n3o m3tall Posted March 14, 2023 My initial playthrough of the wad had me concerned something was up with my laptop! But then I started to noticed changes (some subtle, some not so subtle) and realized with delight that there was much more to this than meets the eye. I still have yet to find all the content mentioned and will definitely revisit - thanks! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mr. Freeze Posted March 14, 2023 This is the first WAD in years that kept my attention for over an hour uninterrupted, and got me emotionally attached to see what happened next. Any future wads hoping to score a Cacoward are facing some serious competition from this one. Spoiler @Veddge are you perchance a fan of the game Visage? The part where you unveil the mirror in the attic is straight out of Dolores' chapter, to the point where my heart started racing thinking I was in for a real horrorshow. I definitely see the P.T. and House of Leaves inspirations. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
Kyka Posted March 14, 2023 I would have missed this entirely, had it not been for @Fernito recommending it to me. And reading the comments here, like, what the hell is going on? The screens in the OP just look like a house with some nice Doomcute and in no way reflect anything that might resemble the sort of thing being discussed. Or is that just part of the mindf*** that is going on here. @Veddge Profoundly sorry for your loss. I will play this soon I think. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
BROS_ETT_311 Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) T̸̢̝̩̝͙̟̙̬̬͚̠͇͈͙͍̖͐̓̈́̐̽͑h̸̨̡̡̧̛͉͖̪̘͖̭̬̱͇͚̟̤̺̿̔͂̋̇̂̃͒̊͊͒͊̈́̅̔͐͌̃͜͜͝ͅͅí̷̢̨̛̛̼̱̳̳̤͈͕̩̝̜̯̰͙͎̲̜͖̘̝̤̣͓̣̲͆̃͌̒̃͗̋͋̀͛͐̇̐̈̋͐̅͑͊̃͐͐̄̏͘̕͜s̵͕̪̦̓̋̆̍̈́̍̃̋̀͂͂̀̈́̽̀̾̔̅̈́͌̅̄̅̽̍̓͝͝͝͠ ̶̯̱͚̯̠͎̲̯͓̼̝̞̗̣̥͕̳̤͖̲͈͉͍̼͌̊̓̆̒̋͋̂̾͂̈̈́͛́͛͌̅͊͘̚͜ī̸̡̧̢̢̡̱̩̙̞͓͙̹̻̖̬̟̬̘̦̖̪̐̄̓͆́̌̓̄̂͛͒͒̾̌̀̉͛̅̔̄̏̌̈̃̀̚͜͜͠͝ş̷̡͕̲̪̬̩͍͍̲̲͎͇̭̯͙̤͖̠̭̣̯̙̱̟͇̫̪͐̒̒̐̉͌̏͌̌̇́̉͒͋̉̈́́̃̓̚̕̚̕͜͝ ̵̛̠͎͍̳̳̀́̉̈́̓̄̀̂̉̈́̒̓̋̐̑̇̏̈̈́̾͒̏͒̕͝͝͠à̶̧̯̗̥̜̪̲͇͎͓̲̬͚̜̜̺̳͎͉̤̆́͒́̃̓̅̌̍́̍̕͝ͅ ̵̢̡̧̢̧̛̛͍̣̤͉̫̗͉͓̬̬͉͖͇̞̫̥̹̮̱̾̀̆̏̽͛͐̇͂͋͛̐͆̕̚̚͜͜͠ẇ̸̢̡̛̛̗̝̖̘̼̻̟͈̘̩͔͓͇͉͎̹̫̤̰͕̖̺̆̈́̔̈́͋̈́̎̅̽́́̓̓̐̈̃̋͘͘͜ą̶̧̛̖̠͉͉̻̠͔̬̝̬̖͖̻̣̪̪͓͙̤d̸̖̖̭̤͚͔̮͙̘̳͑͒̌̌̃̃̓͊̽̓͐̈̒͒̋̉͂͌͠.̸̨̹̺̥̩̲̮̞̠̆̓̓̈́͊͊͑̅̎̀̍͑͂̎̐̐́́̎̏͌̕͘͝͠͝͝ Edited March 14, 2023 by BROS_ETT_311 6 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mr. Freeze Posted March 14, 2023 Also from the outside it looks like Veddge legit made a simple myhouse.wad and spent 6 pages arguing with people over it lol 7 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mr Masker Posted March 14, 2023 11 hours ago, Kyka said: I would have missed this entirely, had it not been for @Fernito recommending it to me. And reading the comments here, like, what the hell is going on? The screens in the OP just look like a house with some nice Doomcute and in no way reflect anything that might resemble the sort of thing being discussed. Or is that just part of the mindf*** that is going on here. It's quite the house recreation. The bathrooms are beautiful... 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
skillsaw Posted March 14, 2023 ...wow. Obviously I don't want to say much but this map will stick with me. Wow. 21 Quote Share this post Link to post
dac Posted March 14, 2023 Two playthroughs done, one to the normal ending and one to the "true" ending. Even as far as horror goes and me not being that much of a fan of the genre this rattled me harder than some actual horror games. Top map of 2023 so far, and it will probably stay that way. Spoiler I admit the fake discord notification got me both times lol. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post
Astro X Posted March 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, dac said: Two playthroughs done, one to the normal ending and one to the "true" ending. Even as far as horror goes and me not being that much of a fan of the genre this rattled me harder than some actual horror games. Top map of 2023 so far, and it will probably stay that way. Reveal hidden contents I admit the fake discord notification got me both times lol. Spoiler Exactly!!! Out of all things, that one was the most cursed thing ever. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Catpho Posted March 14, 2023 Spoiler Finally finished the thing, and stumbled and staggered into all 4 endings (so far). It took about 5 restarts over several days, and I had to throw in the towel and consult the walkthrough several times, as I kept being thrown into dead ends and red herrings throughout my exploration. It makes the map a massive pain to play at points, but the induvidual steps make sense emotionally and intellectually considering the content that I'm willing to see it as a feature, not a bug. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post
Amiga Angel Posted March 14, 2023 the detailing is amazing and the house is huge... 3 bathrooms? thats pretty wild... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Gregor Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) I haven't touched Doom since Dec last year. Felt kinda burnt out after playing too many mapsets in a row. Checked into Doomworld today to find this gem of a release. Incredible map. Absolute masterpiece. I'm completely floored. One of the most beautiful creations to ever come out of Doom. Just such a cool concept and near perfect execution. Bellissimo. And thank you to @Jimmy for the awesome Doomwiki article! Well written and very comprehensive. Without that i would have probably thrown in the towel along the way as i got stuck quite often. Btw, a cool little thing i found while playing. Spoilers ahead: Spoiler In case you missed it, once you return from the Mirror Gas Station to the "real" dimension, you can go up to the attic and see the Mirror Vile through the large mirror, standing motionless where the Christmas ornament was on the floor. I thought that was pretty cool detail. Also kinda spooky. Also the song that plays from the crashed car close to the Gas Station fittingly is the infamous "Like the Wind" aka "The Most Mysterious Song on the Internet". I think that could also be worth adding to wiki article. Edited March 24, 2023 by Gregor 7 Quote Share this post Link to post
Ravendesk Posted March 15, 2023 Cool map, thanks for making it. It was a very fun experience. I really like how you almost always manage to predict exactly what player is going to do, so you execute your tricks accordingly. Spoiler Soulsphere sequence at the start was one example, but then you did it several times more as the map progressed. Good stuff. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Loomis Posted March 15, 2023 Well, that was definitely a trip. More than once I wasn't sure if my mind played tricks on me or if it was the map itself. This was a map like I never experienced one in 30 years of playing Doom. Also thanks to @Jimmy from my side, without the Doomwiki article I wouldn't have found my way through that nightmare. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Andromeda Posted March 15, 2023 7 hours ago, Gregor said: Spoiler Also the song that plays from the crashed car close to the Gas Station fittingly is the infamous "Like the Wind" aka "The Most Mysterious Song on the Internet". I think that could also be worth adding to wiki article. Spoiler It's already on the wiki article, under the "Trivia" section. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
giwake Posted March 15, 2023 Good map! I've always enjoyed houses and other "regular and normal" spaces made in Doom :) Spoiler It made a fucking discord pinging noise, I know it fucking did. I didn't have discord open. It made the ping noise. I know it did. Holy shit. I ended up at the house being sold. Didn't know what to do. Gonna look through the .pk3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Soulless Posted March 15, 2023 Damn, theres too much stuff to mention, I just wanted to play a little doomcute map! It was an incredible doom experience, but after reading most of the info on the thread I know that theres a lot more to see..., I got the "for sale" ending. I would love to watch a 100% playthrough. Good times! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Kyka Posted March 15, 2023 Like some others, I found myself profoundly moved by this wad. I don't even have an explanation as to exactly why that is. But it really was a surreal, beautiful, magical experience. I didn't know doom could do that. Not embarrassed to admit I shed a couple of tears at one point. Again I don't know why. Wonderful. Spoiler I got the for sale ending. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
Eevee Posted March 15, 2023 my condolences on the loss of your friend, m c escher i love this so much. i love it especially because 90% of it is exactly the sort of thing i would want to make, and here you've saved me so much trouble by already having done it. everything about it is impeccably clever and the way it plays with doom culture is excellent. can't wait to read all these spoiler posts, but despite getting seemingly everything, i'm still missing something... 10 Quote Share this post Link to post
n3o m3tall Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) Finished second playthrough and definitely got more bang for my buck the second time around. Such a trippy, eerie experience - loved it! Spoiler Does anyone know, are you able to return to the House to see all the collectibles displayed? After taking this screenshot I know I collected a pumpkin, pill bottle and something by the dog house. Edited March 16, 2023 by n3o m3tall 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Gregor Posted March 16, 2023 30 minutes ago, n3o m3tall said: Hide contents Does anyone know, are you able to return to the House to see all the collectibles displayed? After taking this screenshot I know I collected a pumpkin, pill bottle and something by the dog house. Spoiler You can indeed. If you collected all 16 artifacts before the final fight, they will all show on the wall. Eight in the living room in the normal reality and another eight in the living room in the mirror reality. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
ProfBloom Posted March 16, 2023 Played it tonight, and without spoilers, I can easily say this is one of the most incredible, moving things I've ever played. Masterpiece. I nearly skipped it entirely because of the name of the thread until I saw how many replies there were. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
Eevee Posted March 16, 2023 i think i did it. i can't tell if i did it. there could be more. there's always more. but i'm guessing the solitary secret is the true ending? 1 hour ago, ProfBloom said: I nearly skipped it entirely because of the name of the thread until I saw how many replies there were. honestly, one of the most impressive parts of this is dropping it with such humble trappings and just trusting that enough people will try it. i linked the thread to someone else and we were confused for like twenty minutes until discovering that they'd played the wad instead of the pk3 9 Quote Share this post Link to post
Catpho Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) Yeah, the OP is a gambit of a lifetime. Also contains the best use of reg date I've ever seen (and probably the only correct use). Things would be different if this was a brand new account à la @Trustworthy Software. Edited March 16, 2023 by Catpho 5 Quote Share this post Link to post
Scuba Steve Posted March 16, 2023 I only started paying attention because I noticed @Not Jabba was posting lengthy essays in a thread and was trying to figure what the fuck he was going on about. 10 Quote Share this post Link to post
TJG1289 Posted March 16, 2023 I saw the thread when it only had 4-5 replies to it. I thought it looked cute, but didn't think to play it. Next thing I know, Shepardus nominated it in the Cacowards thread, mentioning how the thread is 90% in spoiler tags, and knew instantly something wasn't right with this map. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post
Shepardus Posted March 16, 2023 27 minutes ago, Scuba Steve said: I only started paying attention because I noticed @Not Jabba was posting lengthy essays in a thread and was trying to figure what the fuck he was going on about. And I played it because I saw your post and was curious what you had just played. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post
Gregor Posted March 16, 2023 On 3/12/2023 at 10:07 PM, roadworx said: Hide contents this is probably gonna sound pretentious and like i'm overblowing how much this affected me, but i really don't give a rat's ass. this did some shit to me, and i need to talk about it, even though i'll regret it the moment i press "submit reply". the part where the house suddenly loses all of its doors and keeps changing in minor ways while d_runnin becomes more and more distorted just...really fucked with me in a way that nothing else has. i'm not gonna get into specifics, but it brought some stuff that i've been dealing with for the past several years to the surface, and kinda put what it can be like at times into words (or map design, i suppose). tbh, if i had taken a bit longer to figure out what to do - it took about five or ten minutes for me to finally realize that i needed to move the bookcase - i probably would've had an emotional episode. despite it ending, however, the sense of overwhelming dread and impending doom that it gave me lingered on throughout the entire playthrough. it was honestly kind of terrible! so, from the bottom of my heart, thank you. that may sound weird after just having described something extremely negative, but getting to experience something that affects me on such a deeply profound level is incredibly rare. it takes a lot for a piece of media do that. you, and those who helped you bring this work of art to fruition, have seriously made a masterpiece. Spoiler Since it touched you so much you should perhaps know that the burned house is not the actual ending but more of an optional area. The level goes on for a lot longer. It progresses when you enter the mirror world through the upstairs bathroom mirror. Check out the Doomwiki article for pointers if you get stuck. This map has so much awesome content that is worth experiencing in full. And the good ending is really beautiful. On 3/13/2023 at 12:09 AM, General Rainbow Bacon said: This is one of the best maps I've ever played. Hide contents I'm trying to figure out what you have to do to get the passage to the giant maze to open. Anyone figure it out? Spoiler I just figured that out myself and added it to the Doomwiki article. It's based on chance. Once you picked up the blue skull key in the attic, the closet door in the smaller of the two upstairs bedrooms will open to the maze with about a 9% chance. So you might have to open it quite a few times before the passage opens. The longest time i had to wait was around 30 tries. But most of the time it doesn't take that long. Picking up the blue skull key activates a script that generates a number between 0 and 10 each time the closet door is opened and links to the labyrinth whenever a 10 is rolled. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
Eevee Posted March 16, 2023 technically this is a spoiler, but i think it's a very mild one. if you're wondering if you've genuinely reached the end of the map: Spoiler if you took the exit, you're not done yet 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
roadworx Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Gregor said: Hide contents Since it touched you so much you should perhaps know that the burned house is not the actual ending but more of an optional area. The level goes on for a lot longer. It progresses when you enter the mirror world through the upstairs bathroom mirror. Check out the Doomwiki article for pointers if you get stuck. This map has so much awesome content that is worth experiencing in full. And the good ending is really beautiful. oh, i know, i played through the entire thing. sorry if i didn't make that clear enough!! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
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