Dweller Dark Posted May 21, 2022 I was looking at something related to automaps here and realized that I don't use the automap in any Doom or Doom-related game much, if at all. And so I wondered how often anybody here uses it and searched it to make sure there wasn't a similar post, which there were none that I could find. So, out of curiosity, how often do you use the automap? 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
SMG_Man Posted May 21, 2022 I can get away with not using it in episodes 1-3 of Doom and Doom 2 since I know them like the back of my hand. For everything else (final doom, doom 64, custom maps, hell, even some of my own maps) I use it liberally. Gotta find as many secrets as I can, ya dig? 5 Quote Share this post Link to post
Anonymous Space Marine Posted May 21, 2022 Sometimes after clearing a map I found enjoyable, I might use automap to look over the layout, just to reminisce. The other exception is when I'm completely lost. In general, I don't use the automap too much either. But I think it's a good feature to have. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
Ludi Posted May 21, 2022 I use it whenever I find a keycard in a map that in't from the IWADs. 'nuff said. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
Dweller Dark Posted May 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Anonymous Space Marine said: But I think it's a good feature to have. I agree, it's always a good feature to have whether or not someone uses it. Map-like features always have a purpose in games that benefit from it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
PsychEyeball Posted May 21, 2022 I rarely ever bring the automap to check out the map itself, but I'll bring it out every now and then to check out the kill count. Especially after I'm done with a big fight, just to see how many enemies died and how much is left. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Shepardus Posted May 21, 2022 I open the automap all the time except if I'm already very familiar with the map. I can't live without an overlay-style automap (no background). 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
kwc Posted May 21, 2022 I peek at the automap so much that habitually pressing tab any time I feel the need to reorient myself is in my muscle memory, which can cause issues with other games. 17 Quote Share this post Link to post
pantheon Posted May 21, 2022 I like to use the automap and mark important pickups or other interesting places. I even recolored the AMMNUM digits used for the marks to cyan so they're easier to distinguish. Pretty useless with the default dark gray. It can come in handy but it's mostly force of habit at this point. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
The_SloVinator Posted May 21, 2022 Usually only when I'm lost in the map or if I suspect any secret clues existing on the automap, then I check it. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
ImproversGaming Posted May 21, 2022 Interesting, I have often wondered how much they are used. I use the automap rarely. It surprises me how little. The most common use for me is actually looking at the map name or secret hunting once I have all kills. Having said this I am not at the point where I am playing large sprawling maps yet. As I cannot see areas on the map until I have already been there it does not help much for small and straightforward maps. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
tsocheff Posted May 21, 2022 never bc I DOWNT NEE DAT unless im trying to find a facking secret thats in some corner that you would never see or something like that 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted May 21, 2022 I usually start a map by doing a 360° turn a the start position and then looking at the automap if the starting area isn't a tiny closed room. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
out_of_service Posted May 21, 2022 I always make good use of the automap! It's an incredibly useful tool that should be utilized. I even use M to mark positions of supplies/power-ups that I might not need at the moment and can come back to later if need be. 8 Quote Share this post Link to post
Hitboi Posted May 21, 2022 (edited) I usually only use it when I try to find a secret and get lost in the map, and/or the map has a beautiful layout. 4 minutes ago, Piper Maru said: I even use M to mark positions of supplies/power-ups that I might not need at the moment and can come back to later if need be. Finally, I found a person that uses the mark position feature! Edited May 21, 2022 by Hitboi 6 Quote Share this post Link to post
MFG38 Posted May 21, 2022 Generally how I use the automap is to check the locations of locked doors and/or switches that require keys. One of my favorite things about GZDoom is how it shows those on the automap with the respective color codes. I wish more source ports had that feature. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Frost-Core Posted May 21, 2022 (edited) I really just use it only when i have the computer area map or when playing one of doom's worst levels : e2m9 Edited May 21, 2022 by Frost-Core 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
thiccyosh Posted May 21, 2022 When I have to, that is usually when I go secret hunting as I'm far too smoothbrain to count 2 and 2 together. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
antares031 Posted May 21, 2022 Quite frequently. It's useful to figure out the route to the next locked door, check out the blockmap with grid, and mark the powerup that I don't need right now. Automap is also useful for me as a level designer, by marking closed doors and some of switches with ceiling-height-difference linedefs, and erasing other unnecessary ceiling linedefs. I don't know why, but cleaning the automap is also quite satisfying. 10 Quote Share this post Link to post
Biodegradable Posted May 21, 2022 I check it all the time. Definitely very useful for when I'm feeling lost or trying to sniff out secrets. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
sandwedge Posted May 21, 2022 I used to open it way more, then I got a kill/secret counter on the hud and open it half as much. I also don't need to wait for messages to scroll off the screen to read that info. it's life changing. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
BGreener Posted May 21, 2022 If I’m not sure where to go, I’ll open the map, see an unexplored portion, and off I go. On big maps I’ll use the mark feature for health and ammo pick ups I didn’t need at the time, cool to see others here doing the same. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Doomy__Doom Posted May 21, 2022 Prior to extended HUD - at least once per map, since that was the way to check stats without exiting, and more or less the only way to confirm all kills on a map with Viles. Generally, I check it whenever I feel the need to orient myself. I prefer textured automap to speed up recalling areas, especially on massive maps which are hard to memorize on the go. If I'm standing by the exit and I'm missing stuff, I'm very likely going to use automap to look for places to go. If the map is sufficiently large or hard to havigate, I'm also likely to idclip through the level towards points of interest with the map open - "let's just pretend there was a backtracking teleporter". I'm more into combat than secret-hunting, so I show secret sectors in purple on the map (plus the different color for visited secrets) and use map for hints. Having a special color for "exit level" linedefs also helps not having to save/rewind accidental walkover exits. Occasionally I look at the map around obvious ambushes for would-be closets that map maker may have left as two-sided linedefs on the map. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
bofu Posted May 21, 2022 I used to overrely on the automap in unfamiliar maps, using it every time I was about to enter a new area to get a feel for it. That was a very unexciting way to play, so now, I only use it in larger maps where I am not sure about where to go next or when I'm secret hunting. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Nevander Posted May 21, 2022 (edited) I hardly ever use it honestly, unless I get super lost or hunting secrets. I have good visual memory of locations in maps, so I don't rely on it to "find where that door was" type of thing. Edited May 21, 2022 by Nevander 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
MrGigglefingers Posted May 21, 2022 I use it for: Secret hunting. Cancerous maps where all the rooms look the same. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Wyrmwood Posted May 21, 2022 It's strange I use it all the time playing Doom but somehow never really miss it playing Quake. If level designs well done its mostly for secret finding though. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
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