/idgames Wad Uploader Form

[Zylinderkatze]

One more thing.. 

 

..this kind of belongs here but also maybe kind of doesn't? (If it doesn't, please remove).

 

I received the "Idgames upload verification--please reply" mail (Id "11822") but upon replying to it (to the default "replyto"-address: "idgmaint@abydos.com") with just the content "URE2020.WAD, URE2020.TXT" I received an "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender" response. I then tried again with "idgmaint@gamers.org" but with the same result.

 

"What do?"

 

Mail body:

Spoiler

This is the mail system at host va1.abydos.com.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

The mail system

<bloodshedder@doomworld.com> (expanded from <idgmaint@abydos.com>): host
mail.doomworld.com[69.164.207.121] said: 550 5.7.1
<bloodshedder@doomworld.com>: Recipient address rejected: Message rejected
due to: SPF fail - not authorized. Please see
http://www.openspf.net/Why?s=mfrom;id=zylinderkatze@gmx.net;ip=96.241.119.115;r=bloodshedder@doomworld.com
(in reply to RCPT TO command)

Mail status attachment:

Spoiler

Reporting-MTA: dns; va1.abydos.com
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: F0AC840EBD
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; zylinderkatze@gmx.net
Arrival-Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 16:17:51 -0400 (EDT)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; bloodshedder@doomworld.com
Original-Recipient: rfc822;idgmaint@abydos.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.7.1
Remote-MTA: dns; mail.doomworld.com
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 <bloodshedder@doomworld.com>: Recipient
    address rejected: Message rejected due to: SPF fail - not authorized.
    Please see
    http://www.openspf.net/Why?s=mfrom;id=zylinderkatze@gmx.net;ip=96.241.119.115;r=bloodshedder@doomworld.com

 

 

Can someone let me know if I could be doing something differently to prevent this from happening?

 

Did the mail not arrive anywhere at all- or is this just one potential recipient who didn't receive it?

 

Thanks so much.

[Xymph]

13 hours ago, Zylinderkatze said:

Can someone let me know if I could be doing something differently to prevent this from happening?

  

Did the mail not arrive anywhere at all- or is this just one potential recipient who didn't receive it? 

The Green Herring should have gotten it, but he may less active as maintainer lately (not sure).

The openspf.net link doesn't connect for me so I can't see further info about what they think might be the problem.

However, I don't have any issue mailing Bloodshedder directly from gamers.org/abydos.com. So it may be related to gmx.net -- try sending the reply via another mail host, or contact Bloodshedder via private message here.

Edited April 18, 2021 by Xymph

[Zylinderkatze]

11 hours ago, Xymph said:

The openspf.net link doesn't connect for me

Same for me.. at least that's one bug that not only I have xD

 

11 hours ago, Xymph said:

try sending the reply via another mail host

I would- but it seems that my files made it online after all! Rejoyce :D (https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/s-u/ure2020)

So either the mail did get through despite the error status- or the files' legitimacy and validity were confirmed despite my undelivered email.

Either way.. I'm happy (what a weird feeling). 

 

Thanks for all the help!

[Diabolución]

The mirror provided by @Bloodshedder got paralysed / frozen (no longer updated) for some reason.

[URROVA]

This is nice for persons without a good internet connection (like me) because sometimes i want to upload some files and the connection disconnects all the time, or even sometimes i cant CONNECT to the ftp server. So this is a cool tool :)

[Xymph]

On 4/19/2021 at 11:34 AM, Diabolución said:

The mirror provided by @Bloodshedder got paralysed / frozen (no longer updated) for some reason.

It was using passive ftp. Not sure how/when he fixed it, but it's back in sync.

Edited April 30, 2021 by Xymph

[Havoc Crow]

Uh... so apparently, my file just got rejected because of "no response to verification email after 7 days". But I did send a reply on May 1, I totally did! I sent off a reply to idgmaint@abydos.com.

I checked my mailbox again, and it turns out, a few hours after my reply, I had gotten the following reply back:

Quote

This is the mail system at host va1.abydos.com.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message.

The mail system

<bloodshedder@doomworld.com> (expanded from <idgmaint@abydos.com>): host mail.doomworld.com[69.164.207.121] said: 550 5.7.1 <bloodshedder@doomworld.com>: Recipient address rejected: Message rejected due to: SPF fail - not authorized. Please see http://www.openspf.net/Why?s=mfrom;id=korodzik@poczta.onet.pl;ip=96.241.119.115;r=bloodshedder@doomworld.com (in reply to RCPT TO command)

What gives!

EDIT: I've just noticed Zylinderkatze above seemed to have the same problem... But his files did get through in the end, and mine didn't.

Edited May 8, 2021 by JudgeDeadd

[Xymph]

13 hours ago, JudgeDeadd said:

Uh... so apparently, my file just got rejected because of "no response to verification email after 7 days". But I did send a reply on May 1, I totally did! I sent off a reply to idgmaint@abydos.com.

I checked my mailbox again, and it turns out, a few hours after my reply, I had gotten the following reply back:

What gives!

EDIT: I've just noticed Zylinderkatze above seemed to have the same problem... But his files did get through in the end, and mine didn't.

See my follow-up there.

[Bloodshedder]

17 hours ago, JudgeDeadd said:

Uh... so apparently, my file just got rejected because of "no response to verification email after 7 days". But I did send a reply on May 1, I totally did! I sent off a reply to idgmaint@abydos.com.

I checked my mailbox again, and it turns out, a few hours after my reply, I had gotten the following reply back:

What gives!

EDIT: I've just noticed Zylinderkatze above seemed to have the same problem... But his files did get through in the end, and mine didn't.

 

Please try again, I have modified the SPF settings on the Doomworld mail server. I would like to see if it works now.

If you get another rejection mail, please send the contents again.

[Xymph]

@Bloodshedder passed word that it's indeed fixed.

Edited May 9, 2021 by Xymph

[Havoc Crow]

It has worked now, my files are in. Thanks @Bloodshedder

[Redneckerz]

Alright, i decided to an upload through the form. Collected all files to a .zip using the native Windows copy to compressed archive feature, which generates a .zip file.

 

I upload this file through the form, but the site complains the following:
 

Quote

That is not a ZIP file

???.

 

The one thing i can think of is that my default program to open Zip files is WinRAR (or alternatively, 7zip). But i don't feel that should make a difference.

 

Where am i fucking up? Because this is the exact same method i use to upload to ftp and that has never seen a bounce. So what is going on?

[Xymph]

5 hours ago, Redneckerz said:

Alright, i decided to an upload through the form. Collected all files to a .zip using the native Windows copy to compressed archive feature, which generates a .zip file.

I upload this file through the form, but the site complains the following:
 

That is not a ZIP file

 

The one thing i can think of is that my default program to open Zip files is WinRAR (or alternatively, 7zip). But i don't feel that should make a difference.

Where am i fucking up? Because this is the exact same method i use to upload to ftp and that has never seen a bounce. So what is going on?

Extension alone doesn't say everything. Your file has a different mimetype that doesn't match regex "application/[\w-]*zip" -- this is checked by the CGI script. So, a (win)rar-ed or 7zip-ed file fails.

The ftp server doesn't do any file checks like that.

 

Perhaps you can configure the output to be real, normal (pk)zip.

[Redneckerz]

3 hours ago, Xymph said:

Extension alone doesn't say everything. Your file has a different mimetype that doesn't match regex "application/[\w-]*zip" -- this is checked by the CGI script. So, a (win)rar-ed or 7zip-ed file fails.

The ftp server doesn't do any file checks like that.

 

Perhaps you can configure the output to be real, normal (pk)zip.

But that's what i do. The zip is not created through Winrar, or 7zip. I just use the bog standard built in option to copy to a compressed map - which is a .zip file.

 

It is a normal zip. What happens if you do the same thing and attempt to upload it?

[Doomkid]

Have you tried using WinRAR or 7zip to make it instead of the built-in Windows method - Just to see if the uploader prefers them, for whatever reason?

[Xymph]

10 hours ago, Redneckerz said:

But that's what i do. The zip is not created through Winrar, or 7zip. I just use the bog standard built in option to copy to a compressed map - which is a .zip file.

 

It is a normal zip. What happens if you do the same thing and attempt to upload it?

I zip my uploads on Linux. Please make a (small, test) zip file available to me for (private, if you prefer) download, then I'll have a further look.

[Redneckerz]

7 hours ago, Doomkid said:

Have you tried using WinRAR or 7zip to make it instead of the built-in Windows method - Just to see if the uploader prefers them, for whatever reason?

Just tried it:

• WinRAR: Add to Archive - Choosing zip as output - Same result
• 7Zip: Add to Archive - Choosing zip as output - Same result

Now i am guessing the file name is faulty.

 

1 hour ago, Xymph said:

I zip my uploads on Linux. Please make a (small, test) zip file available to me for (private, if you prefer) download, then I'll have a further look.

Ill send you the direct zip of what i was going to upload to idgames, using the built-in method.

[Xymph]

35 minutes ago, Redneckerz said:

Ill send you the direct zip of what i was going to upload to idgames, using the built-in method.

I can upload it fine, it has the accepted mimetype application/zip. I turned on debug logging, please try it yourself.
 

[Redneckerz]

1 hour ago, Xymph said:

I can upload it fine, it has the accepted mimetype application/zip. I turned on debug logging, please try it yourself.
 

Still zilch.

 

To make sure i am not going insane, i turned off my adblocker and tried again.

 

And that had zero effect either. This is not a zipfile, utilizing built-in method.
 

Edited May 14, 2021 by Redneckerz

[Austinado]

This is not working anymore? I cant enter...it says connection expired..

 

Edit: It worked..forget about it.

Edited May 15, 2021 by Austinado
It worked

[Xymph]

On 5/14/2021 at 2:51 PM, Redneckerz said:

Still zilch.

To make sure i am not going insane, i turned off my adblocker and tried again.

And that had zero effect either. This is not a zipfile, utilizing built-in method.

After debugging via PMs, it turns out Red's FF version didn't assign any mimetype in the upload, hence the rejection by front-end JS and backend CGI script.

The solution for a successful upload was to use Chrome.

[Redneckerz]

48 minutes ago, Xymph said:

After debugging via PMs, it turns out Red's FF version didn't assign any mimetype in the upload, hence the rejection by front-end JS and backend CGI script.

The solution for a successful upload was to use Chrome.

Ill see if upgrading to latest FF will fix it there aswell.

 

Very odd, but reproducable and fixable. Thanks Xymph!

[Matthias]

On 3/15/2021 at 8:25 AM, Xymph said:

Yes, and the first section of the template has the "Update to" field to point out which existing file it should replace.

 

Just one more stupid question, that just popped in my mind... are you suppose to fill in the "Update to" the .zip file or the .wad file?

[Xymph]

14 minutes ago, LiquidDoom said:

Just one more stupid question, that just popped in my mind... are you suppose to fill in the "Update to" the .zip file or the .wad file?

The original upload is a .zip. A new upload is a .zip. Which upload extension would you expect it to replace? ;-)

Edited May 17, 2021 by Xymph

[Xymph]

On 4/15/2021 at 7:57 PM, Xymph said:

As long as you keep using passive mode, yes - until I find out why that broke, which I can't make any promises on. So as instructed above already, use active mode.

This fell through the cracks longer than intended (not unusual, I suppose); but anyway, passive ftp works again.

[Xaser]

Just dropping by to say that the upload interface worked great for me, and is a fuckzillion times easier to use than the old FTP process. Big belated thanks for putting this together!

[Benben]

Love it!

[Chipper35]

This is great!! Just uploaded my first WAD. I appreciate Filezilla....I do! But, geez: it's quirky!

[Redneckerz]

Through Jon i just got noted that boomlightgen was taken down in September because it apparently had multiple Plutonia copies.

 

I went in through a fine comb and it was in the debug folder containing several test.wads which apparently were Plutonia.

 

The debug folder i hold no responsiblity to. I have reuploaded the file without the Plutonia wad files.

 

FYI.

Edited December 22, 2021 by Redneckerz

[The Green Herring]

Speaking of commercial IWADs, WAD Rule #2 on the idgames archive has just been updated today not only to clarify what it means, but to also provide instructions for using SLADE to ensure that your WAD complies with the rule. There have been a number of cases where "unmodified resources" from the commercial games targeted by uploads were accidentally included due to inheriting them from certain texture packs, and this revision should go a long way to averting headaches for uploaders.

The revised rule reads as follows:

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2. Don't include unmodified resources (sprites, patches, sounds, music, etc.) from the commercial IWAD that your upload is designed to work with. This includes, but is not necessarily limited to, Doom/Doom 2/Final Doom, Heretic/Hexen, and Strife. Using SLADE (slade.mancubus.net) to check this is recommended. In SLADE, set up and select the IWAD as a "Base Resource", then follow the menus to perform this action: Archive->Maintenance->Remove Entries Duplicated from IWAD. Do this even if you think your file does not have unmodified IWAD resources, as they can be accidentally included from things like texture packs. WAD files embedded inside a PK3 must be opened and checked separately.
 

One exception is for extensions to IWAD animated flats in files created for the original (vanilla) engine; an example is restoring the unused fourth frames for Doom's liquid animations. Because of the way the engine reads the flat lumps from the WAD, any extension to an animated IWAD flat must include every frame.

If anyone is wondering, the special case example at the end is in specific reference to the lostres texture pack, which unfortunately had to include every frame of NUKAGE and BLOOD in order to restore their unused fourth frames due to how animated flats work in the Doom engine.

 

Have a good day, and happy uploading!