SuperPIter_DoomWorldthe2nd Posted June 26, 2023 20 hours ago, CuppaBro said: doom2.wad should just be there in the same folder as the GZDoom executable Not really. ZDoom automatically detects the path to your iwad if you downloaded any of the Classic DOOM games on Steam or GOG, although it only works if the executable is on the same root directory (C:, E:, etc) as said Steam/GOG install. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
dustyhelpme Posted June 26, 2023 hey, just noticed something weird in the google drive (idk if anyone has seen). 2 of the photos had been "modified" at 1:39 AM on Mar 14. I thought it was weird. I took 4 of the images, 2 of them "modified" and tried to extract some exif data. I'm not sure if what i'm seeing is accurate (i'm not big into photos/exif/forensics/etc) but the images I looked at were all exported from adobe photoshop 2015 at either 2023:02:24 or, 2023:01:30. Just weird because those dates don't match up with what I know about this map 100%. I've never played doom, I just happened to see a 2hr video on this map and thought I'd share! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
SquareEngine Posted June 26, 2023 42 minutes ago, dustyhelpme said: hey, just noticed something weird in the google drive (idk if anyone has seen). 2 of the photos had been "modified" at 1:39 AM on Mar 14. I thought it was weird. I took 4 of the images, 2 of them "modified" and tried to extract some exif data. I'm not sure if what i'm seeing is accurate (i'm not big into photos/exif/forensics/etc) but the images I looked at were all exported from adobe photoshop 2015 at either 2023:02:24 or, 2023:01:30. Just weird because those dates don't match up with what I know about this map 100%. I've never played doom, I just happened to see a 2hr video on this map and thought I'd share! It does sound interesting. Which files exactly? I looked through the basic details of the files I downloaded (on May 25) and didn't spot any smoking guns. The photos that I most suspect are direct outputs from an image editing program are the two black and white sketches. The house looks like it has a filter applied and the dog always struck me as something that was made using an AI (or was at least initially photoshopped). They're also half the resolution of the blue key sketch which would help obscure details that could give away any fakery. I suppose it is also possible that these were printed directly onto the paper because they have subtle vertical streaks that are telltale artifacts of something that has been printed. There are machines, often found in schools for use by teachers, that will bind up paper together like that. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
SquareEngine Posted June 26, 2023 On 6/17/2023 at 6:18 PM, ShallowB said: I think there's a lot of parallels in how the story is told, too. House of Leaves is about a guy editing a book his dead friend wrote about a weird house, MyHouse is about a guy editing a Doom map his dead friend made about a weird house. Switch out some names and replace every instance of the word "book" with "Doom map" and I think a brief summary of House of Leaves becomes more or less indistinguishable from one of MyHouse. Still, there's enough differences there that I wouldn't call it an imitation, or a retelling, or a rip-off, as I've seen some people do. Seems like poor media literacy at best, and an outright refusal to engage with the work on anything beyond the surface level at worst. HoL is a book about the way society neglects the elderly and the disabled, the way we tend to ignore mental health issues and generational trauma (even our own), explores the way addictions of various kinds can ruin not just addicts' lives, but their families' as well. And it's a book about the book publishing industry itself. MyHouse has very different themes, exploring the relationship between nostalgia and regret, going in to gender identity and sexuality, the entire grieving process after suffering a loss; all things that never come up in House of Leaves. And it's about the Doom community and the evolution of Doom mapping, something that, being free, open-source, and community-driven instead of a for-profit corporate environment, is absolutely nothing like the HoL metacommentary on publishers. The fact that both stories use "weird house" as a narrative device doesn't mean they are the same story. Maybe a house is just a really good metaphor for a feeling of home, comfort, and belonging, and warping it into something predatory is a good way to convey a variety of complicated situations humans deal with in their lives. I'm glad you wrote this. I struggled with House of Leaves and put it down because I had the wrong expectations. I was expecting something more like MyHouse.wad (or Control [2019]) and it really isn't like either. I was frustrated about the interjections that had nothing to do with the spooky house because I thought that it was all about the spooky house. That sounds idiotic saying it now, but I came into it with the absolute wrong expectations. It is its own thing. I'm still too early into the book to give any decent commentary about it. I see MyHouse.wad as partially about how fickle memories are. Who here has not experienced an old memory being wrong? Of mixing up two places and realizing that they didn't happen at the same time or weren't in the same place? The impossible rooms on the 2nd floor of the house are a prime example of this. Neither appears at first or when the house is finally emptied and sold. At first a door on the right is there and inside is a room that could pass for being a real part of the house. It is as if it's really a part of another similar house with a similar layout, or a long-gone remodel, or a memory of a dream. A Pepsi was had there. Then a second door appears and the left one leads into a place with a completely different look. How could this ever be a part of the real house? It is as if it is from some other place or maybe some other time! Now the door on the right is gone and what's left looks like the end of a hallway. The end of the hallway itself is as if it is from some other house in some other place. That really speaks to me. That we can be so wrong about something that we were present for. That we can forget something and find ourselves realizing that what we remember could not have happened as we remembered it. That's not a weakness, it's a fact of life that we deal with. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
ShallowB Posted June 26, 2023 43 minutes ago, SquareEngine said: I see MyHouse.wad as partially about how fickle memories are. Who here has not experienced an old memory being wrong? Of mixing up two places and realizing that they didn't happen at the same time or weren't in the same place? The impossible rooms on the 2nd floor of the house are a prime example of this. I love this bit. The neat part is the pictures of the house in the photo album show that a room or hallway really was in that house, but whoever made the map must not have remembered it being there at all. Then when it does appear, it leads to two different rooms that may or may not be the same house and definitely don't fit the layout, so even if that part of the house is suddenly being "remembered," it still feels inaccurate and wrong. I've definitely had memories like that. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
dustyhelpme Posted June 26, 2023 13 hours ago, SquareEngine said: It does sound interesting. Which files exactly? I looked through the basic details of the files I downloaded (on May 25) and didn't spot any smoking guns. The photos that I most suspect are direct outputs from an image editing program are the two black and white sketches. The house looks like it has a filter applied and the dog always struck me as something that was made using an AI (or was at least initially photoshopped). They're also half the resolution of the blue key sketch which would help obscure details that could give away any fakery. I suppose it is also possible that these were printed directly onto the paper because they have subtle vertical streaks that are telltale artifacts of something that has been printed. There are machines, often found in schools for use by teachers, that will bind up paper together like that. I looked at these images. IMG_20220816_150024570 (The one with the 2 guys in the photo frame. Notice the size is 96KB while all others are much larger), IMG_20220816_233744312 (Thomas Allords Obiturary), and IMG_20220816_003137444 (The weird sketch, blue keycard thing) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Trar Posted June 27, 2023 On 6/15/2023 at 3:00 AM, Dee Legit said: My version is acting a bit weird Am I dumb if I hope someone makes a Family Guy parody of this mod? I really liked this mod by the way, that's not meant to be derogatory at all. It's incredible! 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
SquareEngine Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, dustyhelpme said: I looked at these images. IMG_20220816_150024570 (The one with the 2 guys in the photo frame. Notice the size is 96KB while all others are much larger), IMG_20220816_233744312 (Thomas Allords Obiturary), and IMG_20220816_003137444 (The weird sketch, blue keycard thing) I know nothing about file forensics but I can see what you mean plain as day when I opened up the files in Notepad++. (Regular ol' Notepad works but it will freeze for a short while as it loads "big" files.) It's stored in the file in plain text. This is pretty neat to see. Thanks for pointing it out. IMG_20220816_150024570.jpg (framed photo of Thomas Allord and Steven Nelson) motorola; moto g power Adobe Photoshop CC 2015 (Windows); 2023:02:23 20:24:13 2023:02:23 15:00:25 2023:02:23 15:00:25 Adobe_CM; Adobe http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/ <x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/" x:xmptk="Adobe XMP Core 5.6-c067 79.157747, 2015/03/30-23:40:42 "> <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#"> <rdf:Description rdf:about="" xmlns:xmp="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/" xmlns:photoshop="http://ns.adobe.com/photoshop/1.0/" xmlns:xmpMM="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/mm/" xmlns:stEvt="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/sType/ResourceEvent#" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmp:ModifyDate="2023-02-23T20:24:13-06:00" xmp:MetadataDate="2023-02-23T20:24:13-06:00" photoshop:DateCreated="2023-02-23T15:00:26.031148352" photoshop:ColorMode="3" photoshop:ICCProfile="sRGB IEC61966-2.1" xmpMM:DocumentID="adobe:docid:photoshop:477c519f-b3ea-11ed-b069-fb749474bb69" xmpMM:InstanceID="xmp.iid:b8ffa766-d286-c047-9456-1b35b00fd252" xmpMM:OriginalDocumentID="0AFDA84881B802F639F775F4081AD067" dc:format="image/jpeg"> <xmpMM:History> <rdf:Seq> <rdf:li stEvt:action="saved" stEvt:instanceID="xmp.iid:32140179-4be9-2c4c-9c94-b94600833f36" stEvt:when="2023-02-23T20:24:13-06:00" stEvt:softwareAgent="Adobe Photoshop CC 2015 (Windows)" stEvt:changed="/"/> <rdf:li stEvt:action="saved" stEvt:instanceID="xmp.iid:b8ffa766-d286-c047-9456-1b35b00fd252" stEvt:when="2023-02-23T20:24:13-06:00" stEvt:softwareAgent="Adobe Photoshop CC 2015 (Windows)" stEvt:changed="/"/> </rdf:Seq> </xmpMM:History> </rdf:Description> </rdf:RDF> </x:xmpmeta> I don't know quite what that is, but I'm 99% sure there isn't any personal info in there except for timestamps and what kind of phone or camera took the photo. The IDs are likely hashes that identify specific offline temporary files used by Photoshop. It hardly needs to be said, but everyone should know without a doubt that MyHouse and its premise is a work of fiction. Veddge is an artist and a storyteller who prepared a work for others to experience. What we're looking at is some under the hood info about how these files may have been made. IMG_20220816_233744312.jpg (obituary page of Thomas Allord) motorola; moto g power Adobe Photoshop CC 2015 (Windows); 2023:02:23 19:46:30 2023:02:22 23:35:21 2023:02:22 23:35:21 2023:02:23 Adobe_CM; Adobe http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/ <x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/" x:xmptk="Adobe XMP Core 5.6-c067 79.157747, 2015/03/30-23:40:42 "> <rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#"> <rdf:Description rdf:about="" xmlns:GCamera="http://ns.google.com/photos/1.0/camera/" xmlns:xmp="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/" xmlns:photoshop="http://ns.adobe.com/photoshop/1.0/" xmlns:xmpMM="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/mm/" xmlns:stEvt="http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/sType/ResourceEvent#" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" GCamera:SpecialTypeID="com.motorola.camera.SpecialType.BestShotType" GCamera:BurstID="53b1f9e4-3022-4289-990f-17fc642c5942" GCamera:BurstPrimary="1" xmp:ModifyDate="2023-02-23T19:46:30-06:00" xmp:MetadataDate="2023-02-23T19:46:30-06:00" photoshop:DateCreated="2023-02-22T23:35:22.58632704" photoshop:ColorMode="3" photoshop:ICCProfile="sRGB IEC61966-2.1" xmpMM:DocumentID="adobe:docid:photoshop:07b18ea6-b3e5-11ed-b069-fb749474bb69" xmpMM:InstanceID="xmp.iid:ea8e4252-6bc3-d74e-84b2-54695d45ac83" xmpMM:OriginalDocumentID="5B6B8E22E82CEB48139E0AA93A235C63" dc:format="image/jpeg"> <photoshop:DocumentAncestors> <rdf:Bag> <rdf:li>0CC4C8849D496E497B3D54AADE73A4BA</rdf:li> <rdf:li>5B6B8E22E82CEB48139E0AA93A235C63</rdf:li> <rdf:li>FA1463BA8E71EF7C2C93B0BA162A8D37</rdf:li> </rdf:Bag> </photoshop:DocumentAncestors> <xmpMM:History> <rdf:Seq> <rdf:li stEvt:action="saved" stEvt:instanceID="xmp.iid:af152953-ec7c-0646-a08f-dd434f9d3ab0" stEvt:when="2023-02-23T19:46:30-06:00" stEvt:softwareAgent="Adobe Photoshop CC 2015 (Windows)" stEvt:changed="/"/> <rdf:li stEvt:action="saved" stEvt:instanceID="xmp.iid:ea8e4252-6bc3-d74e-84b2-54695d45ac83" stEvt:when="2023-02-23T19:46:30-06:00" stEvt:softwareAgent="Adobe Photoshop CC 2015 (Windows)" stEvt:changed="/"/> </rdf:Seq> </xmpMM:History> </rdf:Description> </rdf:RDF> </x:xmpmeta> IMG_20220816_003137444.jpg (Blue key card drawing) 2023:02:24 00:31:37 http://ns.adobe.com/xap/1.0/ <x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/"><rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#"/></x:xmpmeta> The notable info here seems to be that some work on creating the pictures in the Google Drive happened on February 22nd and that Photoshop was used as part of that process. The fact that it was on a Windows computer or that a Motorolla cellphone or camera was used to take the photo is akin to trivia about what exact kinds of paintbrushes an artist used to paint a painting. It's important to understand that this is unintentional leftover info about how something was made and not lore about MyHouse. Edited June 27, 2023 by SquareEngine 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Mr Masker Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Trar said: Am I dumb if I hope someone makes a Family Guy parody of this mod? "Wow Lois, this reminds me of the time I was in the Brutalist House!" Edited June 27, 2023 by Mr Masker 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Dee Legit Posted June 27, 2023 15 hours ago, Trar said: Am I dumb if I hope someone makes a Family Guy parody of this mod? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Dee Legit Posted June 27, 2023 Okay so someone's probably brought this up already, but are we even sure the House in 'My House' is even real? Like just looking at the title picture, it's weird that this one house has what looks like and entire block to itself. I think maybe this is a photo of a park and the house has been photoshopped on top of it 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Dee Legit Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dee Legit said: are we even sure the House in 'My House' is even real? EDIT: Nevermind Edited June 27, 2023 by Dee Legit 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
OceanMadman Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Dee Legit said: Okay so someone's probably brought this up already, but are we even sure the House in 'My House' is even real? Like just looking at the title picture, it's weird that this one house has what looks like and entire block to itself. I think maybe this is a photo of a park and the house has been photoshopped on top of it Yes. The wife of the author made some tik toks showing the house 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Dee Legit Posted June 27, 2023 17 minutes ago, OceanMadman said: Yes. The wife of the author made some tik toks showing the house yeeeah, I feel kinda silly for thinking it was fake, maybe I just need to go to bed 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Major Arlene Posted June 27, 2023 Literally stop posting doxxing information you asshats 5 Quote Share this post Link to post
Redneckerz Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Dee Legit said: Okay so someone's probably brought this up already, but are we even sure the House in 'My House' is even real? Like just looking at the title picture, it's weird that this one house has what looks like and entire block to itself. I think maybe this is a photo of a park and the house has been photoshopped on top of it I understand that considering myhouse.wad doubts many players with all its tricks, but its another thing if you are going to doubt real-life pictures or end up distributing street information. That's not an entertaining doubt, that's stalking. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
Devalaous Posted June 27, 2023 This stuff is pretty much never going to stop occurring sadly. That hidden code did far far more damage than good. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
Dee Legit Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Major Arlene said: Literally stop posting doxxing information you asshats Yeah sorry. Edited June 27, 2023 by Dee Legit 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
kevansevans Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) It has been said already: Everything intended to be discovered has been confirmed, by the IRL identity of Veddge through Jabba, to be discovered. Any deeper meanings you try to find or impose are your own doing, and need to be taken with a shaker of salt known as "Death Of The Author". While the information of the house being a real place has been confirmed, it is my understanding that was not a consensual release of information at any point, and thus we must respect that. Edited June 27, 2023 by kevansevans 9 Quote Share this post Link to post
Liberation Posted June 27, 2023 Do I have to close this thread up? If you want to dissect MyHouse, go do it somewhere else. If you want to post about the RL house, again, go do that somewhere else. However if you want to talk about the actual map, you can do that here. This is the last time I will say this.. On 6/22/2023 at 8:09 PM, Liberation said: Folks, we keep having people posting information as to the "MyHouse" in RL and the people that live there. The DW mod team consider this doxxing and it won't be tolerated, we simply do not want that kind of information posted on DW. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post
strike Posted June 27, 2023 On 6/26/2023 at 4:05 AM, dustyhelpme said: hey, just noticed something weird in the google drive (idk if anyone has seen). 2 of the photos had been "modified" at 1:39 AM on Mar 14. I thought it was weird. I took 4 of the images, 2 of them "modified" and tried to extract some exif data. I'm not sure if what i'm seeing is accurate (i'm not big into photos/exif/forensics/etc) but the images I looked at were all exported from adobe photoshop 2015 at either 2023:02:24 or, 2023:01:30. Just weird because those dates don't match up with what I know about this map 100%. I've never played doom, I just happened to see a 2hr video on this map and thought I'd share! Which video if I may ask? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Cosmic79 Posted June 27, 2023 Can the "bad dog" you find in the brutalist area of the map be killed or is it invincible? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
OceanMadman Posted June 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Major Arlene said: Literally stop posting doxxing information you asshats Not really sure if this was directed to me or someone else, but just in case, is reminding the existence of some videos the wife of the author recorded most likely with his consense considered doxxing...? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, strike said: Which video if I may ask? You may not. 2 hours ago, Liberation said: If you want to post about the RL house, again, go do that somewhere else. 5 minutes ago, OceanMadman said: Not really sure if this was directed to me or someone else, but just in case, is reminding the existence of some videos the wife of the author recorded most likely with his consense considered doxxing...? The author wanted anonymity; that's why they presented the fake personal of Steve Nelson (who is not married as far as we can tell) instead of their real identity. Going in and saying "the real author's wife has a video of the real author's house" is stalking. Edited June 27, 2023 by Gez 3 Quote Share this post Link to post
Devalaous Posted June 27, 2023 17 minutes ago, Cosmic79 said: Can the "bad dog" you find in the brutalist area of the map be killed or is it invincible? It can be killed, but you really wont want to. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
OceanMadman Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Gez said: The author wanted anonymity; that's why they presented the fake personal of Steve Nelson (who is not married as far as we can tell) instead of their real identity. Going in and saying "the real author's wife has a video of the real author's house" is stalking. I always thought making up all the pictures with his friend as well as the story and other stuff were just part of the plot of the wad, not only because he wanted to stay anonymous, but saying something his wife did isn't revealing his true identity anyway, I'm just saying the house does exist. Also, the wife of the author made those videos with the intention of showing how she really lived in the house from the wad, not to just show how beautiful it was and I just came across with it by accident. If she wants people to know she lives in that house is it so bad to say so? And just to clarify, I didn't come across those tik toks by doing hacker stuff and magically finding the right house, (which I don't remotely know where it's located) I just found some post someone else made in reddit about it, so I don't think I'm neither a stalker or a doxxer. But hey, if the real person behind Veddge does feel any bother for me to post that stuff and is reading this, I sincerely apologize, and anyway I won't be doing it again any time soon because I don't feel like having arguments with random people here. Edited June 28, 2023 by OceanMadman 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Ozcar Posted June 27, 2023 Mfw when someone doxxing over wad for almost 30 years old fps games. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Matt Eldrydge Posted June 28, 2023 I started playing this on my channel the other day and it's absolutely incredible. Got the first "ending" in one sitting and now I could use a few tips. I already know there's something to do with the sinks and mirrors, but that's about it. Any things I should keep in mind next time I play it? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
Devalaous Posted June 28, 2023 28 minutes ago, Matt Eldrydge said: Any things I should keep in mind next time I play it? Be very observant of your surroundings, and pay close attention to the journal that comes with the pk3. If in a bind, trying to input the classic cheats will display hints. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
ShallowB Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Matt Eldrydge said: I already know there's something to do with the sinks and mirrors, but that's about it. Any things I should keep in mind next time I play it? Honestly, I went into my second playthrough with the same thought... "there's gotta be something to those sinks and mirrors" and you'd be surprised how far that gets you. If you get stuck, you could try some common Doom cheats. Most of them give hints instead. Edited June 28, 2023 by ShallowB 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
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