Guess the Map! [31st Secret edition] (New hints!)

[galileo31dos01]

Previous editions: 15 (click on it to find the rest)

 

 

Congratulations, you've found the secret edition! Looks like it's been built by a lazy ass procrastinator, rather than demons. You wonder what the theme of this corner of maps will be.... well here is the preamble, now to the point! The 31st edition is a special treat as per last minute decision, this time the maps belong to secret and/or bonus slots, with some to be considered additional or extra -- not included in the main wad. Now because it's a special restriction from my part, the number of maps will be limited to 16, so as to not overdo things. The rules are the following:

 

- Answers MUST be hidden in spoilers, no exceptions. If you don't use the spoiler option, your guesses won't count.

- Assistance is fine if you aren't completely sure about your guess, we're only strict about the first rule.

 

New hints: March 23rd

Answers: March 26th

 

 

01

Spoiler

1. As part of a multiplayer-centric map, each player meets different areas inside a classic tech-base

2. On single player, you ought to make a careful vanilla jump at one point to reach the secret exit without cheats

 

Spoiler

3. ENTO

 

 

02

 

Spoiler

1. Almost entirely drawn in tan/metal, similar to the original E4M9

2. Speaking of M9s, the BGM is from Heretic's first secret map

 

Spoiler

3. WNOF

 

 

03

 

Spoiler

1. A massive lengthy demon invasion happens in that C-shaped area, in which a block of archviles do their best to prevent skipping

2. The final sequence of fights happens at the northern point and is very congested, requiring deft rocket use to control a gasbags invasion

 

Spoiler

3. NGER

 

 

04

 

Spoiler

1. Thematically an outsider in the wad, though not without its insurgence of alienstic creatures

2. One of the two secrets is behind a passable bloodfall and it teleports you onto an arachnotron's nose and its soulsphere

 

Spoiler

3. CIEN

 

 

05

 

Spoiler

1. Sinister is in the BGM and the presences of immobile monsters in the centre

2. In contrast to the original map that this tried to remix, you do combat the monsters with more options than rockets

 

Spoiler

3. NIA

 

 

06

 

Spoiler

1. It was designed as a parody of a certain console-exclusive map 

2. Not meant to run in chocolate doom, given that it's both beyond the limits and in a special slot

 

Spoiler

3. AYID

 

 

07

 

 

Spoiler

1. In the ol' days, to read the name of the team members in pretty colours, you needed to access this isolated map

2. Probably one of the few maps the team provided that doesn't have a puzzle

 

Spoiler

3. TERN

 

 

08

 

Spoiler

1. The skull on the ground resembles the skull in the megawad's midi pack's TITLEPIC

2. Oh, so that on top is the name of the map? well, no second hint then...

 

Spoiler

3. ON!

 

 

09

 

Spoiler

1. The ROTT track already sets the tone in this super gray map

2. You don't want to miss the early BFG secret, a super congested cyberdemons fight happens nearing the end

 

Spoiler

3. ADES

 

 

10

 

Spoiler

1. A feeling of deja vu invades your mind, as this is partially identical to the first episode starter of the wad

2. Yes, just like Warrens does it, but switched up a bit

 

Spoiler

3. TCHE

 

 

11

 

Spoiler

1. You were going up very well, then decided to jump off a window and land here, a nazi basement!

2. Apparently them nazis really wanted to claim the precious red skull you need to escape

 

Spoiler

3. VATO

 

 

12

 

Spoiler

1. An evil enemy of your main character had escaped in the previous map, you must find him here, lurking inside the buildings

2. There is a secret exit here, accessible only with help from a clown

 

Spoiler

3. MAN

 

 

13

Spoiler

1. There are at least two important areas with teleport/telepads playfulness, which I'm sure puzzle enthusiasts adored back in the day

2. I wonder how many folks have exhaustively tried their best to find the secret exit using nothing else but a joystick...

 

Spoiler

3. SION

 

 

14

 

Spoiler

1. After a congested BFG trial against archviles in the northern room, you can either choose the normal exit or an alternative neon purple sign saying "Thanks for playing"

2. It's really tempting to use the former archvile to send you to the health spheres on the corners

 

Spoiler

3. TARD

 

 

15

 

Spoiler

1. You wander in a space station orbiting the Earth in search for survivors, though what you end up running into isn't at all what you expected... if they don't run into your face first...

2. "They" are dudes with suits that match the primary colour of the set, which is coincidentally a primary colour itself

 

Spoiler

3. PRIS

 

 

16

 

Spoiler

1. The core concept is about revisiting parts of the previous two episodes, now with a hellish/corrupted twist

2. This is part of an old megawad that received a new final episode last year, the map isn't exactly from that episode though

 

Spoiler

3. NATI

 

 

 

Good luck!

Edited March 24, 2022 by galileo31dos01

[Cammy]

Spoiler

03 - Umbreion Nils from Tangerine Nightmare. I still haven't survived that C-shaped area for myself, it's an absolutely horrific fight.

04 - Ossuarium Exoterre from Ancient Aliens. I'll admit it, the hint gave it away... it's been too long since I played AA.

09 - RevoltloveR from Thomas van der Velden's Revolution! - or more specifically, the bonus map he made for the MIDI Pack many years later. That skull is instantly recognizable, but so is the map's name in the top-right... Oops...

14 - Hyperspace from Stardate 20X6. Saw decino play this crazy thing a while back, would love to try it myself some day.

 

[NuMetalManiak]

Spoiler

1. MAP31 Technology Base from Memento Mori

2. Area at the bottom looks like the fountain area of Plutonia MAP06 but this has nothing to the theme here.

3. Tangerine Nightmare's bonus level I think (forgot mapslot)

4. Ancient Aliens MAP32

5. Plutonia 2 MAP31

6. D2TWID MAP33 Hexsoil

7. Taking one wild guess and saying it's the Credits map from Eternal Doom

8. MIDI Pack is a giveaway, Revolution MAP33

9. 50 Shades of Graytall MAP18

10. I have definitely seen and played this Warrens thing before, maybe it's from Switcheroom or something?

11. Hellevator MAP...31?

12. Batman Doom MAP31

13. The Mansion from PSX Doom

14. Neon purple, so Stardate 20X6's Hyperspace level (MAP31?)

15. my streak has ended.

16. My two best guesses are a secret level in Three's A Crowd or Doom: Damnation.

really really close to getting them all in the first go wow.

[Nefelibeta]

I don't know we're making a megawad.

 

Spoiler

03-tn.wad map10

04-probably aa?

05-plutonia2 map31

08-revolution

14-stardate20x6 map31

 

[SiFi270]

Without hints:

Spoiler

5. Plutonia 2 Map31

8. Revolution Midi Pack Map33

With hints:

Spoiler

1. Memento Mori Map31

6. D2TWID Map33

7. Eternal Doom credits (Map27 in Eternal II, Map01 of its own wad in Eternal III)

12. Batman Doom Map31

13. PSX Doom Map58

14. Stardate 20X6 Map31

EDIT:

Spoiler

2. Dawn of the Dead E1M9

 

Edited March 21, 2022 by SiFi270

[Naan]

Spoiler

1. Memento Mori MAP31

5. Certainly a Cyberden tribute from one of the Plutonia inspired megawads
8. Credits map from Eternal Doom
10. Looks like some remake of E3M9 from memory, i'd say "Doom the way we remember it"?

 

[SilverMiner]

Spoiler

5 - pl2 map31
8 - tvr! map33
12 - batman doom map31

EDIT:

1 - mm2 map31

6 - d2twid map33

 

Edited March 21, 2022 by SilverMiner

[NaZa]

No hints

Spoiler

1. Memento Mori MAP31
2. Dawn of the Dead E1M9
3. -
4. BtSX E1M31
5. -
6. -
7. -
8. Revoltlover, Revolution!'s MAP33 iirc
9. what
10. A'ight that's just Warrens reimagined
11. -
12. -
13. No idea but not unfamiliar
14. -
15. -
16. -

 

With hints

Spoiler

1. Memento Mori MAP31
2. Dawn of the Dead E1M9
3. -
4. Nope it ain't
5. -
6. -
7. -
8. Revoltlover, Revolution!'s MAP33
9. -
10. -
11. -
12. -
13. -
14. -
15. -
16. -

 

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[galileo31dos01]

Additional hints have been added! 

[NuMetalManiak]

Spoiler

2. So this is Dawn of the Dead's secret level then.

7. Eternal Doom credits map confirmed

10. Switcheroom confirmed (E1M9?)

15. This is Uprising, one of the secret maps of course but I remember it because of the secret on the east side.

16. So it's not Three's a Crowd. Going with Doom: Damnation but I can't remember the actual ExM9.

wow probably got perfect on wad guesses.

[finnks13]

Pretty fun to try to figure this out again, knowing it was secret or bonus maps only definitely helped a lot when it came to narrowing it down. All of these guesses were with hints as I'm apparently awful at identifying automaps!

 

Spoiler

1. Memento Mori Map31
2. ?
3. Tangerine Nightmare Map10
4. Ancient Aliens Map32
5. Plutonia 2 Map31
6. Doom 2 the Way id Did Map33
7. Eternal Doom Map34 (think that's the slot the Credits map is on)
8. Revolution! Map33
9. 50 Shades of Graytall Map18
10. ?
11. Presumably Hellevator Map31
12. ?
13. ?
14. Stardate 20x6 Map31
15. Uprising Map31 (as an aside, this is probably the best implementation of a "Hunted" type map I've ever seen)
16. ?

 

 

[NaZa]

Spoiler

1. Memento Mori MAP31
2. Dawn of the Dead E1M9
3. -
4. Oh, so it's Ancient Aliens. Cool. Not sure which secret map though. Consulting the Wiki, it's MAP32, though again I'm not sure if me consulting the Wiki for map guesses is legal.
5. -
6. -
7. Credits from Eternal Doom? Hint helps a lot.
8. Revoltlover, Revolution!'s MAP33
9. -
10. -
11. -
12. Well those two hints were quite helpful. Despite never playing the set before, I'm positive it's Batman Doom MAP31, and the Wiki confirms it. Epic. Clown/MAN is a good one. 
13. Actually, that looks like that one The Mansion secret level. Console Doom iirc?
14. -
15. -
16. -

 

with new hints now, got some decent guesses ngl. still not as good as I'd hoped

[RjY]

I spotted half a dozen then deduced all the others by various methods that my conscience will not allow me to claim are guesses. Detective work is too much fun.
 

Spoiler

01 Memento Mori MAP31
02 Dawn of the Dead E1M9
05 Plutonia 2 MAP31
06 D2TWID MAP33
10 Switcheroom E2M9
14 Stardate20x6 MAP31

03 Tangerine Nightmare MAP10
07 Eternal Doom credits map, MAP34
08 TVR MIDI Pack bonus map, tvrmidi.wad MAP33
11 Hellevator MAP31
12 Batman Doom MAP31

04 Ancient Aliens MAP32
09 50 Shades of Graytall MAP18
13 PlayStation Doom MAP58 The Mansion
15 Uprising MAP31
16 Doom: Damnation E3M9
 

Spoiler

01 Immediately recognised, I know this map really well, I remember being extremely annoyed by the idea of making the secret exit inaccessible unless in co-op and then discovering the window jump that allows clearing the whole map, even if you only get one chance at it.
02 Immediately recognised, another map I've played repeatedly over the years, very memorable lighting and shadow casting.
05 Immediately recognised the layout as being one of the various Plutonia sequels' recreation of MAP31 Cyberden. The first one I looked through was Plutonia 2, which turned out to be correct, it was either that or PRCP.
06 I realised what this was after about 10 minutes of staring at it. I did think the middle square with four ledges was more like TNT28 Heck, but after a few more glances my brain threw up d2twid as an alternative to the various TNT remakes.
10 I immediately thought "Switcheroom" and from there it was a trivial matter to find the slot.
14 Another one where I realised what it was after 10 minutes staring, somehow I had missed there was a map31 in this wad when it was released and didn't play the map until summer 2020.

 

03 The author signature and date narrows it down to one or two wads, which the clues confirm. Since it is allowed to check guesses, I looked through the wad to find the right map.
07 I made an educated guess of Eternal Doom as an old wad with a credits map that is technically in a separate file. Since it is allowed to check guesses, I looked through the wad to find the right map.
08 "MIDI pack" implies a number of things, one of which is TVR. But I know TVR very well and am certain this map layout is not in it. However a few more moments thought recalled that TV himself had endorsed the midi pack by making a map for it. Since it is allowed to check guesses, I looked through the wad to find the right map.

11 Lucky search for maps with "basement" in the title.
12 This is probably from a TC since Doomguy does not have specific evil enemies that escape from him. I guessed Batman and it turned out to be right.
 

04 From sight, this is obviously a Skillsaw map, or someone from the same school of mapping at any rate. Now, galileo has carefully listed all the wads he has ever played in his Doomworld profile so it is a simple matter to Ctrl+F "CIEN". This immediately turns up "Ancient Aliens". Since it is allowed to check guesses, you know how the rest of this sentence goes by now.
09 I was sure I had never played this or I would have remembered the northeast spiral tunnel, but the name clue "ADES" made me reconsider the previous "gray" clue, and I thought "50 shades?" No wonder it seemed familiar, I have not played 50shades, but it seems to come up a lot in these contests, so I have looked through the wad often enough to be gaining familiarity with the layouts nonetheless.
13 I spent ages staring at this as I was sure I had seen it before but no name sprang to mind until the second clue suggested it was a console map. So I have seen it before because I have looked through the console maps several times. (Is there a conversion of this map you can play on a real computer, like d64d2?)
15 Ctrl+F "PRIS" on galileo's wads played list (see #04).
16 Ctrl+F "NATI" on galileo's wads played list (see #04, #15).

 

 

[Shepardus]

Spoiler

4. Ancient Aliens MAP32

7. Eternal Doom MAP34

8. Revolution! MIDI Pack MAP33

10. Switcheroom E2M9

12. Batman Doom MAP31

Wouldn't have gotten any of these without the hints!

[Crusader No Regret]

Taking a swing finding that I'm not good a recognizing maps by the automap.  Barring unusual stuff like map 8 from JPCP.

 

All guesses used at least one hint.

 

Spoiler

 

1. Memento Mori map 31  Got it after the second hint.

7. Eternal Doom CREDITS map

10. (redacted)  Dammit, Warrens was my wild guess.  I got nothing

14. Stardate 20x6 map 31  Watch me miss this for misspelling the WAD name.

 

 

[galileo31dos01]

And the answers are...

 

 

01. Memento Mori, MAP31 (NuMetalManiak, SiFi270, Naan, SilverMiner, NaZa, finnks13, RjY, Crusader No Regret)

02. Dawn of the Dead, E1M9 (SiFi270, NaZa, NuMetalManiak, RjY)

 

03. Tangerine Nightmare, MAP10 (Cammy, NuMetalManiak wad guess, Nefelibeta, finnks13, RjY)

 

04. Ancient Aliens, MAP32 (Cammy, NuMetalManiak, Nefelibeta wad guess though it's "aaliens", finnks13, NaZa totally legal answer, RjY, Shepardus)

05. Plutonia 2, MAP31 (NuMetalManiak, Nefelibeta, SiFi270, SilverMiner, finnks13, RjY)

06. D2TWID, MAP33 (NuMetalManiak, SiFi270, SilverMiner, finnks13, RjY)

 

07. Eternal Doom, credits map (NuMetalManiak, SiFi270, finnks13, NaZa, RjY, Shepardus, Crusader No Regret)

08. Revolution! or TVR! midi pack, MAP33 (NuMetalManiak, Nefelibeta, SiFi270, Naan, SilverMiner, NaZa, finnks13, RjY, Shepardus)

 

09. 50 Shades of Graytall, MAP18 (Cammy, NuMetalManiak, finnks13, RjY)

10. Switcheroom, E2M9 (NuMetalManiak wad guess but wrong slot, RjY, Shepardus)

 

11. Hellevator, MAP31 (NuMetalManiak, finnks13 presumed correctly, RjY)

12. Batman Doom, MAP31 (NuMetalManiak, SiFi270, SilverMiner, NaZa, RjY, Shepardus)

13. PSX Doom, MAP58 The Mansion (NuMetalManiak, SiFi270, NaZa map guess but which console though?, RjY)

14. Stardate20x6, MAP31 (Cammy, NuMetalManiak, Nefelibeta, SiFi270, finnks13, RjY, Crusader No Regret)

15. Uprising, MAP31 (NuMetalManiak wad guess, finnks13, RjY)

16. Doom: Damnation, E3M9 (NuMetalManiak wad guess, RjY)

 

 

And so the secret edition concludes with probably one of the best outputs as at least two people guessed everything correctly! 

 

Fun fact, the screenshot from 13 is actually Kaiser's conversion of the PSX map to PC vanilla doom, which can be found here. I simply assumed that most everyone would say it's the PSX one, which wouldn't be far from correct anyways, and I don't have any psx doom editors installed to take a snap of the actual console map. 

 

On another note, I noticed that most people who guessed the Eternal Doom map said it's 34, I thought I was the only one that imported the map on that slot for myself so that I didn't need to load additional wads. RjY's explanation about my personal list made me laugh a bit.

[RjY]

Many thanks. Should have figured that if anyone had made a PC version of a console map it would be Kaiser. Now I see he did the whole set.

FWIW I called the Eternal Doom credits map MAP34 because the wiki has it in that slot. Even though it goes on to say it is supplied as MAP01 in a separate file. I figured there must be a reason for this numbering, so just now I redownloaded the whole wad package. It turns out the full eternal.txt, inside the zip, also lists it as MAP34. So the creators officially denoted it that way. Mystery solved?

[RHhe82]

Damn, I didn’t even bother answering because all maps looked so foreign… but I should have known #3 and #4, having played both of them recently :(