why were classic fps game considered as "doom clones"

[DoctorKlump]

it really dosent make sense because im pretty sure doom wasnt even the first fps game, so why was everyone of them considered a doom clone?

[Murdoch]

Because Doom blew the lid off the genre. They were nowhere near as prevelant beforehand. The term came later than Doom as well.

[Herr Dethnout]

The term "Doom clone" is not used in a peyorative way (is kinda similar calling a game Rogue-like), just for clarify heh.

The reason why is called it is because Doom was "The Pilar" into the FPS genre, although FPS and First Person games existed way before Doom it not on the same level of popularity as Doom, and a lot of FPS during the 90's take Doom as a template, most of it having a gameplay similar in essence.

[Rudolph]

It is like how every platformer set in a semi-open world and featuring mild RPG elements is referred to as a Metroidvania nowadays. Ironically, the first non-linear Castlevania title came out the same year as Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, which also played very much like a Metroidvania.

Edited November 13, 2022 by Rudolph

[Ozcar]

Pretty sure the name of fps didnt exist until descent 1994.

[Ozcar]

wait i didnt realized he/she was banned.

Edited November 13, 2022 by Ozcar

[Rudolph]

I do not know how titles work around here. Maybe it is just a custom ironic title?

[LadyMistDragon]

I think the mods got sick of the spammy threads, although it's probably just a 30-day vacation or something.

[Aaron Blain]

Because Doom introduced outdoor areas etc and the term "corridor shooter" no longer sufficed.

[Redneckerz]

Doom was such a huge success that subsequent titles that did similar (Hero, episode selection, badass weapons, sci-fi, cheesy storyline) were called the same.

It also (in that time) was a sign of technical prowess. If you made a doom clone, your engine was at a certain sophistication.

 

Ofcourse, Chasm: The Rift exists, haha.

 

6 hours ago, Rudolph said:

I do not know how titles work around here. Maybe it is just a custom ironic title?

Considering we can change user titles now, probably not. But you can obviously add that and try to ruse someone.

 

3 hours ago, LadyMistDragon said:

I think the mods got sick of the spammy threads, although it's probably just a 30-day vacation or something.

Indeed. Even for the low effort, they were low-effort, haha.

 

[Doomkid]

On 11/13/2022 at 4:38 PM, Ozcar said:

wait i didnt realized he/she was banned.

Just wanted to clarify that they aren’t.

 

Please don’t set your custom title as “banned”, lol. It just confuses people.

[yakfak]

think it's second-hand embarrassment for Id watching all these other companies appearing and producing precisely their idea but with renamed weapons, sillier main characters, worse maps and less abstract textures. contemporaneous reviewers called stuff street fighter 2 clones, too, cos nothing is as wholesale a rip-off as the neo geo reaction to that game. absolute insular genre redos by sufficiently large companies came perilously close to plagiarism in my eyes! (modern reverent indie stuff by small underfunded teams are a different thing, I don't think Prodeus etc are "doom clones" because they're not made in the same era, or by people with the resources to clone them. you could call them fan games? but that has a dismissive air too. it's not just similarity of genre that makes something a doom clone, it has to be a timely response to get on the bandwagon!)

Edited November 15, 2022 by yakfak

[eev]

The concept of calling things a clone of something they share some similarities with isn't something that has gone away, we call any game with permadeath and procedural generation a "roguelike" even if they play nothing like rogue, or every game similar to Metroid a "Metroidvania" even when it has no Castlevania inspiration. 

 

Doom was the popular thing at the time and there was no set concept of a "First Person Shooter", so Doom clone was the way to refer to this kind of game while people didn't know what else to call them.

[HavoX]

1 hour ago, Doomkid said:

Just wanted to clarify that they aren’t.

 

Please don’t set your custom title as “banned”, lol. It just confuses people.

Might as well add that to the list of "Can't use" words for custom titles, heh.

[MS-06FZ Zaku II Kai]

On 11/13/2022 at 6:38 AM, Ozcar said:

wait i didnt realized he/she was banned.

Rule #1 of the Internet: if the user has a pic from Evangelion then it's a dude unless stated otherwise