[NO DEADLINE, AND SLOTS ALL TAKEN] Finer Doom: The Nominal Touches (TNT CP)

[Meyland12]

3 hours ago, Heretic926 said:

Probably my opinion is going to be a little harsh, but I also want to be honest here: this is a bad map. It's basically overscaled red hellish "cave" with marble structures, if bunch of square rooms connected with rectangular hallways can be called a cave. Every fight is ridiculously unbalanced in a bad way, especially the first one. Secrets are both essentially mandatory to beat the map and extremely obscure. To put it simply - it looks ugly and plays bad, it actually feels like an outtake from Hell Revealed. It doesn't have any traits of a good map, let alone a map that would fit into a TNT project.

 

I can't really give any advice on what you can do to make this map better because I don't have nearly as much mapping experience to qualify me to teach how to make a good map, but it's clear that this level is not good enough to be accepted into this project. Don't take my criticism as an insult though, I just want this project to have a decent level of quality.

 

What about my map.

Edited November 16, 2023 by Meyland12
change of plan

[Heretic926]

28 minutes ago, Meyland12 said:

 

Ok so i will make new map from start which will foucs more on littie detalis and there were less unbalanced hard fights. I have a lot of time if not unlimited time to make map since this project has no deadline. 😌

No need to be so fast, @Codename_Delta is a project lead and it's up to him what maps to accept. You better wait for his opinion about your map.

[Meyland12]

Oh ok get it. Don't worry i didn't even manage to delete old version of my map in hardrive or make new version yet. I will change my last post. I will pm project lead insteed. 😌

[Cacodemon187]

Heads up bump--I'll be dropping out of the project. Doesn't look like it's going anywhere and I'd like to release my unfinished maps soon :/

[Walter confetti]

Yeah, i was thinking to do the same since it's been quite a long time i didn't hear anything new about this project... Too bad because It had a lot of potential!

[Heretic926]

2 hours ago, Walter confetti said:

Yeah, i was thinking to do the same since it's been quite a long time i didn't hear anything new about this project... Too bad because It had a lot of potential!

I've done, like, three maps (not counting the secret one that is still in development) for this project and I'm definitely not happy that project lead seemingly forgot about the project since he hasn't appeared on forums from last year's November. I'll try to contact him and ask about the project.

[Treehouseminis]

5 hours ago, Heretic926 said:

I've done, like, three maps (not counting the secret one that is still in development) for this project and I'm definitely not happy that project lead seemingly forgot about the project since he hasn't appeared on forums from last year's November. I'll try to contact him and ask about the project.

Yeah I made 2 maps but looking back only really liked 1 of em.  I might just make a post for fun.  

[knifeworld]

On 2/18/2024 at 1:02 AM, Cacodemon187 said:

Heads up bump--I'll be dropping out of the project. Doesn't look like it's going anywhere and I'd like to release my unfinished maps soon :/

Same here, to be honest...
I've been thinking of removing my map for a while now, but figured the lead might eventually come back so doing that would slow the project down even more.
But at this point it's been so long I don't care.
 

On 2/18/2024 at 12:05 PM, Heretic926 said:

I've done, like, three maps (not counting the secret one that is still in development) for this project and I'm definitely not happy that project lead seemingly forgot about the project since he hasn't appeared on forums from last year's November. I'll try to contact him and ask about the project.

This is just my personal take, but I wouldn't bother contacting them, it's been far too long now.

[Meyland12]

Why i always have special kind of "luck" where i join commuity projects that either get cancalled or project leads are inactive so long? 🤔

 

Well Heretic926 said my map (map29) is bad. I was thinking about making "updated" version of Map29 without all the isscues that was mentioned by Heretic926 but on other hand i don't want spend another tons of hours to fix or even make map29 from scratch again only to find out project is either cancalled or abandoned.

 

Well for now i will keep bad (orginal) version of map29 on my harddrive and wait for any respond by project lead. However i really have dobuts about this project since project lead is inactive since November of last year. 🤷‍♂️

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Li'l devil]

Late post, but I've talked to Delta, they left DW for good out of some dislike to this community, and are most certainly never coming back. So yeah, you've all been cheated!

[DoctorNuriel]

Aw man, that's a shame. I don't blame them for leaving if they really don't like the community, but it would've been nice to see some closure to this project :( with all the great maps folks have been cooking up.

[Li'l devil]

From what I learned they were afraid to tell at first, and after a while realized it's too late to tell that.

Edited May 8 by Li'l devil

[JustAthel]

I really wouldn't want to see this project go down the drain, it was a fun project to keep tabs on! Since my free time is starting to open up a bit more now, I'd like to volunteer compiling what we have and maybe even helping with getting the other maps in to get a full release? I wouldn't want to just fully take the project from Delta, but if he's cool with it, I wouldn't mind filling the role. @Li'l devil, do you think that'd be alright with them?

[LadyMistDragon]

I'm on the same server and I was just about to suggest that a Doom 2 in Song Only situation might be the best course of action. Sounds like someone's already stepping up though!

[Li'l devil]

 

So basically yes. As to which one of you will be the new leader, decide collectively, I guess.

Edited May 9 by Li'l devil

[JustAthel]

Thank you! If there's no disagreements, I could get a thread post up a little later this evening and make sure everything is up-to-date up to this moment. I'll wait a little bit for deliberation before officially doing anything, just to gather thoughts / opinions

[Heretic926]

I actually had a conversation with @knifeworld about the state of this project couple of months ago. He agreed to help with playtesting and ensuring future maps are more up to the modern TNT-inspired standard. I put a lot of effort in my three submissions for this project (with fourth in WIP state), considering they were my first Doom maps. Since then I started to tinker with textures and trying to compose MIDIs, I think it would be helpful. I am pretty much ready to lead/co-lead the development, if necessary.

[xScavengerWolfx]

If need be i could help with the play testing and iron out the bugs in maps. I'm not a huge TNT Evilution fan myself but since i'm kinda having a stand still with my personal project i can help out if y'all need it.

 

Other wise i got nothing else better to do.

[JustAthel]

I have sent a DM over to Heretic a little earlier, would love to get as many hands as possible to help!

[xScavengerWolfx]

So i was looking at the maps and the Authors and i see Map31 is kinda up in the air. Dose anyone know about that or is it a first come first serve thing? 

[JustAthel]

It seems like Heretic was considering making a map for it at one point, but not sure if they still intend on it sometime down the line

[xScavengerWolfx]

Ah ok, I was wondering because it seems like a lot of community projects (C.P.) have been cropping up and dying out. But like i said i don't mind play testing maps if need be.

[JustAthel]

I hope this doesn't come off as being too hasty on my part, but I have made a new thread for this project in the hopes that we can finally see it through to completion! I'm not sure exactly who's still in or out of the project, so please do take a look to confirm.