Dark Scythe - I forget the map number, but I recall a map with a bunch of barrels as the hint alludes to... 14. Don't know what map, but the hint makes me think it's from Doom II: Demonic Destruction. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
galileo31dos01 Posted December 25, 2021 Additional hints have just been added! Merry Christmas! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
xScavengerWolfx Posted December 26, 2021 The only one i can tell you is #1 is Plutonia's MAP11 Haunted. Which fun fact Civvie 11 had nightmares about that map when he was a wee lad. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Shepardus Posted December 26, 2021 Second round of guessing: Spoiler 12. I looked through Dark Scythe and found this in the MAP23 slot. I should have guessed it'd be the Barrels o' Fun replacement. 13. Chex Quest E1M5 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
NuMetalManiak Posted December 26, 2021 Spoiler 22 is Abyss MAP31. Got nothing else new. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
finnks13 Posted December 26, 2021 Giving this a go since it seemed like a fun game, I used the hints for all of these (bar the first and eighth map, which I knew without them): Spoiler 1. Plutonia Map11 2. Probably Rush from the second hint? Not sure what map. 3. Alien Vendetta Map14 4. ? 5. Perdition's Gate Map7 6. Frozen Time Map1 7. Orange is True Love Map1 8. Kama Sutra Map4 9. ? 10. ? 11. ? 12. Dark Scythe Map23? 13. Chex Quest E1M5? (Guessing from the hints, and that Chex Quest's final map is E1M5) 14. ? 15. Probably a map from Jenesis based off of the second hint, though I have no idea what map it is as I've only played the first 3 maps of it. 16. 3 heures d'agonie 2, no idea what map 17. Survive in Hell Map23 18. ? 19. ? 20. Thought it could be Vrack or Europa from the hints, but I have no clue. 21. Plutonia 7 Map1? (just guessing based off of the Plutonia Congo influence, it's probably not actually this!) 22. ? 23. ? (Didn't know another wad required Survive in Hell to run, I might have to check it out because I remember really enjoying Survive in Hell) 24. ? 25. Something from a Heretic PWAD presumably. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
galileo31dos01 Posted December 27, 2021 Just thought of adding an extra special third hint, this time I've decided to extract 3-4 letters from the wad names without altering the order, so you'll have a piece for each that may help you better to recognize or remember the correct answers, or maybe not!... It's an experiment, but I figured a little twist to the game wouldn't hurt :) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
FrancisT218 Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) Additional answers after clues (combine with those in my first post). Again only guessing ones that I cannot find a specific wad name guess already made for, or where I believe that guess is incorrect. 11. Sigma ( @NuMetalManiakcalled this, but listed two guesses) 23. Love You With Poison (I think it runs on map01....it's a single level wad) 25. Obviously my previous guess is wrong. It's from Realm of Pathoris based on hint 3, but I'm not going to cheat and look for the map number. Edited December 27, 2021 by FrancisT218 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
NuMetalManiak Posted December 27, 2021 2 hours ago, galileo31dos01 said: Just thought of adding an extra special third hint, this time I've decided to extract 3-4 letters from the wad names without altering the order, so you'll have a piece for each that may help you better to recognize or remember the correct answers, or maybe not!... It's an experiment, but I figured a little twist to the game wouldn't hurt :) Interesting idea. If I ever did a third hint again it would probably be either first or last letter in my case, ended up finding a couple more as a result of all this. Spoiler 24. Or maybe not, but I'm guessing Unwelcome? Never played it. 25. Realm of Parthoris E1M9 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
NaZa Posted December 28, 2021 Missed this one till it was almost too late! My attempts again as bad as always!!! 1st reading (without hints) Spoiler The Plutonia Experiment, MAP11: Hunted No clue but I feel like I've seen this No idea. No idea. Perdition's Gate, MAP07 No idea. No idea. Kama Sutra, MAP04 (the last map of this I had played so far) Heretic, E2M2: The Lava Pits (played this the other day) No clue but I feel like I've seen this No idea. It's missing that one room for it to be Dead Simple so I'm guessing it's something from Dark Scythe Chex Quest E1, MAP05 No idea. Jenesis, MAP29: Mutant Jenesis Something from 3 heures d'agonie? Only played the first one and don't remember a thing but the maps by franckFRAG were usually this short. This I say because I think jambon is smth in French Seen at least a hundred maps with shapes like these No idea. No idea. No idea. No idea. The Abyss, MAP31: The Temple No idea. No idea. Something for Heretic but no idea. 2nd reading (with hints as I only saw them all at once :c) Spoiler The Plutonia Experiment, MAP11: Hunted Rush, MAP08! I knew I'd seen this! One of my all time favourite Ironman sets and personal runs... No idea still. No idea still. Perdition's Gate, MAP07 Definitely something containing the word "Frozen" but not sure what Orange is the new Black is the name of that show I think but not sure what this is... Orange? Kama Sutra, MAP04 (the last map of this I had played so far) Heretic, E2M2: The Lava Pits (played this the other day) I've not seen this nvm No idea still. Dark Scythe but unsure which map Chex Quest E1, MAP05 No idea still. Jenesis, MAP29: Mutant Jenesis Something from 3 heures d'agonie 2 Seen at least a hundred maps with shapes like these No idea still and it aches me because it's inspired by Hell Revealed No idea still. No idea still. No idea still. The Abyss, MAP31: The Temple No idea still. No idea still. Something for Heretic but no idea still. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
galileo31dos01 Posted December 29, 2021 Time's up! 01. The Plutonia Experiment, MAP11 (Doomlover77, NuMetalManiak, vdgg, lokbustam257, pcorf, RHhe82, SiFi270, RjY, Shepardus, finnks13, NaZa) 02. Rush, MAP08 (NuMetalManiak, RjY, finnks13 wad guess, NaZa) 03. Alien Vendetta, MAP14 (Roofi, NuMetalManiak, pcorf, RjY, finnks13 04. Castle of Eternal Carrot in the Sky (NuMetalManiak, vdgg, SiFi270, RjY) 05. Perdition's Gate, MAP07 (SiFi270, RjY, finnks13, NaZa) 06. Frozen Time (NuMetalManiak, RjY, Shepardus, finnks13) 07. Orange is True Love, MAP01 (vdgg, SiFi270, RjY wad guess, Shepardus, finnks13) 08. Kama Sutra, MAP04 (Roofi, NuMetalManiak, RjY, finnks13, NaZa) 09. Heretic, E2M2 (Doomlover77, NuMetalManiak wad guess, RHhe82, SiFi270, NaZa) 10. Estranged, MAP30 (NuMetalManiak) 11. Sigma (NuMetalManiak unsure guess but a guess anyways, FrancisT218) 12. Dark Scythe, MAP23 (RjY wad guess, SiFi270 valid guess in my book, Shepardus, finnks13, NaZa wad guess) 13. Chex Quest, E1M5 (SiFi270, Shepardus, finnks13, NaZa) 14. Demonic Destruction!, MAP05 (Shepardus wad guess) 15. Jenesis, MAP29 (NuMetalManiak, SiFi270, RjY, finnks13 wad guess, NaZa) 16. 3 Heures d'Agonie 2, MAP10 (Roofi, NuMetalManiak and RjY technically-correct-wad-but-missing-series-number partial guess, finnks13 and NaZa actual wad guess) 17. Survive in Hell, MAP23 (Roofi, NuMetalManiak, finnks13) 18. Number One Kill The Next Generation, MAP11 (NuMetalManiak, RjY wad guess) 19. Triple-Play (vdgg, RjY) 20. Water Spirit, MAP01 (NuMetalManiak) 21. Da Will, MAP01 (NuMetalManiak, RjY) 22. The Abyss, MAP31 (SiFi270, NaZa) 23. Love You With Poison (FrancisT218 - it's in map 12 actually) 24. Unwelcome, MAP03 (FrancisT218, NuMetalManiak wad guess) 25. The Realm of Parthoris, E1M9 (FrancisT218, NuMetalManiak) Damn, at least one correct guess for each tells me this wasn't as hard as I thought it'd be! Very well done folks. Stay tuned for next round, is NuMetal going to host it? will it be me again? will it be Dario Casali nah jk anyways... NuMetal it's your turn 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
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