LZDoom and GZDoom crash on my laptop (SOLVED)

[Not into omelettes.]

Hello

 

My laptop died a while back and I got out my old one (Like really old)

 

I got lzdoom so i can get back to dooming and i find this error

any idea on how to solve it?

 

The laptop's os is a 32 bit windows 7 (yes ik very old but its all i got lmao) ultimate

 

(SOLVED)

Edited September 23, 2022 by Not into omelettes.
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[Redneckerz]

• Is the Doom IWAD in the same dir?
• Which version of LZ are you running?
• What are your PC specs?

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2 hours ago, Redneckerz said:

• Is the Doom IWAD in the same dir?
• Which version of LZ are you running?
• What are your PC specs?

1.) Yes

2.) Latest (3.88b) (Not a dev build)

3.) Intel Core Duo CPU T2500 2.00GHZ, 2GB RAM, and an AMD Mobility Radeon X1400

Edited September 16, 2022 by Not into omelettes.
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[Dark Pulse]

11 minutes ago, Not into omelettes. said:

1.) Yes

2.) Latest (3.88b) (Not a dev build)

3.) Intel Core Duo CPU T2500 2.00GHZ, 2GB RAM, and an AMD Mobility Radeon X1400

That explains GZDoom at least. That GPU is way too ancient. It needs to support OpenGL 3.3 or Vulkan; as a 16 year-old(!) GPU, it doesn't even support DX10. It was made for DX9.0c.

 

As for LZDoom, that needs OpenGL 2.1. According to the specs, though, your GPU DOES support that.

 

Also, you need a 32-bit build of LZDoom. 64-bit won't work for obvious reasons.

 

https://github.com/drfrag666/gzdoom/releases/

 

You'll want the x86 one.

Edited September 16, 2022 by Dark Pulse

[Redneckerz]

49 minutes ago, Dark Pulse said:

That explains GZDoom at least. That GPU is way too ancient. It needs to support OpenGL 3.3 or Vulkan; as a 16 year-old(!) GPU, it doesn't even support DX10. It was made for DX9.0c.

 

As for LZDoom, that needs OpenGL 2.1. According to the specs, though, your GPU DOES support that.

The X1400 is an R500 architecture chip.

This supports OpenGL 2.0. Its the successor to the Radeon 97xx/98xx which debuted OpenGL 2.0.

 

R500 does support DX9.0c and Shader Model 3.0 though.

 

Honestly i would look at ZDoom32. That one has a OpenGL 2.0 based renderer taken from an older GZDoom build (1.9.1).

 

Should run pretty nicely on there, and as its based on latest ZDoom 2.8.1.

 

Alternatively, there is ZZDoom, which has ZScript support (And thus can run but removes the OpenGL renderer. Pure software.

[Dark Pulse]

9 minutes ago, Redneckerz said:

The X1400 is an R500 architecture chip.

This supports OpenGL 2.0. Its the successor to the Radeon 97xx/98xx which debuted OpenGL 2.0.

 

R500 does support DX9.0c and Shader Model 3.0 though.

 

Honestly i would look at ZDoom32. That one has a OpenGL 2.0 based renderer taken from an older GZDoom build (1.9.1).

 

Should run pretty nicely on there, and as its based on latest ZDoom 2.8.1.

 

Alternatively, there is ZZDoom, which has ZScript support (And thus can run but removes the OpenGL renderer. Pure software.

Some sites seem to report 2.0, others 2.1.

 

If it's 2.0, then yeah, it's too old even for LZDoom, and it's off to ZDoom32/ZZDoom, as you said.

[Redneckerz]

1 minute ago, Dark Pulse said:

Some sites seem to report 2.0, others 2.1.

 

If it's 2.0, then yeah, it's too old even for LZDoom, and it's off to ZDoom32/ZZDoom, as you said.

I am going by this: http://developer.amd.com/wordpress/media/2013/10/R5xx_Acceleration_v1.5.pdf

 

Which is about as official as i can get it to be.

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1 hour ago, Dark Pulse said:

 

Also, you need a 32-bit build of LZDoom. 64-bit won't work for obvious reasons.

I DID use a 32 bit version.

Will try ZDoom32 rn though

 

EDIT: hahaaa it won"'t run my laptop is truly bottom of the barrel. Ty yall for helping. Hopefully i get a new laptop/pc soon

Edited September 16, 2022 by Not into omelettes.
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[Redneckerz]

6 minutes ago, Not into omelettes. said:

I DID use a 32 bit version.

Will try ZDoom32 rn though

 

EDIT: hahaaa it won"'t run my laptop is truly bottom of the barrel. Ty yall for helping. Hopefully i get a new laptop/pc soon

Update the drivers. I refuse to believe ZDoom32 cant run there since it runs on worse. What error does it throw up?

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30 minutes ago, Redneckerz said:

Update the drivers. I refuse to believe ZDoom32 cant run there since it runs on worse. What error does it throw up?

The same error with lzdoom (0xc000005)

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35 minutes ago, Redneckerz said:

Update the drivers

What drivers do i update?

[Redneckerz]

19 minutes ago, Not into omelettes. said:

What drivers do i update?

Video card drivers. - https://drivers.amd.com/relnotes/catalyst_72_release_notes.html

 

And perhaps update the system in general. That error is primarily due to missing/outdated drivers.

[Dark Pulse]

Yeah. Was going to say, get the latest drivers for it if it's still throwing up an error.

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What drivers do yall think is causing the error?

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I already updated one of the drivers i thought was the cause but it didn't fix it though

[Redneckerz]

5 hours ago, Not into omelettes. said:

What drivers do yall think is causing the error?

I told you one possible cause - video card drivers. 

Word of advice - we can't look inside your PC or your brain, so if we have to do assumptions (Which we do) any bit of info (Like which driver, which error, which OS, etc..) helps making a better assumption/advice.

 

It also helps patching up Windows and downloading the latest .net frameworks.

 

5 hours ago, Not into omelettes. said:

I already updated one of the drivers i thought was the cause but it didn't fix it though

It would help if you said which one you updated.

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On 9/19/2022 at 8:00 PM, Redneckerz said:

It would help if you said which one you updated.

The IDE/ATAPI Storage Controller

 

Sorry for late reply

[Herr Dethnout]

Have you considered using another sourceport? ZDoom has a lot of forks

Alternatively, you can use a non-ZDoom sourceport like Doom Retro or MBF21 supported ports, yes you will not get the fancy features from GZ/LZDoom but for playing doom maps is more than enough.

Edited September 23, 2022 by Herr Dethnout

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57 minutes ago, Herr Dethnout said:

Have you considered using another sourceport? ZDoom has a lot of forks

Alternatively, you can use a non-ZDoom sourceport like Doom Retro or MBF21 supported ports, yes you will not get the fancy features from GZ/LZDoom but for playing doom maps is more than enough.

I'll try these out thanks

[Redneckerz]

1 hour ago, Not into omelettes. said:

The IDE/ATAPI Storage Controller

 

Sorry for late reply

Has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Gl out there.

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7 hours ago, Not into omelettes. said:

I'll try these out thanks

The ZDoom fork that only worked was zdoom LE

 

The rest? Nope.

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Alright so i have a theory i wanna try out

 

If any of you guys could send me your .ini files for either LZDoom or GZDoom then please do I really just wanna play doom again lmao

 

Maybe the problem is rooted in the fact that the game can't make an .ini due to the crashes.

[Redneckerz]

10 minutes ago, Not into omelettes. said:

The ZDoom fork that only worked was zdoom LE

 

The rest? Nope.

LE heavily depends on which version. In the OpenGL version, it has OpenGL 1.2. See the wiki as to why this is the case.

 

Again, update your video drivers. We can't suggest anything until atleast this variable has been met. Your GPU should technically be able to use ZDoom32, so anything that prohibits that:

• First update Video drivers
• Then Windows updates

7 minutes ago, Not into omelettes. said:

If any of you guys could send me your .ini files for either LZDoom or GZDoom then please do I really just wanna play doom again lmao

 

Maybe the problem is rooted in the fact that the game can't make an .ini due to the crashes.

Maybe the directory LZDoom/GZDoom is in is read-only?

@Kappes Buur maybe you can chime in?

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Okay guys I solved the problem!

All i did was install the security update for Windows 7 and re-installed lzdoom though it gave me a new error but I solved it by replacing the exe with the same one from the archive LZDoom came in and bam it works!

Edited September 24, 2022 by Not into omelettes.

[Redneckerz]

On 9/23/2022 at 6:48 PM, Not into omelettes. said:

Okay guys I solved the problem!

All i did was install the security update for Windows 7 and re-installed lzdoom though it gave me a new error but I solved it by replacing the exe with the same one from the archive LZDoom came in and bam it works!

So basically what was suggested did the trick.

 

Enjoy your Dooming.