so many original copies of Original Doom on archive.org

[AnthonyTankHD]

 

Man you could find some good stuff on the internet archive you could find some amazing stuff

 

[ChaoticReverie]

What is the point of this thread? Aside from seemingly promoting piracy.

[Nefelibeta]

22 minutes ago, ChaoticReverie said:

What is the point of this thread? Aside from seemingly promoting piracy.

...how is that promoting piracy?

 

(Edit: I take this back.)

Edited February 4, 2023 by Nefelibeta

[AnthonyTankHD]

12 minutes ago, ChaoticReverie said:

What is the point of this thread? Aside from seemingly promoting piracy.

we need to get rid of the term piracy

cause at the end of the day it all comes down to sharing with others people and that what the beauty of it Cause I believe in decentralized peer to peer network of gathering, collection and also sharing data and media in free culture society of the decentralized network of putting the internet back in people hands

we shouldn't be scared of it instead we should embrace it and accept it

sharing and collecting is the most valuable part of human nature cause we us humans love to share things to make us feel happy and have a passion about

 

[spineapple tea]

13 minutes ago, AnthonyTankHD said:

we need to get rid of the term piracy

cause at the end of the day it all comes down to sharing with others people and that what the beauty of it Cause I believe in decentralized peer to peer network of gathering, collection and also sharing data and media in free culture society of the decentralized network of putting the internet back in people hands

we shouldn't be scared of it instead we should embrace it and accept it

sharing and collecting is the most valuable part of human nature cause we us humans love to share things to make us feel happy and have a passion about

I also believe we should get rid of the term robbery because we just need to share what we all love. The publishers are still selling and making profit off of Doom, so it's clearly not abandonware that needs preserving yet. Of course Doom is one of humanity's greatest accomplishments, but for just five dollars on Steam it's not being locked behind a wall built by evil corporations that requires the people to take the power back.

 

Side note: I'm not encouraging you to make more seemingly or completely pointless threads, but I love these threads.

Edited February 4, 2023 by spineapple tea

[xX_Lol6_Xx]

Not only that, Heretic (With the expansion episodes), HeXen (With Deathkings) and Strife are also there.

[arsac]

This is very much promoting warez. Doom is not abandonware, it doesn't need to be shared around like this and is literally 5 bucks on Steam.

Edited February 4, 2023 by Z50

[Mr Masker]

19 minutes ago, spineapple tea said:

I also believe we should get rid of the term robbery because we just need to share what we all love.

Let's all just get rid of the term, "Property". I mean, I probably need that sink more than you do, can you really blame me for ripping it off the ground?

Edited February 4, 2023 by Mr Masker

[Stupid Bunny]

31 minutes ago, AnthonyTankHD said:

we need to get rid of the term piracy

Do what you want cause a decentralized sharer is free

You are a sharer

 

[mrthejoshmon]

Archive DOT org kind of annoys me, on the one hand you can find some genuinely interesting truly lost articles and software on there that are a joy to explore, on the other you find an absolute swathe of trash like some dickhead's 500 episodes of podcasts nobody cared about, 1 page legal documents pertaining to the copyright of exactly 1 film in Yugoslavia or some shit and several copies of shit that is legally and readily available.

 

I love the idea behind Archive DOT org, hell I even donate to it, and I understand that it is important that archival extends to everything, however something tells me a lotta folks missed the point.

 

Spoiler

Do I have to write DOT org? Does linking to it by using the full name in a sentence count as warez?

 

Edited February 4, 2023 by mrthejoshmon

[Lucius Wooding]

2 minutes ago, mrthejoshmon said:

 

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Do I have to write DOT org? Does linking to it by using the full name in a sentence count as warez?

 

I just assumed you were following OP's lead and refusing to use punctuation.

[mrthejoshmon]

Just now, Lucius Wooding said:

I just assumed you were following OP's lead and refusing to use punctuation.

Damn, that's a missed opportunity for snarky shitposting.

 

I'll do better next time.

[spineapple tea]

14 minutes ago, mrthejoshmon said:

Archive DOT org kind of annoys me, on the one hand you can find some genuinely interesting truly lost articles and software on there that are a joy to explore, on the other you find an absolute swathe of trash like some dickhead's 500 episodes of podcasts nobody cared about, 1 page legal documents pertaining to the copyright of exactly 1 film in Yugoslavia or some shit and several copies of shit that is legally and readily available.

It can be annoying when you're looking for old software and half of it is poorly made porn games on DOS or whatnot, but I don't see why there should be any reason against archiving something like the 500 episode podcast. Sure, it's likely nobody cared about it at the time, but maybe somebody will come across it in the future and find value in it, even if that value is laughing at how valueless it is. Plus, what if one episode just so happens to contain the only known reference to some valuable lost media? Again, extremely unlikely, but just because you don't think something has value now doesn't mean it never will. The part about archiving legally obtainable stuff however is completely right though, like how people are "archiving" one of the most readily available and owned games ever made, Doom.

Edited February 4, 2023 by spineapple tea

[RataUnderground]

Piracy is when you make a profit by distributing things illegally. Sharing is simply being a good neighbor.

[Paf]

tbf who really cares over pirating a 30 year old game at this point, the original devs don't get any more pay for their work and now we just have a company who rips off their composers for fun. if you're pirating a game you probably weren't even going to buy it anyways

 

if piracy is that much of a problem for a consumer, then just don't pirate. there's a difference between digital and physical, downloading a game that costs money for free is different from stealing a sink from someone else. digital is much easier to reproduce/copy but physical isn't

 

most based dw thread of 2023 

[mrthejoshmon]

5 minutes ago, spineapple tea said:

It can be annoying when you're looking for old software and half of it is poorly made porn games on DOS or whatnot, but I don't see why there should be any reason against archiving something like the 500 episode podcast. Sure, it's likely nobody cared about it at the time, but maybe somebody will come across it in the future and find value in it, even if that value is laughing at how valueless it is. Plus, what if one episode just so happens to contain the only known reference to some valuable lost media? Again, extremely unlikely, but just because you don't think something has value now doesn't mean it never will. 

 

True, which is why I put this line in my rant:

 

16 minutes ago, mrthejoshmon said:

... and I understand that it is important that archival extends to everything...

 

Because yeah, it's super annoying to slog through the chaff but ultimately it being there does have a purpose. Admittedly, it is a little difficult to gauge that from the way I worded it (which is completely on me, apologies).

[Stupid Bunny]

8 minutes ago, Paf said:

tbf who really cares over pirating a 30 year old game at this point, the original devs don't get any more pay for their work and now we just have a company who rips off their composers for fun.

I think the admins here have very good reasons for discouraging us from publicly sharing pirated copies of Doom on the forums

Edited February 4, 2023 by Stupid Bunny

[Mordeth]

Going to close this thread. Please don't promote warez.