What are some WADs that deserve a new MIDI Pack?

[Wadmodder Shalton]

Nathan Lineback's Mars War, mainly remixing all the music as the scope.

[Ultimate Freedoomer]

I do have this topic I started for any musicians who want to contribute.

[Enzo Carozza]

Scythe and Perdition's Gate.

[Faceman2000]

1 hour ago, Enzo Carozza said:

Scythe and Perdition's Gate.

Ah heck no. Perdition’s Gate soundtrack is killer and should not be touched.

[Enzo Carozza]

2 minutes ago, Faceman2000 said:

Perdition’s Gate soundtrack is killer and should not be touched.

Yeah, it is killer. I just wish "Javelin Juice" wasn't only 52 seconds long.

[Wadmodder Shalton]

Herian 1 & 2, definitely deserve their own music to go with their waterworks.

[Gez]

25 minutes ago, Faceman2000 said:

Ah heck no. Perdition’s Gate soundtrack is killer and should not be touched.

Perdition's Gate and Hell to Pay have largely the same soundtracks so why not a Hell to Pay MIDI Pack then?

[Faceman2000]

1 minute ago, Gez said:

Perdition's Gate and Hell to Pay have largely the same soundtracks so why not a Hell to Pay MIDI Pack then?

Really even one that just replaces the duplicate tracks within either one would be cool with me too. I just wouldn’t like a project like a lot of the ones we saw over the last few years that replaces every single track.

[Cammy]

I haven't told anyone about this, but for a while I considered leading a joint double MIDI pack for both Hell to Pay and Perdition's Gate. Akin to the TNT MIDI Pack, it would have entailed expanded covers of the original songs in their debut slots, backed up by original MIDIs in slots that were previously occupied by duplicates.

 

Funnily enough, when those rules are spread out across both wads (which is to say that, for instance, a track debuting in one megawad's map01 and the other megawad's map20 would be considered a duplicate in the latter case and replaced with an original song), there would be exactly 12 covers per megawad. Nice and balanced. That just made me more inclined to do it, but I never ended up pulling the trigger.

 

Obviously, a double MIDI pack would be an absolutely enormous undertaking. I've got other things I'm working on right now (one of which is another MIDI pack), but would this be something people would be interested in seeing down the line?

Edited December 15, 2023 by Cammy

[Trov]

On 1/3/2022 at 6:17 PM, Astronomical said:

Scythe 1 is a clear choice

Don't touch Map30 though, it's too iconic.

 

Agreed on Hell Revealed. Much of HR's appeal is its jank, and having mostly ROTT soundtrack is a big part of that.

 

On 1/4/2022 at 1:26 PM, Mr. Freeze said:

The thing is, to make an Aliens TC MIDI pack work, you're asking composers here to imitate James Horner. Really tough! 

Maybe they can go for his 'Commando' style. I am 90% sure he's using a Sound Canvas for several patches in here.

 

 

Edited December 15, 2023 by Trov

[Enzo Carozza]

17 minutes ago, Cammy said:

I haven't told anyone about this, but for a while I considered leading a joint double MIDI pack for both Hell to Pay and Perdition's Gate. Akin to the TNT MIDI Pack, it would have entailed expanded covers of the original songs in their debut slots, backed up by original MIDIs in slots that were previously occupied by duplicates.

Speak of the devil! Have you tried to find and contact Jan Sinkmajer yet about the 3 other tracks?

[Faceman2000]

40 minutes ago, Cammy said:

would this be something people would be interested in seeing down the line?

Honestly I think the truest answer is people are interested in seeing just about any midi pack project, it’s just that there’s a limited number of midi musicians in the community and so the project has to draw enough of them to make it doable. Perdition’s Gate and Hell to Pay have some of the necessary name recognition to do that, but that’s also a lot of tracks, especially when there’s a lot of people (well, at least two people?) who aren’t a huge fan of replacing every track in for wads like these. The TNT midi pack is fantastic, for example, but I don’t like to use the remixed versions of tracks as I love the originals, so I made my own that only replaced the duplicates.

 

On the flip side, there is of course a case to be made for consistency and for lengthening tracks that are too short or haven’t aged very well.

 

This was my really long way of saying yes, I would love that.

[Serathis]

Lost Civilization, the map pack is amazing but the music is bleh.

[raddicted]

cyberdreams, duh

[Ultimate Freedoomer]

If Hell Revealed does get a MIDI pack, Lee Jackson should compose the music for at least the first 20 maps so that the songs still fit perfectly

[Cammy]

On 12/15/2023 at 3:20 PM, Enzo Carozza said:

Speak of the devil! Have you tried to find and contact Jan Sinkmajer yet about the 3 other tracks?

 

I contacted the company that I think he works at but haven't gotten a response. That was at least a year ago, though. I really should try again...

 

On 12/15/2023 at 3:45 PM, Faceman2000 said:

This was my really long way of saying yes, I would love that.

 

Thank you - I guess I'll need to put it on my to-do list, then. :)

 

Although I've seen it said that the Doom community doesn't have many composers to pick from, it's something I disagree with myself. If anything, I think the proportional number of skilled musicians here is shockingly high - the population of mappers is definitely a lot higher, but there's more than just a fistful of song-slinging stragglers on the sides. There are dozens of talented, friendly, and hard-working musicians who are as passionate about Doom music as mappers are about mapping. (And that's to say nothing of the multi-talented beasts out there who can do both.)

 

I'll take any opportunity I can to give my fellow musicians a platform and a new credit on their resume! Now if I could just clear out my current workload...

[JackDBS]

On 12/20/2023 at 10:29 AM, Ultimate Freedoomer said:

If Hell Revealed does get a MIDI pack, Lee Jackson should compose the music for at least the first 20 maps so that the songs still fit perfectly

I modified HR back when I played it a second time (still wasn't a fun time) and I decided to add other ROTT music to the maps that didn't have music already in it. Not gonna lie, "You Suck!" is a lot more fitting in MAP24 than "In the Dark". 

 

Anyways, I think Community Chest 2 and Memento Mori should get MIDI packs. All times classics. CC2, but with all maps with different music besides MAP24, of course. Memento Mori has a banger soundtrack, but of course the tracks repeat after MAP15.

Edited December 25, 2023 by JackDBS

[Romh]

I was just replaying 10 Sectors, which I think is a good candidate. It's got no music, so it just plays the standard Doom 2 tracks. The maps are different enough that there can be a lot of variety in the midi pack!

[Wadmodder Shalton]

Obituary deserves its own MIDI Pack

[Ultimate Freedoomer]

On 12/25/2023 at 2:26 AM, JackDBS said:

I modified HR back when I played it a second time (still wasn't a fun time) and I decided to add other ROTT music to the maps that didn't have music already in it. Not gonna lie, "You Suck!" is a lot more fitting in MAP24 than "In the Dark". 

 

Anyways, I think Community Chest 2 and Memento Mori should get MIDI packs. All times classics. CC2, but with all maps with different music besides MAP24, of course. Memento Mori has a banger soundtrack, but of course the tracks repeat after MAP15.

I think I also suggested a supplement for Master Levels MIDI packs for the rejected/tie-in maps.

[Devalaous]

Now that its an official add-on, I think 'The Trooper's Playground' should get a midi pack. Its gotta have tracks for the bonus level and the two deathmatch levels though!

[pcorf]

On 12/21/2023 at 2:34 AM, raddicted said:

cyberdreams, duh

 

Maybe some office style jazz music with drawbar organ solos. Music that makes you think.

[Wadmodder Shalton]

Doom JR and Project X, two early MegaWADs by Mike Watson from 1997 and 1998 respectively.

[Li'l devil]

Community project idea: Maximum Doom MIDI Pack. Write thousands of intentionally terrible, broken MIDIs.

Edited January 23 by Li'l devil

[Donowa]

6 hours ago, Li'l devil said:

Community project idea: Maximum Doom MIDI Pack. Write thousands of intentionally terrible, broken MIDIs.

really? original compositions for all 3461 of them?

[LadyMistDragon]

32 minutes ago, Donowa said:

really? original compositions for all 3461 of them?

[Ultimate Freedoomer]

I mean… a buddy of mine is working on original compositions for the Master Levels storyline maps that were included as part of Maximum Doom instead.

[valkiriforce]

I wouldn't say "deserve" but I kinda wish Doom Core had its own original soundtrack - specifically the re-release (save for the one map that actually does have an original song).

 

But just to throw something else on the list, maybe a soundtrack for Cleimos 2 for a more wildcard pick.

[Devalaous]

15 minutes ago, valkiriforce said:

I wouldn't say "deserve" but I kinda wish Doom Core had its own original soundtrack - specifically the re-release (save for the one map that actually does have an original song).

 

But just to throw something else on the list, maybe a soundtrack for Cleimos 2 for a more wildcard pick.

 

As a Doom Core fan, I'll have you know it has to include tracks for the levels cut from Doom Core Delta/Doom Core Trilogy :p (Like what Cammy did for Valley of Echoes in the AV Midi Pack)

 

Cleimos 2 definitely deserves one, as one of the earliest megawads. Since all of Cleimos 1's maps ended up in Cleimos 2 but altered, by making a Midi Pack for it, you also indirectly make one for the original :D

Edited January 26 by Devalaous

[AD_79]

Posting to say that a Doom Core MIDI pack sounds fun.

 

Also, I was playing around with the idea of writing new music for Cydonia a while ago, but only got three tracks in before abandoning the concept. Let me know if anyone would have interest in a project like this.