[Release, GZDoom & K8] Freaky Panties V: I Love Penguins, a map done entirely in Eureka (v1.0.2, updated 23 Jan 2022)

[Remilia Scarlet]

Basic Info

• Singleplayer only, one level
• Doom 2 IWAD
• Requires K8Vavoom or GZDoom.
• Additional mods are neither supported nor recommended
• You MUST load the OTEX v1.1 wad along with this pk3, otherwise you won't get any textures.  OTEX is NOT included.
• README file
• This is not a lewd wad, it just has an odd name

 

Description/Info

Freaky Panties V is a map done entirely in Linux using only the Eureka level editor for mapping.  Yep, this was 100% made with Eureka.  The majority of the map was constructed in about 2 weeks, but the final version ended up taking a bit over a month due to IRL stuff.

 

Overall, this one is a bit more laid back than my previous Freaky Panties maps.  Life's been stressful for me lately, and a relaxing yet fun map felt like a good change of pace.  Plus I'm finding I like maps about this length more and more.

 

The map is designed to work with either K8Vavoom or GZDoom.  However, K8Vavoom is highly recommended due to better visual fidelity if your computer can handle it.  GZDoom works perfectly fine, and will probably work better if you have a weak computer.

 

Freaky Panties is an ongoing mapping series where I finish a techbase (or mainly a techbase) map within approximately 1 month (or close to one month).  Each one also tends to experiment with something, and Freaky Panties V is no different.

 

The difficulty settings in Freaky Panties V do not behave in the same way as the traditional Doom difficulty settings: the same monsters and items appear regardless of difficulty.  Instead other aspects of the game change in order to raise or lower the difficulty.  For example, on easy difficulties, the monsters are weaker and less aggressive.  A brief description of the difficulty is provided in the menu when you select it.

 

Links and Downloads

Download: https://mega.nz/folder/MxMWDRIB#QOPIuiYqcRSnzNvAaqPCPw/file/0lFgnbwJ (5 MB, SHA1: c04d45e01822a71349bfdd95b62a48cfceb2f4bd)

 

More Screenshots

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Known Bugs

Spoiler

A small number of 3D floors don't have their lighting rendered correctly in K8Vavoom.  This seems to be an engine issue, not a map issue, since GZDoom renders them correctly.  Either way, it's only really noticeable at the start and does not have any effect on gameplay.

 

Also, \n's show up in current versions of GZDoom when displaying the help messages for the difficulties.  K8Vavoom does not have this issue.

 

Changelog

Spoiler

v1.0.2

• Fix the megasphere not spawning in GZDoom at the start of the Overlord fight.
• Fix a texture alignment on line 5522 by splitting it and changing the offsets.
• Prevent possible cheesing opportunities during the final fight.
• Increase the cyberdemon's health to make it more obvious you shouldn't be shooting him.
• Added some subtle hints for the shootable switches.
• Added an ending message.
• Updated the readme.

 

v1.0.1

• Add a check so that the Overlord does not spawn the vertical lightning columns on lower difficulties.
• Disable the debugging messages that were accidentally left enabled
• Bump health of overlord slightly
• Make the hell knight in the rocket launcher secret more likely to see the player to alert them to the open door
• Make some secrets slightly more obvious
• Mark the rocket launcher secret properly
• Add a light above the berserk door so it's easier to notice
• Prevent cheesing of the second half of the red key fight
• Prevent possible sequence break
• Add an extra cacodemon on hard during the last fight
• Fix a texture alignment
• Add some info to the text file that I forgot to mention.

 

My Other Releases

Spoiler

Freaky Panties IV: Hipsters and Bikinis

WMC04 (E1M1)

Kill

WMC03 (MAP03)

WMC02 (MAP12)
WMC01 (MAP06)

The Unending

Oops! All Greyboxes! (community project)

Halls of The Goat Child

Freaky Panties 2: Boxers or Briefs

Freaky Panties

Umbra of Fate

Shadows of The Nightmare Realm

Extreme Terror

One Doomed Marine

 

Edited February 13 by Remilia Scarlet
update to v1.0.2

[Yugiboy85]

Yes, penguins are awesome. 

 

Looks hela cool :D 

 

Just realised this but, there is no freaky panties 3? 

 

 

Edited January 20, 2022 by Yugiboy85

[Remilia Scarlet]

18 minutes ago, Yugiboy85 said:

Just realised this but, there is no freaky panties 3? 

There is! It was called Spoopy Panties and was the final level of WMC01.

[LuciferSam86]

Really nice looking map, Remilia!

What hardware configuration do you suggest for playing with k8?

[Remilia Scarlet]

Just now, LuciferSam86 said:

Really nice looking map, Remilia!

What hardware configuration do you suggest for playing with k8?

Short answer: I can run it on integrated Vega 3 graphics just fine.

 

Hmm.  I successfully use K8 on my laptop, which is a Ryzen 3 3200U with integrated Vega 3 graphics.  It's definitely on the weaker side, but it's perfectly playable on hardware like that IMO.  Most of the map was developed on that, in fact.  I don't know if I would go much lower, though.  I've tried to optimize the lighting so it won't run too horribly on older hardware, but there are still a few viewpoints where things can really slow down.

 

I detailed part of the map on my desktop (i9 + GTX 1080) and though I tried very hard to test it on my laptop as well whenever possible, I may have missed a few opportunities for optimization.

[LuciferSam86]

Oh good to hear, I should be covered with my 5600x . The only problem could be my GTX1060 :)

Thanks for the informations, can't wait to play it :)

[Megalyth]

Daaaaaaaaamn

 

I really want to get around to playing your mapography, I'm currently moving and it's hard to find the time for games, but I've been on the lookout for your stuff. At this rate I'll have to take a week off work to play everything. 

[LuciferSam86]

Oh a quick note for the people who want to try this level : you have to use the wad edition of OTEX, not the pk3 .

[Biodegradable]

Oh man, another phenomenal map for the illustrious dark queen of techbases, Remilia Scarlet! I loved it. Gorgeous detailing, mouth-watering design, straightforward but nevertheless engaging progression and thrilling combat from beginning to end with fun set pieces! B-e-a-utiful.

 

 

[LadyMistDragon]

Played on G-String because that's the most fun. Though if you wanna go commando, you know where to find me....

 

But no more bad puns please. We all know what to do with a Cyberdemon. At least the BFG doesn't require a master's degree in Doom texturing to unlock.

 

Nice nod to Extreme Terror at the end there, though that seemed a little harder. I think I never found the BFG there though....I still ended up being killed by the last little bolt the Overlord has shot out before being destroyed, boooooo

[LuciferSam86]

Just a small thing: while playing in GZDoom I can see the debug messages from the ACS script (kinda spoiling what's happening in the level).

I just recompiled the script from the source changing the line

#libdefine FORCE_DEBUG_MODE true

to

#libdefine FORCE_DEBUG_MODE false

EDIT: I just finished the level on GZDoom (k8 seems too much for my GPU) and I really liked it.

Edited January 20, 2022 by LuciferSam86

[Remilia Scarlet]

3 hours ago, LuciferSam86 said:

Just a small thing: while playing in GZDoom I can see the debug messages from the ACS script (kinda spoiling what's happening in the level). 

FAK.  I even made a mental note as I was doing a final playtest in GZDoom to disable those (they only show up on screen in GZDoom; in K8, they're only in the console and terminal window).  I'll release a hotfix soon for that.  Derp.

 

4 hours ago, LadyMistDragon said:

I still ended up being killed by the last little bolt the Overlord has shot out before being destroyed, boooooo

I'm considering nerfing the Overlord very slightly on lower difficulties.  Those damn vertical lightning bolts are what always get me lol

 

3 hours ago, LuciferSam86 said:

(k8 seems too much for my GPU)

If you want to try again, try these suggestions.  These are the first options I tweak to improve performance on weaker hardware:

• Turn down the shadowmap size and use bilinear filtering for the shadowmaps.  Disable them for corpses. (Options -> Video Options -> Shadowmap Options, the last menu item).
• Disable decals (Options -> Video Options -> Decal Options), or disable the built-in gore mod.
• Use lightmaps instead of shadowmaps (Options -> Video Options, look for 'level renderer').  Be sure to restart the level or use the `vidrestartrenderer` console command after changing this.
• Lower your resolution.

[Remilia Scarlet]

v1.0.1 is out.  This removes the debug messages and fixes some very minor things.  Also, the Overlord doesn't shoot those damn vertical lightning bolts on ITYTD/HNTR anymore.  The complete changelog and downloads are in the OP.

[KneeDeepintheSludgemetal]

Magnificent as always! Will play soon! 

[Sectorslayer]

On 1/20/2022 at 9:18 AM, Remilia Scarlet said:

Freaky Panties V is a map done entirely in Linux using only the Eureka level editor for mapping.  Yep, this was 100% made with Eureka. 

Most impressive! I already loved the first screenshots in that famous pictures thread. Relaxing music choice as well. I'll keeping an eye out for more Freaky Panties stuff!

How does working in Eureka worked out? Would you recommend it?

[Alfredo]

Penguins are indeed awesome. Congrats on the release!

[Remilia Scarlet]

1 hour ago, sectrslayr said:

How does working in Eureka worked out? Would you recommend it? 

I started out in the 90s with DEU, so the quirks of Eureka actually felt comfortable and familiar. I'm also someone who, in UDB, rarely found use for all those nifty new features and tools, like the curve tool or 3d floor handling or the slope mode. I was already doing all that by hand out of habit in UDB, so Eureka was not a big jump.

 

I think I'd recommend Eureka for those who don't mind learning a different way of doing things, and can live without UDMF and PK3s (though looking at the source, apparently UDMF is being worked on). But really, at the end of the day, it's kinda the same as with operating systems: use what works for you. I use Linux because it works best for me. My wife uses Windows for the same reason. I might start using Eureka a lot more now because I've found some features of it simply irresistible, like it's browser panel :9 But not for all my maps yet.

 

On a side note, I did have to modify the source slightly to support a newer FLTK so I could use it on my 4k screen when I went from my laptop to desktop. If you have a 4k screen, I'd highly recommend waiting a while ;^)

[Scuba Steve]

On 1/20/2022 at 6:56 AM, LuciferSam86 said:

Oh a quick note for the people who want to try this level : you have to use the wad edition of OTEX, not the pk3 .

This seems like an oversight. I could not get flats to load until I read this comment... whatever is causing this should probably be rectified.

[LuciferSam86]

1 hour ago, Scuba Steve said:

This seems like an oversight. I could not get flats to load until I read this comment... whatever is causing this should probably be rectified.

IIRC I read the same thing in another thread for another WAD, so when I saw the pk3 version of OTEX didn't work was automatic for me to try the wad version of OTEX.

[Remilia Scarlet]

3 hours ago, Scuba Steve said:

This seems like an oversight. I could not get flats to load until I read this comment... whatever is causing this should probably be rectified.

Opening the PK3 and comparing it to the WAD, the PK3 is technically missing some things due to the naming scheme.  The flats in the wad are named Oblah (that's a capital O), while the pk3 has 0blah (that's a zero).  The flat OLGHTG09 is an example.

Edited January 22, 2022 by Remilia Scarlet

[Scuba Steve]

Paging @ukiro...

[Remilia Scarlet]

Here's a fresh pk3 from the OTEX wad that I made just now with the correct flat filenames using my own tools.  It seems to work in GZDoom and K8Vavoom for Freaky Panties 5, but I didn't do any extensive testing.  Note that some flats are named the same as textures, like OBASEK33, which looks similar though the wall texture version is a different size.  So maybe that's why the flats were renamed.  I'd say that the renaming of the flats breaks parity with the wad version, however, making it so that the pk3 isn't a drop-in replacement for the wad.  Of course, any levels that are dependent on the naming scheme of the PK3 will depend on the PK3 now :-P

 

https://www.partition36.com/random-stuff/otex-1.1-fixed-flats.pk3

SHA1: 0a1b9b18d6cbce2fd446f47e0b9fae20113733d0

Edited January 22, 2022 by Remilia Scarlet

[ukiro]

14 hours ago, Scuba Steve said:

Paging @ukiro...

i created otex from a wad perspective, never having used pk3’s. In a wad, the engine has no trouble distinguishing a texture from a flat since they are different formats and never interchangeable in vanilla or boom formats. So when there’s a texture I also wanted as a flat, I simply named it the same. This makes editing more comfortable, for me at least. 
 

but in a pk3 there’s no telling a floor from a wall, and even if they’re in separate folders the engine makes a single index of all assets, which would then have duplicates. The solution was to change the leading O for flats to a zero. 

[Remilia Scarlet]

50 minutes ago, ukiro said:

i created otex from a wad perspective, never having used pk3’s. In a wad, the engine has no trouble distinguishing a texture from a flat since they are different formats and never interchangeable in vanilla or boom formats. So when there’s a texture I also wanted as a flat, I simply named it the same. This makes editing more comfortable, for me at least. 
 

but in a pk3 there’s no telling a floor from a wall, and even if they’re in separate folders the engine makes a single index of all assets, which would then have duplicates. The solution was to change the leading O for flats to a zero.  

Yeah, I understand the perspective you created it from.  That makes total sense, especially since even lumps can have duplicate names, similar to how two files in separate folders in a PK3 can have the same name.

 

But the PK3 behavior you mention seems inconsistent.  Technically some engines (but not all) that support PK3s also support mixing of the wad namespaces so that flats can be used on walls and vice versa.  The ZDoom wiki (the closest thing I can think of to a standard for this, at least for ZDoom-style PK3s) specifically lists the flats/ folder for the equivalent to FF_START..FF_END, and textures/ being the equivalent to TX_START..TX_END.  So I'd assume GZDoom looks for a texture name on a floor/ceiling in flats/ first, then fall back to looking in textures/ second.. but I can't tell for sure :-P  My experiment earlier where I renamed the leading zero to an O seemed to work fine for this specific level in GZDoom and K8Vavoom, the two target engines.

Short vs Long texture names in UDMF levels complicate things, too, yes?  A long texture name is definitive.  But how a short texture name is resolved to an absolute file in a PK3 seems to have no documentation and is effectively a crap shoot, and a Hexen format level (like this one) is effectively all short texture names.  In fact I opened a ticket about this with K8Vavoom after chatting with Ketmar about it in a DM while working on my own tools, because I was tired of wracking my brain on the resolution order :-P

Not saying you're wrong, but I do think the issue isn't quite so cut and dry.  I don't think it warrants you fixing anything, though.  I think it's just a quirk of working with Doom.  Doom is the Perl of game engines.

 

Anyway, that's a bit off topic.  For those wanting to play Freaky Panties 5, just use the WAD version of OTEX 1.1.

Edited January 23, 2022 by Remilia Scarlet

[Gez]

1 hour ago, Remilia Scarlet said:

But the PK3 behavior you mention seems inconsistent.  Technically some engines (but not all) that support PK3s also support mixing of the wad namespaces so that flats can be used on walls and vice versa.  The ZDoom wiki (the closest thing I can think of to a standard for this, at least for ZDoom-style PK3s) specifically lists the flats/ folder for the equivalent to FF_START..FF_END, and textures/ being the equivalent to TX_START..TX_END.  So I'd assume GZDoom looks for a texture name on a floor/ceiling in flats/ first, then fall back to looking in textures/ second.. but I can't tell for sure :-P  My experiment earlier where I renamed the leading zero to an O seemed to work fine for this specific level in GZDoom and K8Vavoom, the two target engines.

The issue here is that there are three different texture namespaces.

1. The flat texture namespace is F_START/F_END or /flats/.
2. The wall texture namespace is TEXTURE1, TEXTURE2, and TEXTURES (when using WallTexture keyword).
3. The TX_START/TX_END or /textures/ namespace is the override namespace, which has priority on both flats and wall textures.

Basically the system was not designed to have TEXTUREx-defined textures be converted to /textures/ lumps.

[Remilia Scarlet]

7 hours ago, Gez said:

The issue here is that there are three different texture namespaces.

1. The flat texture namespace is F_START/F_END or /flats/.
2. The wall texture namespace is TEXTURE1, TEXTURE2, and TEXTURES (when using WallTexture keyword).
3. The TX_START/TX_END or /textures/ namespace is the override namespace, which has priority on both flats and wall textures.

Basically the system was not designed to have TEXTUREx-defined textures be converted to /textures/ lumps.

Oh thank you! That clears up some things.

[Clippy]

@Biodegradable recommended this to me and I'm glad he did. I'm so glad he was here to help me because geez I seem to be easily confused these days

 

This map is the complete package. It has everything. Absolutely stunning and ridiculously well detailed areas. Which also has fantastic combat and great gameplay. And secrets which is my jam. And a wacky surprise at the end. 

 

So cool! 

 

 

[Remilia Scarlet]

1 hour ago, Clippy said:

@Biodegradable recommended this to me and I'm glad he did. I'm so glad he was here to help me because geez I seem to be easily confused these days

 

This map is the complete package. It has everything. Absolutely stunning and ridiculously well detailed areas. Which also has fantastic combat and great gameplay. And secrets which is my jam. And a wacky surprise at the end. 

 

So cool!

lol this was incredibly amusing and hilarious.  Bio was on the right train of thought, though: my maps are very much designed to teach you not to rush forward and to instead take your time.  I suppose I make maps very differently than others ^_^  I considered putting more text messages in to help people navigate, but when I've done that before, people have complained that I put too many in.  Maybe I'll put them in only on Easy and Normal equivalents 🤔

 

I saw a minor texture bug in the video, as well as two problems with the Overlord fight.  A megasphere should spawn in that pillar that lowers, but apparently it's not spawning in GZDoom (only K8).  Something I missed during testing, it seems.  Also yeah, that cheese-like room you got in was unintentional.  I'll get out v1.0.2 soon, which should (I hope) be the final version.  Thank you so much!

[Clippy]

4 minutes ago, Remilia Scarlet said:

lol this was incredibly amusing and hilarious.  Bio was on the right train of thought, though: my maps are very much designed to teach you not to rush forward and to instead take your time.  I suppose I make maps very differently than others ^_^  I considered putting more text messages in to help people navigate, but when I've done that before, people have complained that I put too many in.  Maybe I'll put them in only on Easy and Normal equivalents 🤔

 

I saw a minor texture bug in the video, as well as two problems with the Overlord fight.  A megasphere should spawn in that pillar that lowers, but apparently it's not spawning in GZDoom (only K8).  Something I missed during testing, it seems.  Also yeah, that cheese-like room you got in was unintentional.  I'll get out v1.0.2 soon, which should (I hope) be the final version.  Thank you so much!

 

Yeah feel bad about cheese but that creature was terrifying - but feel less bad knowing I didn't get a megasphere either - seems like the universe balanced itself out for me. Glad to know my vid was fun and helpful - the benefit of playtesting.

[Remilia Scarlet]

Ok, v1.0.2 is out.  This should fix the megasphere not appearing during the final fight on GZDoom, and updates a few small things.  Complete changelog and downloads in the OP.