UAC bad to work for?

[Merry Widow]

If the UAC is a bunch of assholes to work for, why do you think the doomguys work for them? My personal take is that the marines try to make it better in spite of it all. And yes I know this is a dumb question, but I'm interested in other opinions, silly or serious. Thank you.

[MoreMending]

I think they were probably drafted, and only the fittest were drafted as marines.

[Faceman2000]

Does he work for the UAC? Or does he work for the Marines who have a contract with the UAC? I always thought it was the latter.

[Tetzlaff]

In Doom 3 the UAC isn‘t that bad. 

[thiccyosh]

The UAC also doesn't care if there are deadly poison pits inside the base, since OSHA doesn't exist on Mars. Another reason to not work for the UAC.

[Marisa the Magician]

Earth's laws don't apply on Mars, ergo, they can get away with anything to save in costs.

[Thelokk]

UAC is basically the backrooms of military skunkworks. The momma spider you murdered in E3 was probably your HR head. 

[idbeholdME]

I think that in the Doom universe, UAC is de facto THE corporation. As in, the biggest, overly ambitious, pretty much without any serious competition and dabbling in whatever will bring profit and progress, no matter the cost, as shown in Doom 3 with their overly ambitious teleportation experiments that started the whole demon invasion thing.

 

But yeah, as mentioned above, I also think that Marines are just hired mercenaries to protect the UAC's numerous assets and act as the corporation's muscle.

[Gez]

In Classic Doom canon, UAC is just the owner of the facilities; but they're rented to the military and it's the military who do the experiments. We can't tell much about how the UAC treats its employees; however it does not seem to be very concerned by OSHA given the distinctive lack of railing around nukage vats and various other hazards.

 

In Doom 3, the UAC has shifted to become, through mad scientist stereotype Doctor Betruger, the primary responsible for the demonic invasion disaster. But the military is complicit. It's pretty clear that working for the UAC is a terrible experience; at least for the personnel stationed on Mars. (Cf. all the personal data pads complaining about everything being awful and dysfunctional.)

 

In the latest incarnation, the UAC has moved to be full-time antagonist as it seems pretty much the entire hierarchy has been taken over by demon cultists. Employees are ritually sacrificed and stuff; there's a "revenant program" to turn people into rocket skellingtons, and all that jazz. For the employees who are not cultists, it certainly sucks. For the employees who are cultists, it also sucks but that's what they want apparently, so they can't complain.

[DannyMan]

Evil Corporation Jumble

[BaileyTW]

The UAC has no regard for occupational safety. Would it kill them to add some handrails around those pits of nuclear sludge? NO! It'd do the opposite in fact.

Here's what it would look like if the UAC was not an evil organization and did care for the safety of their workers and demonic guests.

[gwain]

19 hours ago, Widow said:

If the UAC is a bunch of assholes to work for, why do you think the doomguys work for them? My personal take is that the marines try to make it better in spite of it all. And yes I know this is a dumb question, but I'm interested in other opinions, silly or serious. Thank you.

Seems Government funded there probably getting paid around 32 usd an hour so if the marines get sent off the planet where they cant have a break so its alot of money a year who cares about space osha violations at that point

Edited January 23, 2022 by gwain

[horselessheadsman]

Keep in mind Doomguy got sent to Mars as punishment for assaulting a superior officer(one who gave orders to fire on civilians, mind) because it
was the last place a Marine could ever expect to see any action. No matter how remote the post, bored soldiers are a recipe for trouble, so his
local superiors had him and the others gopher for the UAC egg-heads. It's not like they had anything better to do, besides watching "restricted"
flicks.
The portal experiments were apparently rather tame and humdrum until the volunteers started inexplicably going crazy or exploding after a portal trip.

[Captain POLAND]

PTMC from the Descent series is probably worse.

[7Mahonin]

Marines don’t have a say in their post duties. If they’re deployed to Mars or its moons they’re going to do their job or they’ll be court marshaled. It doesn’t matter if the marines like the UAC or not, it is their assignment and their orders are to defend UAC assets and personnel, no questions asked. How the player’s marine, doomguy got assigned to this post was due to him being demoted due to striking an officer and refusing direct orders (to fire upon civilians) while on a mission on earth, he likely had a choice: go to the UAC bases and do grunt work or be put on trial and court marshaled and be dishonorably discharged from the Corp. Nobody wants to be labeled an Ex Marine (which is the proper term for marines who were dishonorably discharged), so he didn’t argue against his demotion. 

Edited January 23, 2022 by TelicAx7

[Chezza]

I suppose it depends on which department and station of UAC you work for. It's suggested the UAC is the largest corporation so there should be many different sub cultures in the company. You may find some middle management very nice down to earth people, maybe some departments like software development (assuming they do some of that) is away from most of the weapon, biological, teleportation tech etc.

 

But being the UAC, you could be very unlucky and unknowingly be part of an experiment (Fallout vault vibes) or just be a victim of their more nefarious projects. I can imagine this applies in all variations of UAC depicted in the Doom universe.

 

Top management though, I'd say is guaranteed most are corrupted. Or just cold, driven and dethatched individuals (like many CEOs / Directors in massive corporations). 

[Doomkid]

3 hours ago, BaileyTW said:

The UAC has no regard for occupational safety. Would it kill them to add some handrails around those pits of nuclear sludge? NO! It'd do the opposite in fact.

Here's what it would look like if the UAC was not an evil organization and did care for the safety of their workers and demonic guests.

 

 

...I'm getting a strange urge to go through the entirety of Doom and add all the railings, access ramps, caution signs, and other such things necessary to get the facilities up to code...

 

Also, even if the UAC weren't "bad guys" (even though they're clearly doing dodgy shit) it would still be bad to work for them, because regardless of their intentions the result is being stuck smack dab in the middle of a Hell invasion where most people died or became mutants, lol. I'd say that qualifies as bad!

[BaileyTW]

3 minutes ago, Doomkid said:

 

...I'm getting a strange urge to go through the entirety of Doom and add all the railings, access ramps, caution signs, and other such things necessary to get the facilities up to code...

Doom The Way OSHA Did

Edited January 23, 2022 by BaileyTW

[xX_Lol6_Xx]

20 minutes ago, Doomkid said:

 

...I'm getting a strange urge to go through the entirety of Doom and add all the railings, access ramps, caution signs, and other such things necessary to get the facilities up to code...

It'd be interesting to see those changes in place, now that I think about it...

[DoomPlayer00]

3 hours ago, BaileyTW said:

The UAC has no regard for occupational safety. Would it kill them to add some handrails around those pits of nuclear sludge? NO! It'd do the opposite in fact.

Here's what it would look like if the UAC was not an evil organization and did care for the safety of their workers and demonic guests.

From now on my official headcanon for lack of safety rails is that demons removed them to make the base look more evil.

[boris]

Doomguy was young and needed the money.

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

35 minutes ago, boris said:

Doomguy was young and needed the money.

Yeah, that's why he took the job in HDOOM.

[Gez]

1 hour ago, Captain POLAND said:

PTMC from the Descent series is probably worse.

See also Vault-Tec, Liandri, Cerberus, Wayland-Yutani, TriOptimum, Omni Consumer Products, and the Umbrella Corporation. Also shout out to GenEmp, Phylex, PTC, MetaCorp, and other Doom engine game friends!

 

See also basically everything from https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilInc.

[BaileyTW]

59 minutes ago, DoomPlayer00 said:

From now on my official headcanon for lack of safety rails is that demons removed them to make the base look more evil.

a hell knight evily laughing to himself as he installs an inward closing door at the exit of a building with an uncleated 2 foot high by 5 foot long ramp (thus making it too steep to comply to regulation).

[Ludi]

2 hours ago, Doomkid said:

 

...I'm getting a strange urge to go through the entirety of Doom and add all the railings, access ramps, caution signs, and other such things necessary to get the facilities up to code...

 

OSHA Approved Community Project?

Edited January 24, 2022 by Sr_Ludicolo

[Ludi]

1 hour ago, TheMagicMushroomMan said:

Yeah, that's why he took the job in HDOOM.

 

I mean, would you not?

[roadworx]

15 hours ago, Tetzlaff said:

In Doom 3 the UAC isn‘t that bad. 

what

 

did we play the same doom 3??? it seemed awful

Edited January 24, 2022 by roadworx

[Dubbag]

The UAC is a disgusting nihilistic company who cares not for any human life or virtue. I think it would be a terrible place to be at. Just listen to the PDA logs of employees in Doom 3. That's all you need to know. Any company that is stupid and careless enough to send innocent people to research Hell itself and subject multiple people to such a horrible fate with out fear of consequences while they know about them is absolutely horrible.It's like building the Pyramids, just throwing human death and suffering at a situation to achieve your goals.

Edited January 24, 2022 by Dubbag

[RonLivingston]

I usually think that UAC can be a company run by hellspawn

[Bri]

They must pay ok, though. I didn't hear anyone complaining about bad wages in Doom 3.