Cacoward winners without any cacodemons?

[Trar]

I've been redownloading all the cacoward winners/runners up/honorable mentions so I can sort them by year and this just occured to me. Are there any cacoward winning wads that DON'T have cacodemons? And if there are, would they ever get a shout-out in the cacowards?

[Andromeda]

REKKR doesn't have cacodemons and it won a Cacoward anyway.

[⇛Marnetmar⇛]

More like a no-caco-ward, am I right?

[Devalaous]

52 minutes ago, Andromeda said:

REKKR doesn't have cacodemons and it won a Cacoward anyway.

 

thats cheating and you know it :p

[Gez]

Despite the name, cacowards are not actually about cacodemons. There are over 400 Cacoward winners (just counting stuff that can actually be described as wads, so not counting people, programs, and OSTs; but I am counting honorable mentions and special categories). This extends to over 500 if you also count in the 100 WADs of All Time that predated the Cacowards and covered the first ten years.

 

And yeah, besides REKKR, there are other 100% guaranteed cacodemon-free TCs that have received cacowards. Like Abysm 2, Action Doom 2, Ashes 2063/Afterglow, BGPA Missions: Liberation, Chex Quest 3, Chosen, Foreverhood, Happy Time Circus, Harmony, Hedon, Shadow of the Wool Ball, Shrine II, Total Chaos

There are also mods for non-Doom games, from time to time. Like Heretic gets Curse of D'Sparil, Elf Gets Pissed, Faithless Trilogy, Hexen get Curse of the Lost Gods, Strife gets Strife: Absolute Order...

 

In addition to these obvious caco-free wads, there are some more that can be assumed to be caco-free. First, there are all the deathmatch and CTF wads that got Best DM or Best Multiplayer. Generally, these maps don't have any monster in them, so no cacos. Furthermore, you can also find puzzle maps, notably The Given. No monster either.

 

But then there's yet more! Grove, for example. Cacoward winner, single-player for Doom, monsters present -- no cacos.

 

But yeah, there are over 500 wads to check, I'm not gonna try to make an exhaustive list. Suffice to say, yes, there are.

[Scuba Steve]

There are no Cacodemons in Action Doom 1 or 2.

[Trar]

22 hours ago, Gez said:

Despite the name, cacowards are not actually about cacodemons.

I'm quite aware lol. This was more out of curiosity than anything. Grove was the kind of map I was thinking of, like, "what cacoward-winning 'normal' Doom maps are there with no cacodemons?" Since obviously Heretic and DM maps wouldn't have any.

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

The Cacodemon was chosen as a mascot for a reason - whenever a wad receives a Cacoward, it means that it's such a massive pile of shit that the author is assumed to have two buttholes in order to produce it. Now you know! Congrats to all winners!

[Trar]

I thought we didn't talk about the holes...