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6 hours ago, anon said:

The mario world goomba is actually a galoomba. Though I do see how you could mistake that without being in the cult of nintendo switch users.
https://www.mariowiki.com/Galoomba
 

I didn't make a mistake. That is a retcon from Super Mario 3D World. Up until that point, including the conceptualization of the design, it was not called a "goloomba". In fact, that information is even in the wiki you linked to me. 
 

Ugh, this is getting really sidetracked by banal bullshit. 

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Even though this thread is about goombas now I'm still gonna go off topic and say I have never quite loved the designs in any of the newer Doom games.  I suppose some of them are cool in their own right, but I was never fond of the design style, so popular in games of the last decade or so, where the monsters have to be all bristling with spikes and plates and other shit.  Somehow enemies like the mancubus and arachnotron feel more raw and demonic when their mechanical bits are just big unrefined hunks of steel and cable, without any pointy heavy-metal design flourishes on them.  

 

In a weird way I actually like some of the Doom 3 designs better; they're an even bigger departure from the original designs, but in that way they become their own thing, rather than just "Doom but modernized".  It's more of a horror aesthetic that works well for the game it's for.  As a one-off, I don't mind it.

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On 7/18/2022 at 7:13 PM, resle said:

their respective IP owners being well aware of the power of recognizability

Except you can still easily recognize the redesigns and where they came from, so recognizability isn't really a concern here. In most cases, anyway (maybe not so for the hell knight, but frankly I think it's for the better that they didn't stick with recoloring barons in every game). It's perfectly valid to not like the new style, but the design of the monsters and what makes them what they are isn't just a particular art style or what projectile they fire.

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14 hours ago, resle said:

So, Goombas in Mario 64 could have been modeled to look like zucchini rather than mushrooms, and that would make sense to you.

 Got it.

 

1 hour ago, resle said:

A simple "whoops I was wrong" would have sufficed,

but ok let's go metaphysical:

 

If two things look different,

and they have different names,

then, my friend -

they indeed are different really really different things,

I mean really different,

not the same.

 

Hope this helps,

r.

 

make your argument style way less annoying and insufferable if you want to have threads

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