Bananya Posted June 17, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 5:50 PM, Devalaous said: Hide contents The same way you got in, which is easier said than done. If your really desperate to get out, enable the textured automap, default button is P I believe, then you can keep track of where the hell you are in the damn thing. Spoiler Sorry for the late response, i just thought there was some other way out that lead someplace else 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
SakuraFalls Posted June 17, 2023 Hi, to those who continue to say that it's "loosely" connected to House of Leaves. Incorrect. It borrows so heavily from House of Leaves & Backrooms that it becomes more of immitation than inspiration. In other words, it starts to lose steam in being engaging. After a second playthrough, I've come to this realization that it's not really that special. While I can still appreciate the time & effort put into this. I must be true to my critique. With that being said, I will now give my final overall rating: 6/10 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Scuba Steve Posted June 17, 2023 I'm not terminally online—but I get some of the liminal references—however I read House of Leaves last Summer (I read it before myhouse made it cool!) and beyond the closet being a direct adaptation of the hallway from the book... I don't actually see any other references to the book in the map. The 'For Sale' sign is a cute little nod, but there really isn't anything else in the map itself which immediately screams 'this is from House of Leaves.' Both attempt to use a familiar medium (a book or the game Doom) and take the familiarity of each and twist it to become unfamiliar causing the reader/player to feel uncomfortable. The journal cribs a bit, but as far as the map itself, I just see slight inspiration. 14 Quote Share this post Link to post
Blast_Brothers Posted June 17, 2023 Even still, I don't think borrowing from House of Leaves should be taken as a negative. It's unique and interesting because it borrows from something that you would never expect to find crossed over with Doom. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
ShallowB Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) I think there's a lot of parallels in how the story is told, too. House of Leaves is about a guy editing a book his dead friend wrote about a weird house, MyHouse is about a guy editing a Doom map his dead friend made about a weird house. Switch out some names and replace every instance of the word "book" with "Doom map" and I think a brief summary of House of Leaves becomes more or less indistinguishable from one of MyHouse. Still, there's enough differences there that I wouldn't call it an imitation, or a retelling, or a rip-off, as I've seen some people do. Seems like poor media literacy at best, and an outright refusal to engage with the work on anything beyond the surface level at worst. HoL is a book about the way society neglects the elderly and the disabled, the way we tend to ignore mental health issues and generational trauma (even our own), explores the way addictions of various kinds can ruin not just addicts' lives, but their families' as well. And it's a book about the book publishing industry itself. MyHouse has very different themes, exploring the relationship between nostalgia and regret, going in to gender identity and sexuality, the entire grieving process after suffering a loss; all things that never come up in House of Leaves. And it's about the Doom community and the evolution of Doom mapping, something that, being free, open-source, and community-driven instead of a for-profit corporate environment, is absolutely nothing like the HoL metacommentary on publishers. The fact that both stories use "weird house" as a narrative device doesn't mean they are the same story. Maybe a house is just a really good metaphor for a feeling of home, comfort, and belonging, and warping it into something predatory is a good way to convey a variety of complicated situations humans deal with in their lives. Edited June 18, 2023 by ShallowB 17 Quote Share this post Link to post
j0lt Posted June 18, 2023 What. The actual fuck! That was AMAZING! I have no idea how you did half the stuff in there, and I probably didn't even see all of it, but holy crap! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
superGuerreiro Posted June 18, 2023 Been lurking around for a couple of years, but created an account specifically to comment in this thread. Congratulations, this was an amazing experience. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
ultra_kek Posted June 19, 2023 On 6/17/2023 at 1:12 PM, SakuraFalls said: Hi, to those who continue to say that it's "loosely" connected to House of Leaves. Incorrect. It borrows so heavily from House of Leaves & Backrooms that it becomes more of immitation than inspiration. In other words, it starts to lose steam in being engaging. After a second playthrough, I've come to this realization that it's not really that special. While I can still appreciate the time & effort put into this. I must be true to my critique. With that being said, I will now give my final overall rating: 6/10 Not in the interest to start another dogpile, but this is like the third time you've added these kinds of interjections to the thread. You're entitled to your own opinion, but coming onto the thread again just to make a message specifically directed towards those who enjoyed the wad to rebut them and tell them it's "not that special" doesn't feel like it's being done in particularly good faith to be honest. 9 Quote Share this post Link to post
kuirivito Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ultra_kek said: Not in the interest to start another dogpile, but this is like the third time you've added these kinds of interjections to the thread. You're entitled to your own opinion, but coming onto the thread again just to make a message specifically directed towards those who enjoyed the wad to rebut them and tell them it's "not that special" doesn't feel like it's being done in particularly good faith to be honest. This is actually the perfect response to the guy, and I commend the amount of tact you demonstrated writing it. I, myself, personally see the many connections with House of Leaves as something that can be commended and add to the WAD, as it reintroduced me to the book. I'd remembered hearing about it years ago, but hadn't had the money, time, or interest at the time to go and get it. Now, after playing this WAD and getting roped back in, I ended up buying myself a copy of the book and have been enjoying the hell out of it so far. It's a great read. Edited June 19, 2023 by kuirivito typo 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
Scuba Steve Posted June 19, 2023 13 hours ago, ultra_kek said: Not in the interest to start another dogpile, but this is like the third time you've added these kinds of interjections to the thread. You're entitled to your own opinion, but coming onto the thread again just to make a message specifically directed towards those who enjoyed the wad to rebut them and tell them it's "not that special" doesn't feel like it's being done in particularly good faith to be honest. I dunno... I don't think it's wrong, but I'd love for them to replay and describe where the map itself outright apes the book (beyond the hallway). 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
LukeJR Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) It's interesting how there's people who believe this map was created with too much HOL. While others seem to think that it's not inspired. Here's the thing, even if you don't like the map... that's okay! Even if you think the map borrows too much from different mediums. That's okay too! Guys! It's a freakin' MAP! Okay? It's not important whether you LOVE or HATE it. Just experience it, enjoy it, accept it, believe that you had a great time. There's no need for all this deep thinking. I will have to call out some people now: ultra_kek's comment is decent but it needs more structure. My main issue is that you need to just allow a person to freely express how they feel. Scuba Steve is the most sensible out of you four involved! At least he has mentioned something that can lead to resolving this problem. As for Sakura & a few other names I won't mention, just express your opinion and stop fighting each other. There's no need for debate. There's no need to get aggressive or say things that are just outright rude. ultra_kek, we appreciate your response. There's no need to take this conversation further. I'm putting an end to it bc it's clear that you can't be trusted to stay civil with each other. [Edit] New topic to discuss together: [MyHouse's Story] Edited June 19, 2023 by LukeJR 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
ShallowB Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) I’ve never even heard of these people. Edited June 20, 2023 by ShallowB 5 Quote Share this post Link to post
cardboard42 Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) I'm stuck in the Spoiler grey basement under the ruined house and can't figure out how to proceed, am I missing something? EDIT: The thing I was missing was a brain. Figured it out. Edited June 20, 2023 by cardboard42 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Faceman2000 Posted June 20, 2023 Someone should nominate this for a Cacoaward. 10 Quote Share this post Link to post
jakit579 Posted June 21, 2023 can you get this to run on questzdoom? Ive seen it and wanted to play it but i have no pc =( 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Marrless Posted June 22, 2023 "Finished" this map today, but missed so much. Could spend even more hours messing around with stuff in here. This feels like a milestone in player-created content. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
trashboat Posted June 22, 2023 this was very engaging, for my first DOOM wad to "completion" I thoroughly enjoyed myself, I Spoiler I was told by a friend that killing either dog in the "Backrooms"-esc place kills the other, so being me I tried not to kill either and did so, both dogs were safe and I was left satisfied, but I do have to say I wonder how much more I could have figured out if I just let go of my morals and killed either dog, but I honestly couldn't live with that lol so I end it here, very well made, at first I thought it was a flex of someone's professional wad making skills but I was shut down, 10/10 from me 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Regnak Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) Hi, I orginally played Doom back in the early 90s when the shareware version was first available, I even dabbled with creating my own levels for Doom (before Doom2, or Ultimate Doom) with DoomEd. I remember getting compliations of doom wads included on magazine cover disks, loads of myhouse wads or my school wads (though that went out of fashion very quickly) and from time to time I still come back to play the vanilla game either on PC or more often on the x-box port. Not sure why but something in my youtube history must have flagged Doom as something I'm interested in because a video about this map popped up and I thought I'd have a look... ... and I've just had to create an account to comment. Congratulations on creating something so profound and affecting in a 30 year old game about shooting demons with a shotgun. Edited June 22, 2023 by Regnak correct spelling. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
daydreamer Posted June 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Regnak said: .Congratulations on creating something so profound and affecting in a 30 year old game about shooting demons with a shotgun. Agreed. Everything about this map is sublime and all the preparation and extra material is just mind blowing. This map will go down in internet history 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
RataUnderground Posted June 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Regnak said: Hi, I orginally played Doom back in the early 90s when the shareware version was first available, I even dabbled with creating my own levels for Doom (before Doom2, or Ultimate Doom) with DoomEd. Probably you mean DEU, since DoomEd was an internal tool in ID software. (sorry for nitpicking, have a good day!) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Regnak Posted June 22, 2023 44 minutes ago, RataUnderground said: Probably you mean DEU, since DoomEd was an internal tool in ID software. (sorry for nitpicking, have a good day!) Nope, I mean Doom Ed, it was for windows 3.1. Looked like this... 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
RataUnderground Posted June 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Regnak said: Nope, I mean Doom Ed, it was for windows 3.1. Looked like this... Oh I see, he called it the same as the ID editor! I always loved the aesthetics of Windows 3 xD 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Liberation Posted June 22, 2023 Folks, we keep having people posting information as to the "MyHouse" in RL and the people that live there. The DW mod team consider this doxxing and it won't be tolerated, we simply do not want that kind of information posted on DW. 21 Quote Share this post Link to post
daydreamer Posted June 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Liberation said: Folks, we keep having people posting information as to the "MyHouse" in RL and the people that live there. The DW mod team consider this doxxing and it won't be tolerated, we simply do not want that kind of information posted on DW. i can see my comment was reminded as well, apologies. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
DorkToast Posted June 23, 2023 I spent some time trying to map out the different iterations of the house on the map. 11 Quote Share this post Link to post
zombie_ryushu Posted June 23, 2023 I have my own (more Hexen oriented) project going on, and I am interested in some of the advanced technical concepts used in MyHouse.wad, however it needs to be limited to the Zandronum Engine. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
daydreamer Posted June 23, 2023 3 hours ago, DorkToast said: I spent some time trying to map out the different iterations of the house on the map. if you haven’t seen it I can recommend this video series going through how the map was built. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
thealchemian Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) [Is it possible to run MyHouse on a Switch?] I'm super new to Doom modding and I don’t have a lot of time to play games outside of my commute to and from work so I usually bring my switch around. I already played around with that GZ Doom Port and the launcher accompanying it, but when I tried to patch the Doom2.wad the program crashed. Tried another wad called Liminal Doom and it worked just fine so yeah idk Edited June 23, 2023 by thealchemian 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
CuppaBro Posted June 25, 2023 On 6/23/2023 at 11:16 AM, thealchemian said: [Is it possible to run MyHouse on a Switch?] I'm super new to Doom modding and I don’t have a lot of time to play games outside of my commute to and from work so I usually bring my switch around. I already played around with that GZ Doom Port and the launcher accompanying it, but when I tried to patch the Doom2.wad the program crashed. Tried another wad called Liminal Doom and it worked just fine so yeah idk What do you mean by "tried to patch the Doom2.wad?" You shouldn't be doing anything to the IWAD. doom2.wad should just be there in the same folder as the GZDoom executable, and you should just drag and drop myhouse.pk3 onto said executable. As for playing on the Switch, a quick Google search tells me someone did port GZDoom for it on GBATemp, but I've never modded my Switch so I wouldn't know what to tell you about homebrew. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
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