What is the Hardest Map...

[Dreamskull]

...that doesnt utilize a BFG in its arsenal?

Edited June 17, 2023 by Dreamskull
Grammar

[Andromeda]

Darkgate E1M8.

[kalensar]

Okuplok is pretty up there. 

[Geniraul]

Revenant Bus by @Revenant100 is in fact a very good candidate.

 

 

Edited June 26, 2023 by Geniraul

[tatsu91]

5 hours ago, Geniraul said:

Revenant Bus by @Revenant100 is in fact a very good candidate.

 

 

This is up their because of the required attention and nature of it

[roadworx]

it's certainly not the hardest, but scythe 2's map27 on uv is hard af and doesn't have a bfg

[Yousuf Anik]

To me, Ultimate Doom E4M1 is one of those hardest map in UV (is even harder in Nightmare). The map might look very little (perhaps the smallest in Doom 1, I'm not sure) but it won't let you come out alive so easily because of course it doesn't have a BFG and the worst part is there is no health too.

Edited July 16, 2023 by Yousuf Anik

[RonLivingston]

Fear from Scythe, too many cyberdemons 

and Dark Dome by alien vendetta which is considered a slaughtermap, slaughtermaps are brutal to be exact

[Captain POLAND]

On 6/19/2023 at 6:30 AM, kalensar said:

Okuplok is pretty up there. 

There is a BFG in Okuplok.

 

 

[Red Recluse]

Profane Promiseland coming to this better biggest sunder religion.

[pcorf]

On 6/20/2023 at 2:24 AM, Yousuf Anik said:

To me, Ultimate Doom E4M1 is one of those hardest map in UV (is even harder in Nightmare). It of course doesn't have a BFG and... no health too.

 

The health was stolen on UV. But you can beat it, just focus on the shotgunners and save often.

[Yousuf Anik]

1 hour ago, pcorf said:

 

The health was stolen on UV. But you can beat it, just focus on the shotgunners and save often.

Yeah, trying to save health when killing the initial shotgunners is very important here. I usually play this map very slowly.

[Bri0che]

On 6/19/2023 at 6:24 PM, Yousuf Anik said:

To me, Ultimate Doom E4M1 is one of those hardest map in UV (is even harder in Nightmare). It of course doesn't have a BFG and... no health too.

 

Man you are so right… I find that some Sunlust maps are easier than this xd 

[Yousuf Anik]

1 hour ago, Bri0che said:

 

Man you are so right… I find that some Sunlust maps are easier than this xd 

So true!

[Red Recluse]

Lately I have been devoting a lot of days hell map 8 Legendary Cyberdemon from Tarachillax wad.Damn bless me win that nightmare!

[MrGigglefingers]

wow.wad

[CrazyDoomguy]

2 hours ago, MrGigglefingers said:

wow.wad

wow is easy

[Captain POLAND]

On 7/25/2023 at 5:09 PM, CrazyDoomguy said:

wow is easy

 

I'm pretty sure that it has no exit, which technically makes it impossible to beat.

 

 

[CrazyDoomguy]

34 minutes ago, Captain POLAND said:

 

I'm pretty sure that it has no exit, which technically makes it impossible to beat.

 

 

Note that since the original wow.wad contains no exit, speedruns use a modified version (created by Grazza), called wow_x.wad, which moves the map to the E2M8 slot so that the cyberdemon's death triggers the level's end

Edited July 27, 2023 by CrazyDoomguy

[Captain POLAND]

But the original version is still unbeatable

 

 

[EPICALLL]

For me, this one has to go to...

Scythe II - MAP26: Death

(spoilered to avoid pissing off people who have yet to play through the WAD)

Spoiler

This map is just... Cruel.

I have never played a map as inheritly balls-to-the-walls badshit insane as this. It starts with you being blocked by Hell Knights, for Christ's sake! And don't think you can get off easy with continuous play, either. The map forces you to Pistol Start, so say goodbye the the BFG you just saved up ammo for. All this map has for you is a chaingun and super shotgun. You get NOTHING else, so infighting is a must. Don't even get me started on the Revenants and Arch-Viles, they can't help themselves but to block you and stand directly where they are at their least convenient, and most lethal. I have gargantuant respect for anyone who got 100% on this map, as it is an absolute monster to slay, and even without said defiance in the face of impossible odds, this map is still easily one of the hardest I have ever played, not to mention just how evil the map is to begin with, even if the player had a BFG9000, there would still be absolutely no chance of first-time survival. With that being said, this map looks stunning, and I greatly appreciate it's dedication to it's core intentions.

 

Grade: A

Difficulty: X

 

[Dreamskull]

Thankye much guys. I very much appreciate these recommendations.

[DrRock]

#ready for deletion#

 

edit:overlookedthe non-BFG bit of the OP and posted a BFG-centric map, stupid me

Edited August 7, 2023 by DrRock
oversaw the BFG-bit in the OP, posted a map that is all about the BFG

[vdgg]

Redundancy MAP32, Holy crap! I just discovered it yesterday. Every fight seems barely doable, but to pull it off without saves... HOW?! Haha. Also, the dark maze with revenants and chaingunners is beautiful