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[spineapple tea]

You've just reminded me to continue working on E2M7. Didn't have anything better to do this weekend.

[princetontiger]

Great to see some Ultimate Doom projects!

[Noiser]

Ok, I think I can grab e3m5 back. Sorry for the lack of update.

[JustAthel]

If E4M4's free, could I take a crack at it? :D

[Cammy]

I'd love to take on E3M6! Always loved that map, and vanilla mapping is fun. :)

[Aku]

e2m4 could interest me, how much time would i have to make it?

[purist]

Good luck with this, looks like a good project. Would be right up my alley if I had time to map.

[DFF]

The recent thread activity thankfully reminded me to send over edits for my map. removed a few graphical issues and some unintended fight interactions.
Link: E1M3

also if slots still don't fill up i could see about taking another map.

[Dusty_Rhodes]

I'll take E2M1, if it's available. I've done a fair bit of vanilla mapping, so I should be able to make something serviceable to the slot. 

 

Funnily enough, I signed up for this project way back when but I was overwhelmed and under experienced to even make something. I'll be glad to really get something out this time. 

Edited January 28, 2023 by Dusty_Rhodes

[xdude_gamer]

If custom music is allowed, I'll send a few 90s' sounding MIDIs down to you if you want. Looking forward to this!

[NeedHealth]

I'll do E4M8.

[Walter confetti]

1 hour ago, Dusty_Rhodes said:

I'll take E2M1, if it's available. I've done a fair bit of vanilla mapping, so I should be able to make something serviceable to the slot. 

 

Funnily enough, I signed up for this project way back when but I was overwhelmed and under experienced to even make something. I'll be glad to really get something out this time. 

Claimed by @LGmaire already

[Raspoza]

Is there any minimum experience requirement or something? I've made some short maps before and I kind of want to make a map for this project since I love Ultimate Doom, but I never really made any actual map for any project before other than a map I'm currently working on.

[magicsofa]

Wow that filled up fast! Added everyone to the list. Except for @LGmaire and @Dusty_Rhodes... you both asked for E2M1. LG was first, and the only other open slot is E4M6. What to do? For the rest of the updates, thanks for chiming in!

 

On 1/27/2023 at 6:18 PM, Michael Jensen said:

I'd like to do E2M5. Since it isn't mentioned anywhere, I asumme there will be no custom music? 

 

I wasn't exactly planning on it since it is technically a re-envisioning of the UD maps... but we're being very loose with the interpretation so I'm not against the idea of custom midis. @xdude_gamer already sent a few so we'll see. I guess it mainly depends on each mapper's interpretation, some will take the original midi into account so if that's happening I wouldn't want to ruin it by changing it up.

 

On 1/27/2023 at 8:01 PM, Noiser said:

Ok, I think I can grab e3m5 back. Sorry for the lack of update.

 

No problem!

 

11 hours ago, Aku said:

e2m4 could interest me, how much time would i have to make it?

 

Ironically the original deadline was Dec 10, 2023. It seemed bizarre at the time (May of 2021) but I guess it was a premonition? Ideally you would have a first draft of your map within a month or two.

 

3 hours ago, Raspoza said:

Is there any minimum experience requirement or something? I've made some short maps before and I kind of want to make a map for this project since I love Ultimate Doom, but I never really made any actual map for any project before other than a map I'm currently working on.

 

Not really, but the maps should at least be "IWAD-level quality". However, unfortunately all the slots might be taken! If you want I can make a note that you're interested and if someone drops out then you can have first dibs.

[OverflowingMocha]

7 minutes ago, magicsofa said:

Wow that filled up fast! Added everyone to the list. Except for @LGmaire and @Dusty_Rhodes... you both asked for E2M1. LG was first, and the only other open slot is E4M6. What to do? For the rest of the updates, thanks for chiming in!

 

Well, I thought I'd get the E2M1 slot since I asked first. But if you really want to I could have E4M6. Not sure if I want it though since Raspoza seems to be interested and I already have a slot for E4, might just give it to them if they wish for it and I can let Dusty have E2M1.

 

9 minutes ago, magicsofa said:

I wasn't exactly planning on it since it is technically a re-envisioning of the UD maps... but we're being very loose with the interpretation so I'm not against the idea of custom midis. @xdude_gamer already sent a few so we'll see. I guess it mainly depends on each mapper's interpretation, some will take the original midi into account so if that's happening I wouldn't want to ruin it by changing it up.

 

Well, for my map I had a separate .wad file containing a custom midi for it but I didn't put it along with the map because I wasn't sure if custom midis were allowed.

If it's alright to have them maybe I could drop a new update to the map that maybe makes a change or two along with adding that midi I used, or just make an update that adds the midi and make no changes besides that. Then again if you don't want me to have a custom midi I'm fine with that, E4M3's midi I feel is good enough and long enough for my interpretation of it.

[Aku]

44 minutes ago, magicsofa said:

 

Ironically the original deadline was Dec 10, 2023. It seemed bizarre at the time (May of 2021) but I guess it was a premonition? Ideally you would have a first draft of your map within a month or two.

 

ok i should have something made within that time, im in.

[magicsofa]

12 minutes ago, LGmaire said:

 

Well, I thought I'd get the E2M1 slot since I asked first. But if you really want to I could have E4M6. Not sure if I want it though since Raspoza seems to be interested and I already have a slot for E4, might just give it to them if they wish for it and I can let Dusty have E2M1.

 

That's ok, you take E2M1, @Dusty_Rhodes if you want E4M6 it's yours, otherwise it will go to @Raspoza

 

12 minutes ago, LGmaire said:

Well, for my map I had a separate .wad file containing a custom midi for it but I didn't put it along with the map because I wasn't sure if custom midis were allowed.

If it's alright to have them maybe I could drop a new update to the map that maybe makes a change or two along with adding that midi I used, or just make an update that adds the midi and make no changes besides that. Then again if you don't want me to have a custom midi I'm fine with that, E4M3's midi I feel is good enough and long enough for my interpretation of it.

Just remembered.... I'm pretty sure replacing music in E4 can only be done by changing the earlier slot that it "steals" from. So E4M3 and E3M3 have to be the same track. Still have to verify this though...

[OverflowingMocha]

1 minute ago, magicsofa said:

 

That's ok, you take E2M1, @Dusty_Rhodes if you want E4M6 it's yours, otherwise it will go to @Raspoza

 

 

Hmmm, Okay I will take the E4M6 slot but if I decide to give it up can they have dibs on it?

 

1 minute ago, magicsofa said:

Just remembered.... I'm pretty sure replacing music in E4 can only be done by changing the earlier slot that it "steals" from. So E4M3 and E3M3 have to be the same track. Still have to verify this though...

 

Oh fuck, yeah I forgot about that... No custom midis for me then.

[Aku]

i started on this level tonight.
been reimaging a lot of elements from e2m4 in working on it while giving those ideas and concepts a new unique spin.
goin to try and feature my reinterpretations of most of the iconic moments in the level, like in this picture a remake of the opening staircase & elevator leading to the pillars have been exaggeratted, and aspects like interacting with the skull for the pillars to raise is still going to be a thing,  ext ext , 


 

[Dusty_Rhodes]

H̶e̶y̶ M̶a̶g̶i̶c̶S̶o̶f̶a̶, I̶'l̶l̶ g̶l̶a̶d̶l̶y̶ t̶a̶k̶e̶ E̶4̶M̶6̶. S̶o̶m̶e̶h̶o̶w̶ e̶v̶e̶r̶y̶ v̶a̶n̶i̶l̶l̶a̶ l̶e̶v̶e̶l̶ I̶'v̶e̶ e̶v̶e̶r̶ p̶u̶t̶ o̶u̶t̶ i̶s̶ i̶n̶s̶p̶i̶r̶e̶d̶ b̶y̶ t̶h̶i̶s̶ o̶n̶e̶ h̶e̶h̶, s̶o̶ i̶t̶'l̶l̶ b̶e̶ a̶ g̶o̶o̶d̶ r̶e̶t̶u̶r̶n̶ t̶o̶ t̶h̶e̶ s̶t̶o̶m̶p̶i̶n̶g̶ g̶r̶o̶u̶n̶d̶. I̶'l̶l̶ t̶r̶y̶ a̶n̶d̶ g̶e̶t̶ s̶o̶m̶e̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ s̶t̶a̶r̶t̶e̶d̶ t̶o̶n̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ 

 

14 hours ago, LGmaire said:

Hmmm, Okay I will take the E4M6 slot but if I decide to give it up can they have dibs on it?

Damnnit lol. I was just about to post my response. It's yours though LGmaire, no worries.

 

 

Also yes, stupidly, Episode 4 reuses previous music lumps. That can be changed with UMAPINFO but that's the only way that I know of. I guess it isn't really stupid, because it saved 9 midis' worth of space on the disk / hard drive. Still, kind of frustrating if you're refusing modern source port lumps. 

[OverflowingMocha]

24 minutes ago, Dusty_Rhodes said:

H̶e̶y̶ M̶a̶g̶i̶c̶S̶o̶f̶a̶, I̶'l̶l̶ g̶l̶a̶d̶l̶y̶ t̶a̶k̶e̶ E̶4̶M̶6̶. S̶o̶m̶e̶h̶o̶w̶ e̶v̶e̶r̶y̶ v̶a̶n̶i̶l̶l̶a̶ l̶e̶v̶e̶l̶ I̶'v̶e̶ e̶v̶e̶r̶ p̶u̶t̶ o̶u̶t̶ i̶s̶ i̶n̶s̶p̶i̶r̶e̶d̶ b̶y̶ t̶h̶i̶s̶ o̶n̶e̶ h̶e̶h̶, s̶o̶ i̶t̶'l̶l̶ b̶e̶ a̶ g̶o̶o̶d̶ r̶e̶t̶u̶r̶n̶ t̶o̶ t̶h̶e̶ s̶t̶o̶m̶p̶i̶n̶g̶ g̶r̶o̶u̶n̶d̶. I̶'l̶l̶ t̶r̶y̶ a̶n̶d̶ g̶e̶t̶ s̶o̶m̶e̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ s̶t̶a̶r̶t̶e̶d̶ t̶o̶n̶i̶g̶h̶t̶ 

 

Damnnit lol. I was just about to post my response. It's yours though LGmaire, no worries.

 

Oh well, if you really wanted E4M6 instead then I can let you have it for E2M1 but that's fine, It'll take me a bit to finish it though...

And yea, sad that it reuses E3M3's midi so no other midis for me there, unless whoever has the E3M3 slot really wants to use the same midi I did...

 

^{Damn it man, I only wanted the small map and now I have to do one of the bigger ones, lmao}

[Dusty_Rhodes]

57 minutes ago, LGmaire said:

 

Oh well, if you really wanted E4M6 instead then I can let you have it for E2M1 but that's fine, It'll take me a bit to finish it though...

And yea, sad that it reuses E3M3's midi so no other midis for me there, unless whoever has the E3M3 slot really wants to use the same midi I did...

 

^{Damn it man, I only wanted the small map and now I have to do one of the bigger ones, lmao}

Since you're being so gracious (seriously no pressure, take whatever you want if I can't contribute to this project it's not the end of the world) feel free to take whichever slot you'd like. I'd prefer E2M1 but if you want me to take E4M6, I'll gladly do it. Or take both, no worries. 

[JustAthel]

Sweet! Is there a deadline to keep in mind for this?

[magicsofa]

42 minutes ago, Athel said:

Sweet! Is there a deadline to keep in mind for this?

 

Not really... I don't want to go past the original deadline of 12/10/2023. Realistically though we could be done much sooner. It would be good to have a rough draft (at least) of your map within the next 2 months.

 

3 hours ago, LGmaire said:

And yea, sad that it reuses E3M3's midi so no other midis for me there, unless whoever has the E3M3 slot really wants to use the same midi I did...

 

I've been thinking about this, there is a possible compromise of including a secondary .wad with music for E4. I would include the D_E4Mx lumps for ports that can use them, and people like me who actually play with Choco would just have to load the .wad before starting E4 (we're used to crap like that). 

 

3 hours ago, LGmaire said:

^{Damn it man, I only wanted the small map and now I have to do one of the bigger ones, lmao}

 

M6 doesn't have to be big. It can be really nice to have a small map as a breather between epic late-episode masterpieces. 

[OverflowingMocha]

3 hours ago, Dusty_Rhodes said:

Since you're being so gracious (seriously no pressure, take whatever you want if I can't contribute to this project it's not the end of the world) feel free to take whichever slot you'd like. I'd prefer E2M1 but if you want me to take E4M6, I'll gladly do it. Or take both, no worries. 

 

It's fine, don't worry about it. I'll take E4M6 and you can have E2M1.

 

2 minutes ago, magicsofa said:

I've been thinking about this, there is a possible compromise of including a secondary .wad with music for E4. I would include the D_E4Mx lumps for ports that can use them, and people like me who actually play with Choco would just have to load the .wad before starting E4 (we're used to crap like that). 

 

I actually did not know about this, so maybe we could have that.

 

2 minutes ago, magicsofa said:

M6 doesn't have to be big. It can be really nice to have a small map as a breather between epic late-episode masterpieces. 

 

I guess? I feel like an M6 for this project would need to be medium sized but I'll see if maybe I can make it a smaller map.

[Raspoza]

Ig there will be no room for me, then?

[magicsofa]

18 hours ago, Raspoza said:

Ig there will be no room for me, then?

 

Sorry, not at the moment. However there are a couple people who haven't updated in a long time so there could be a slot or two opening up soon. I'll be sure to let you know if it happens!

 

EDIT: Figured I'd go back through the list again to find people who did speak up since I took over, but haven't updated in some time. It's been a bit chaotic with multiple threads and downtime, so no worries if you forgot all about it but please let me know if you are still working or if I should free up your slot:

 

@roadworx (E1M4) last time you said "still here, kinda." Still here?

@Mike_C (E1M6) no update in a few months

@ImpHuman (E1M7) only 3 posts from the account were for this project, inactive since November.

@axdoomer (E1M8, E1M9) inactive since September

@DavidN (E2M3) no update in a while

@Bobby "J (E2M6) no update in over a year! Still here?

@SilverMiner (E3M2) you did say something in November. Still workin?

@Yumheart (E3M3, E4M2) in October you said you would redo E4M2. You are also listed for E3M3, is that right?

@Super Mighty G (E4M7) actually said they were dropping out in the last thread, opened

@sincity2100 (E4M9) you resubmitted your other map (E3M7) but I still have you down for this slot. Still going?

Well @Raspoza looks like E4M7 is definitely open, as I missed their post about dropping out before. I highly doubt the rest of the slots above will stay claimed because some of those people haven't even visited the forums in many months, so if you want to wait for a slot with less pressure (E4M7 is the second to last level after all) then its all good.

Edited January 30, 2023 by magicsofa

[SilverMiner]

1 hour ago, magicsofa said:

@SilverMiner (E3M2) you did say something in November. Still workin?

There's a good chance I'll finish it, but when, I dunno

[Yumheart]

1 hour ago, magicsofa said:

@Yumheart (E3M3, E4M2) in October you said you would redo E4M2. You are also listed for E3M3, is that right?

After some reconsideration I think E4M2 is pretty okay as is, probably a nice spacer between more complicated maps.
I definitely still wanna make an E3M3, got some ideas already :)

Edited January 30, 2023 by Yumheart

[Raspoza]

2 hours ago, magicsofa said:

Well @Raspoza looks like E4M7 is definitely open, as I missed their post about dropping out before. I highly doubt the rest of the slots above will stay claimed because some of those people haven't even visited the forums in many months, so if you want to wait for a slot with less pressure (E4M7 is the second to last level after all) then its all good.

I really wanted to contribute with an episode 4 map, so I will gladly take the e4m7 slot. I will try to make it medium to long length.