Crab

[baja blast rd.]

 

"Crab" is playing with strafing only for movement (meaning no going directly forward or backwards). Additionally, when I play I don't use the keyboard for movement but I do for weapon switching. 

 

The levels that are best suited are (very) brief, not overly difficult, and don't involve much parkour or platforming.

Now the question you might be asking is: Why? To that I 

 

 

Anyway, a couple days ago I tried Vanguard map07. It was pretty intense. There's actually a pretty sophisticated element of strategy: you have to be in a good spot for when the early four-closet reveal happens, you have to be mindful  about how you wake up revenants and hell knights so they don't all overwhelm you, and you have to kill the arachs when you're ready so the mancs don't take you by surprise (which happened to me here).  I underestimated how intense the mancubi would feel with these controls. Having to panic book it from one half of the arena to the other was just as likely to kill me by making me laugh.  

 

 

As a bonus, a short while ago I tried to get through this fight in Sunlust 14 this way. (It's pretty RNG-reliant.) 

 

 

I'll be doing at least a few more runs in this "category." 

[arsac]

The way doom was meant to be played.

[Lucius Wooding]

Scuttle-strafe to win.

[head_cannon]

If ya got time to gab, ya got time to Crab.

[Horus]

Move over Stroller and Pacifist, it’s all about Crab now

[Dexiaz]

 

 

You'll not finish this wad if you don't move like crab.

[cannonball]

Ah the UV scuttle, it sounds like an appropriate name for a dance.

[Xyzzу]

[thelamp]

these settings make me crabby

 

 

[spineapple tea]

So who's gonna make a WAD built around crab movement, a claw melee attack, and a crab hud while set on the beach?

Edited January 5, 2023 by Spineapple tea

[baja blast rd.]

Probably about the longest map I'd want to try this way

 

 

[SleepyVelvet]

Am I allowed to enter turn inputs while doing strafe inputs (rd's vs thelamp's playthroughs)?  I need to really make sure I understand the definition of UV-Crab before I start diving sidling in.  Or do we have two subcategories: UV-Crab and UV-TrueCrab?

[thelamp]

1 minute ago, NoisyVelvet said:

Am I allowed to enter turn inputs while doing strafe inputs (rd's vs thelamp's playthroughs)?  I need to really make sure I understand the definition of UV-Crab before I start diving sidling in.  Or do we have two subcategories: UV-Crab and UV-TrueCrab?

I think I was just mistaken about turning, that wouldn't make any sense or be playable lol

[Residue]

A very neat idea, sold very effectively by that incredible image alone.

[Ludi]

I'll be dead before I play this way, but neat idea.

Edited January 6, 2023 by Ludi

[Snaxalotl]

not even the doom community isn't safe from carcinization it seems

[TheHambourgeois]

D-doomguy-sama...

So this is definitely a new category for DSDA right?
 

[baja blast rd.]

8 minutes ago, TheHambourgeois said:

So this is definitely a new category for DSDA right?

 

It's sort of an informal category already and there might be a few existing demos already (but I'm not sure if those are on DSDA). 

[Beginner]

Crab? More like "I wanted to show off my mouse-only skillz but I forgot that I have had novert turned on and now I have to play like this".

[Billa]

There's no crab demos on the archive as far as I know, but there is this failed attempt at lv01: 

 

Not really a category as much as a modifier, like Reality - you can do every category besides Stroller as a crab lol. If there were rules for it in the old Doom honourific days they're unclear and haven't survived to the present day. 

 

[Grazza]

On 1/6/2023 at 4:06 AM, Billa said:

If there were rules for it in the old Doom honourific days they're unclear and haven't survived to the present day. 

As far as I am aware, I invented the idea from scratch when I suggested it in an old forum post here. Barring an extraordinary coincidence you will not find any earlier specifications of it as a category.

 

The intent of my original post was just that there should be no forward or backward movement at all. No other restrictions. So yes, it can be combined with most other categories. SR50 and SL50 tics are fine too, so most "normal" gaps (i.e. ones designed to require only standard running) can be crossed.

Edited January 10, 2023 by Grazza
link to old post added

[baja blast rd.]

Playing e2m8 the real classic '90s style back when no one had good control schemes, it's actually balanced. Therefore I conclude that e2m8 is Underrated. 

 

 

[SleepyVelvet]

15 minutes ago, baja blast rd. said:

Playing e2m8 the real classic '90s style back when no one had good control schemes, it's actually balanced. Therefore I conclude that e2m8 is Underrated.

 

Heh, when I played during the 90's, my signature move for most fights was a similar chunky keyboard circle-strafe, or more like a "polygon strafe": ALT+LeftArrow (strafe stictly left for a bit)... release and jab RightArrow (turn right real quickly)... Switch back to left-strafe; Repeat this while holding CTRL and firing constantly at a blob of clumped monsters.

 

Truly an advanced technique.  'Was proud.  Fuck Revenants and Archviles though.

Edited January 20, 2023 by NoisyVelvet

[thelamp]

>:)

 

 

[Grain of Salt]

On 1/20/2023 at 9:44 PM, baja blast rd. said:

Playing e2m8 the real classic '90s style back when no one had good control schemes, it's actually balanced. Therefore I conclude that e2m8 is Underrated.

 

I think playing e2m8 *without* strafing (ie just forward, back and turn) is the real 90s experience. Took me weeks to beat the cyberdemon like that.

[baja blast rd.]

Yeah, I know. Just being cheeky implying that people played Crab in the '90s. :P

[Grain of Salt]

On 1/26/2023 at 6:40 AM, baja blast rd. said:

Yeah, I know. Just being cheeky implying that people played Crab in the '90s. :P

 

Oh. I yam slow :v