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A really quick update because I missed quite a few things during a pre-release cleanup. Nothing critical, but still some QoL improvements. Calling it 1.5 as it's too minor for RC2. Download link updated in the OP.

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1. Fixed a few missing textures in map 02.

2. Fixed tons of texture misalignmens in map 08 (idk how I missed so many of them), and a few in other maps. Probably something left still, I'll keep an eye on it.

3. Fixed chainsaw frames debug leftovers. Chainsaw is never used in the wad but still if you idkfa things become weird.

4. Fixed several places where you could randomly get stuck in weird geometry in map 04 with instant fatal consequences.

5. Made it less likely that you get stuck on cacos way above your head in map04 where you can't see them. Monster count is unchanged.

6. Added missing impassable flag to some midtexture barriers in map 07.

7. Fixed a possible sequence break when revisiting map 04. I didn't lead to a softlock but it was very confusing if you accidentally do this.

 

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The non-linear aspect of this wad has got me intrigued!

 

Would you say that pistol-starts are not recommended?

Nevermind, it helps to actually read the entire OP lol.

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beep - a VOD playthrough of episode 1, because I was feeling like playing Doom today. I would urge anyone intrigued by the wad's concept to give it a try, because it is not just a wad tied together with a non-linearity gimmick. It has a lot of funky boom magic to show you, and backs it up with engaging gameplay and aesthetic design in droves.

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This was an exceptional experience. I absolutely love the concept and the execution doesn't disappoint. If you were thinking of giving this a go, dive all the way in, and don't look back. I highly recommend playing it continuous and channeling your inner Jumpwad player to find all you can in Episode 2.

 

10/10 wad; I think this has the potential to be remembered for years to come. See you at next year's cacowards, @Ravendesk

Here is my playthrough. I actually don't recommend watching more than maybe the first level if you're still blind:

 

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UV continuous with saves

Port: DSDA-Doom v0.24.3 -complevel 9

Total IGT: 1:47:33 (True Ending)

Personal Difficulty Evaluation: 3.5 (out of 5. I rated Sunlust 3.8, but I can't really tell which one is harder... maybe similar)

Personal Rating: 9.1 (out of 10)

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Wanted to rate 9.2, but annoyed by Map02, so sorry, subtracted 0.1 :<

Very interesting mapset with non linear progression. Map07 somehow feels like a Sunder map to me, heh. Got the True Ending, but this involves some IDDT usage because I knew I need to find the keys, but I had limited time to play yesterday, so I just used it to cut down a bit of playtime.

 

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1. Are the maps really random? The first time I exited Map01, I went to Map02, but the second time I went to Map08. Maybe there are ways to change the outcome? Not familiar with mapping with UMAPINFO, but would be curious to know.

 

2. What the nerf of LS? It's funny that you said you nerfed it. I didn't read it until today, and I did feel they act strangely... but funnily I got hit by them more :^)

 

3. How do you get the bad ending? I saw the key usage at the end of the good ending so I went back for key hunt, but I can't think of the way of the bad ending.

 

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1 hour ago, GarrettChan said:

UV continuous with saves

Port: DSDA-Doom v0.24.3 -complevel 9

Total IGT: 1:47:33 (True Ending)

Personal Difficulty Evaluation: 3.5 (out of 5. I rated Sunlust 3.8, but I can't really tell which one is harder... maybe similar)

Personal Rating: 9.1 (out of 10)

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Wanted to rate 9.2, but annoyed by Map02, so sorry, subtracted 0.1 :<

Very interesting mapset with non linear progression. Map07 somehow feels like a Sunder map to me, heh. Got the True Ending, but this involves some IDDT usage because I knew I need to find the keys, but I had limited time to play yesterday, so I just used it to cut down a bit of playtime.

 

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1. Are the maps really random? The first time I exited Map01, I went to Map02, but the second time I went to Map08. Maybe there are ways to change the outcome? Not familiar with mapping with UMAPINFO, but would be curious to know.

 

2. What the nerf of LS? It's funny that you said you nerfed it. I didn't read it until today, and I did feel they act strangely... but funnily I got hit by them more :^)

 

3. How do you get the bad ending? I saw the key usage at the end of the good ending so I went back for key hunt, but I can't think of the way of the bad ending.

 

 

Thanks for playing. Yeah map 02 tends to be polarizing. I regret putting it in slot 02 a little bit, but well :)

 

Regarding your questions:

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1. Yes, they are. I used a lost soul based random generator from Magnolia with some modifications of my own to make it work better for 2-choice random instead of 3-choice. Basically when you enter the map you wake up two lost souls that instantly teleport away into two separate closets. From there they will fly in your direction. Whoever wins the race and gets to the end of closet first decides if normal or secret exit will be used. The other one gets blocked. This usually happens around 20 seconds after the start of the map.

 

In theory player's position affects the outcome, because LS fly towards you, but I think there is no meaningful way to utilize this. If you just stay in one place it's also random, because Boom starts each game with new random seed.

 

UMAPINFO does not have anything to do with randomizing exits. It only defines that, for example, normal exit leads to map 02, secret exit leads to map 08, that's all.

 

2. Oh, they just have 45hp, there is no change in their behaviour.

 

3. If you take a normal exit at the end of map 06 instead of searching for secret, you'll get a bad ending.

 

 

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@Ravendesk

 

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Oh right, I remember those from Magnolia. I do think of maybe it's Boom's random seed to do something, but I didn't actually look at the map, so thanks for the explanation.

Lol for the LS, probably I suck at deal with them :)

 

Also lol for the normal exit of Map06. Didn't even think of taking it, haha. Those 4 Soulspheres and 4 MegaArmors at the end are a very big hint about "you need to jump around and find some stuff"... so I'd never think of taking the normal exit of it.

 

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Thanks everyone for playing, all the feedback I received (and all the footage I saw) was invaluable really.

RC2 update is here, download link in the OP is updated. The most significant changes are a few new optional areas accessible in episode 2 and reworked final fight in map 07.

 

Full change log:

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1. Nerfed map 02 on HMP and HNTR as the difficulty was not in line with HMP/HNTR in the rest of the wad.
2. Implemented alternative ways to reach the secret and things needed for the secret in map 06.
3. Tweaked final area platform heights a bit in map 05, so they are more comfortable to move around.
4. Updated chaingun sprites, so it's more clear now that it's buffed. Credit goes to NMN.
5. Max chaingun ammo capacity increased from 200 to 300. It fires so fast that you are left without bullets immediately and chaingun ended up being less useful.
6. Cleaned up the final boss sprites a bit.
7. Coop starts are added. Nothing is balanced or tested for coop, so there are just the starts.
8. Made it possible to get out of the final arena of map 07 on continuous playthrough after the fight has ended.
9. Added a few new small ep2-only areas to map 01.
10. Added another ep2-only route to map 03.
11. Added one alternative way to get YSK in map 07.
12. Slightly reworked the way you get to the secret exit in map 04 to make it more intuitive and more rewarding. Added a new small intermediate area.
13. The final fight in map 07 is significantly reworked. It should now be better balanced and more skill-based and less random on all difficulties.
14. Overall minor changes to make better lower difficulties balancing across the wad.

15. Made BFG pillars in map 04 more visible, so it's now harder to miss bfg.

 

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8. Made it possible to get out of the final arena of map 07 on continuous playthrough after the fight has ended.

15. Made BFG pillars in map 04 more visible, so it's now harder to miss bfg.

Lol, I should've probably reported these but I thought that's a designer's choice so I didn't question much, but yeah, I had these 2 issues.

Thanks for the update.

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I have played through halfway on HMP and it was good (especially difficulty wise MAP02). The only brutal difficulty was the Celtic Cross fight on MAP08. I think 3 Arachnotron and 1 HK is little bit too tough on that arena. My suggestion would be to change 2 arachnos and 2 HKs but I am not expert playtester. Ultimately it is decision of the mapper 

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RC3 is here. The main change is the addition of fast weapon switch. It was suggested by several people who played the earlier versions, I tried it out, and I think it really synergizes well with the scroll for the encounters that involve its usage (and in general quite pleasant to play with).

 

I have also did a lot of additional playtesting for lower difficulties and after adjusting them, I'm really happy with how HMP and HNTR play.

 

Download link in OP is updated.

 

Full change log:

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1. Fast weapon switch.
2. Additional hmp and hntr difficulty balancing.
3. Made yellow key in map 06 more visible.
4. Made bfg platform in map 06 more visible.
5. Made some platforming parts in various maps a little more forgiving and less annoying.
6. In map 03 crushers fight, now crushers have different textures depending on what's beneath them, so you can know what to expect when crusher is still closed.
7. Miscellaneous texture fixes.

 

On 12/21/2022 at 3:31 PM, gudermannian function said:

I think 3 Arachnotron and 1 HK is little bit too tough on that arena. My suggestion would be to change 2 arachnos and 2 HKs but I am not expert playtester. Ultimately it is decision of the mapper 

Thanks for mentioning, I agree that it was more punishing than what HMP usually does in the rest of the wad, so that was adjusted in RC3.

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RC4 is here. All the changes are minor, I will push this version to idgames in several days :)

Link in the OP is updated.

 

Full changelog:

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1. Added better nomo support for maps 02, 06 and 07 (no long lockins in nomo).
2. Replaced stock demos with actually meaningful ones (taken from my failed attempts to max some of the maps).
3. Fixed M_DOOM offsets, the image used to be corrupted under certain conditions, now its ok.
4. Fixed one of the viles waking up earlier than supposed due to nodebuilder issues in map 08.
5. Slightly reduced the amount of flying enemies in map 06 fight. I felt like they don't add much to fight intensity and on the contrary make it less fun. New balance feels better to me.
6. Removed amount of objects used for instakill floors in maps 07 and 05, should improve maps performance on weaker machines.

7. Made episode-2 routes for map 03 a little more convenient to navigate.
8. Various minor texturing fixes.

 

I have also recorded UV-MAX runs for maps that I felt required mapper's max before the final release.

Here they are:

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This is really a great mapset, taking non-linear progression to a new level!

I'm having a lot of fun with it!

I have a question though, is it intended that some textures in map05 are plain color?
 

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1 hour ago, Arwel said:

This is really a great mapset, taking non-linear progression to a new level!

I'm having a lot of fun with it!

I have a question though, is it intended that some textures in map05 are plain color?
 

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Glad you are enjoying the set.

 

Map 05 plain color texturing is indeed intended, that's just the style I have chosen for the internal area of the library. :)

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Goddamn, how did this one fly under my radar?!

 

The concept certainly sounds interesting. I'll put this on my stream candidate list.

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I was intrigued immensely by the concept, then I tried map01 and from there I was sent to map08. I don't like this slaughter-style gameplay at all. I can't imagine a torture worse than being sent randomly from one carnage spot to another.

Maybe I was extremely unlucky and other levels showcase different designs, but if that's not the case, well, I'll pass on this one.

Congratulations of puttin' this one out anyway, it clearly took a lot of work and dedication.

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I was made aware that there was a possible softlock in map 03 (I introduced it in one of the later rc versions so it slipped past the playtesting unfortunately).

So I fixed it and pushed an update to idgames.

 

I tested the fix to be demo-compatible, so it doesn't desync the demos made on previous version, but just in case get the new version anyway please. Sorry for the inconvenience :)

 

Download link is the same.

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