ideas for a map 30 gimmick

[iiYoNa]

I'm a new mapper and I'm looking for ideas for a map 30 gimmick involving telefragging monsters. I feel like telefrag tag has been used in other wads, in maps other than map 30. I'm not against telefrag tag, but I wanted to ask the doom community for suggestions on maybe something more interesting. also I'm working in limit-removing doom 2 and i want to avoid using the icon of sin spawners because it would break how I want the map progression to work.

[Hebonky]

You could make it look like normal icon of sin, but then have you shooting a rocket into the icon drop the walls, and reveal the hardest map you could make, you now have to find the 'real' icon.

[iiYoNa]

49 minutes ago, Hebonky said:

You could make it look like normal icon of sin, but then have you shooting a rocket into the icon drop the walls

like with a keen or something?

[Hebonky]

yeah and, replace the keen noises with the icon's noises to throw off the player

[DRON12261]

8 hours ago, iiYoNa said:

I'm a new mapper and I'm looking for ideas for a map 30 gimmick involving telefragging monsters. I feel like telefrag tag has been used in other wads, in maps other than map 30. I'm not against telefrag tag, but I wanted to ask the doom community for suggestions on maybe something more interesting. also I'm working in limit-removing doom 2 and i want to avoid using the icon of sin spawners because it would break how I want the map progression to work.

In general, I will say only one thing, the usual icon of sin with the constant spawning of monsters and where you have to jump with a rocket to shoot in the head - one of the most stuffy and unpleasant bosses in general shooters.
 

I just like the idea of a good tough hard (but fair, no need to strangle the player) arena in MAP30, which will be exactly designed epically, as a grand finale. And the very icon just nominally put at the end and let player quietly without spavners to kill it, as the "cherry on the cake" and the final point in the passage of the megawad.
 

The only more or less interesting battle with the icon in my memory was only in TNT Revilution.
 

So good luck with that one.

Edited June 27, 2023 by DRON12261

[iiYoNa]

6 hours ago, DRON12261 said:

In general, I will say only one thing, the usual icon of sin with the constant spawning of monsters and where you have to jump with a rocket to shoot in the head - one of the most stuffy and unpleasant bosses in general shooters.

yeah. I'm trying to avoid using the spawners anyways. I was thinking something to do with the special map 30 flag that monsters can telefrag other monsters and the player.

[BeachThunder]

Okay, but what if you were the one spawning monsters? What if you shoot out cubes that spawn friendly cyberdemons who then shoot rockets at the Icon of Sin.

[iiYoNa]

5 minutes ago, BeachThunder said:

Okay, but what if you were the one spawning monsters? What if you shoot out cubes that spawn friendly cyberdemons who then shoot rockets at the Icon of Sin.

if only.