So i just registered the domain DOOM.gay...

[Gez]

1 hour ago, Zulk RS said:

Ah thanks it makes a lot more sense now. So ah... assuming someone shells out the 185K for registration and another 25K for maintenance, how do they make that money back?

Well, the primary purpose of a TLD is to have sites that use it, and so if you register the TLD .pancakes, you expect that people will want to register addresses in your .pancakes domain. If you expect, say, to have 10 thousand clients that want a .pancakes address, to break even you only need to make registering a .pancakes site cost $18.50 and annual maintenance cost $2.50.

[Koko Ricky]

Why would gay people need their own fan site? It's not like they're being rejected here. 

[Scypek2]

Why have a forum about one game specifically when it would be perfectly acceptable to discuss it on a forum about games in general? "doom+gay" is a more esoteric category, as evidenced by all the baffled people here, but the same logic still applies.

Edited April 3, 2022 by Scypek2

[Zulk RS]

6 hours ago, Gez said:

Well, the primary purpose of a TLD is to have sites that use it, and so if you register the TLD .pancakes, you expect that people will want to register addresses in your .pancakes domain. If you expect, say, to have 10 thousand clients that want a .pancakes address, to break even you only need to make registering a .pancakes site cost $18.50 and annual maintenance cost $2.50.

 

I see. So that's how it works. And what happens to all the people with .pancake addresses if I stop paying the yearly fee? Do their websites just get deleted?

[Gez]

40 minutes ago, Zulk RS said:

I see. So that's how it works. And what happens to all the people with .pancake addresses if I stop paying the yearly fee? Do their websites just get deleted?

No, but they do get very difficult to reach until/unless they have a different address.

 

The way the Internet works: you have a server, with content on it. That's your web host. This server has an IP address that is a number, like 137.245.82.143 in IPv4. (Random value from keyboard mashing.) Such an address sucks as far as humans are concerned, because we suck at remembering numbers. Source: I can't even remember my own phone number. Therefore, we invented name servers. So we enter a much better address like "www.macaroni.pancakes", and the name server says that the number for it is 137.245.82.143, so when you tell your browser to go to to www.macaroni.pancakes, it consults the name server and translates that to 137.245.82.143.

 

If the pancakes TLD ceases existing, then the name server will be unable to tell what's the address of www.macaroni.pancakes and people will not be able to reach the site unless they somehow know what the IP address is. But the site itself still exists because your web host is not the same as your domain registrar.

 

That's a gross simplification, though. Because matching names to numbers is actually a lot more complicated than that thanks to dynamic IPs and IP sharing and a lot of other shenanigans that means that sometimes knowing the IP address is not enough to reach a functional version of the site. It was, in the very early days of the Internet, but it's not anymore. (Also we've moved to IPv6 now but their addresses are more annoying to type, what with being eight groups of four hex values, so I stuck with IPv4 for my bullshit example.)

Edited April 3, 2022 by Gez

[scalliano]

18 hours ago, Crystal-Hawk_D00M said:

An lgbt exclusive doom forum.

Isn't gatekeeping supposed to be a bad thing? :P

[Zulk RS]

39 minutes ago, Gez said:

<lot of stuff>

 

Thanks! That was very informative and I now have an answer to both my questions.

[Nikku4211]

20 hours ago, 666shooter said:

In seriousness, I'm not really sure how many LGBT Wads exist. That could be an interesting topic to focus on?

I'm not even sure how a WAD about homosexuality or bisexuality would be like.

 

...well, assuming you're not talking about the IdGames directory the YouFailIt mirror dares not to cover.

 

Like, Doom isn't really a game about romance of any kind. Not counting what could be going on between Doomguy and his weapons.

 

Sure, you could say that one of your original characters is this or that sexuality, or this or that identity, but that typically won't factor into the premise of your average (even for the standards of OC WADs) Doom WAD.

 

I mean, you could be creative I guess and make a whole canon about a relationship and tie it to your WAD.

 

I can't imagine a lot of Doom WAD authors, regardless of their orientation or identity, would do this though.

I'd love (and not that kind of love) to be proven wrong so that I can have one more interesting WAD to record a cazh FDA-approved demo for.

[Dweller Dark]

1 hour ago, Nikku4211 said:

I mean, you could be creative I guess and make a whole canon about a relationship and tie it to your WAD.

 

A neat idea for a WAD like that could be a story similar to what happens in Prey 2006, your protagonist's loved one gets kidnapped and the whole game is about reaching them. But by the time you do, it's too late and they've already been turned into some nightmarish entity barely recognizable as who they once were. Doom technically has a similar thing with the Daisy subplot, but the story wasn't centered on it.

[Nikku4211]

1 hour ago, Eddie 2077 said:

Doom technically has a similar thing with the Daisy subplot, but the story wasn't centered on it.

As in Doom 2016, Doom Eternal, or original Doom?

 

Because the original Doom was more like John Wick where the protagonist's pet was killed and the protagonist avenges her death. I don't remember the pet becoming some nightmarish entity barely recognisable as who they once were.

 

Hm... demon bunny...

[continuum.mid]

On 4/2/2022 at 4:28 PM, KEKZ said:

I don't have a SSL-Certificate yet, so only "http://" works.

Note, if you have a Linux server the easiest way to get an SSL certificate by far is certbot.

[Dweller Dark]

42 minutes ago, Nikku4211 said:

As in Doom 2016, Doom Eternal, or original Doom?

 

Original Doom. But I never thought that Daisy was really a main part of the plot, since it feels like fighting demons and descending into Hell is 90% of the story. And then Daisy either doesn't show up in later games or is turned into an easter egg of some sort. 

 

An LGBT WAD about a gay, bi, or other person tearing through Hell to rescue their loved one would probably be at least decent, though. 

[Nikku4211]

1 hour ago, Eddie 2077 said:

 

Original Doom. But I never thought that Daisy was really a main part of the plot, since it feels like fighting demons and descending into Hell is 90% of the story. And then Daisy either doesn't show up in later games or is turned into an easter egg of some sort. 

Yeah, Daisy was never the focus.

 

I thought you meant similar as in 'character kidnapped and becomes an unrecognisable... thing but isn't main focus of story', not as in simply 'character kidnapped but isn't main focus of story and doesn't become unrecognisable... thing'.

 

I don't remember Daisy turning into this.

 

1 hour ago, Eddie 2077 said:

An LGBT WAD about a gay, bi, or other person tearing through Hell to rescue their loved one would probably be at least decent, though. 

 

It would be okay, even if it's really just your average bare-bones premise, as this premise would not be much different from the arcade game Splatterhouse's premise and Ultimate Doom episode 4's premise.

 

Representation might be important to some extent, I guess, but still.

[Jello]

5 hours ago, Eddie 2077 said:

 

A neat idea for a WAD like that could be a story similar to what happens in Prey 2006, your protagonist's loved one gets kidnapped and the whole game is about reaching them. But by the time you do, it's too late and they've already been turned into some nightmarish entity barely recognizable as who they once were. Doom technically has a similar thing with the Daisy subplot, but the story wasn't centered on it.

Dammit, why does nobody use "SPOILERS" anymore! Well, guess I'm never going to bother finishing that game. 

 

Spoiler

I'm being sarcastic if it's not obvious. I kept meaning to go back to the game, got pretty far at one point, but never finished it. Interesting enough premise though, but I have a hard time going back to Doom 3 engine games. Something feels extremely clunky about them. Maybe I'll try it again sometime.

 

But yeah, Daisy was never really an integral part of Doom. The first time "Daisy" is shown as a head on a spike. It's not until the end of E4 that it mentions "That it was his pet rabbit Daisy and he's holding the exact same head as seen at the end of E3. It was more of a joke than anything, Doomguy isn't really that pissed about the giant burning city behind, but somebody has to pay for Daisy. I'm just wondering why Daisy was all the way out there in a field, and why a demon apparently felt like tearing her head off and putting it on a spike.

 

Wait, maybe this whole thing is more nuanced than I thought at first. No... no it's not. People just latched onto Daisy and she's neither seen nor mentioned again until Doom: Eternal when she was thrown in as a little Easter Egg throughout the levels, and several environmental references. 

 

Well, I just checked, apparently she was mentioned in Quake: Championship, well, her foot was. And Doom 2016 in a poster, which I forgot about, been awhile since I played that.

 

4 hours ago, Nikku4211 said:

As in Doom 2016, Doom Eternal, or original Doom?

 

Because the original Doom was more like John Wick where the protagonist's pet was killed and the protagonist avenges her death. I don't remember the pet becoming some nightmarish entity barely recognisable as who they once were.

 

Hm... demon bunny...

 

I'll say one thing, you certainly don't want to mess with them: