Project Make STARTAN Look Not So Default Again [v1.01]

[bsharp]

Salutations, Doomworld!
Here's a little texture set I've been working on for the past few days. It's not fully finished yet, so expect edits to come.
If you find any bugs (and better yet, fixes for them,) please don't hesitate to drop a report down in the replies. I'll do my best to fix it.

[flavor text]
From the title of this post, you'll be correct to assume that this is a texture pack about the belovedly default wall texture STARTAN2. An inconic one-off member of the STAR texture series, its appearances throughout the classic Doom games have helped set the standard for any techbase. I, for one, am a devout STARTAN2 newgen. And I'm sick of people calling it "default".
How dare they have the audacity to slander such a beautiful and careful arrangement of pixels as "default"? Have you any idea how perfect it is? I could go for hours on end about the color theory behind it, the golden ratio, and how it singlehandedly predicted the downfall of humanity, and you call it "default"? Curse you, Doom Builder. And your descendants.
To combat the disgraceful behavior the Doom Builder family shows on a daily basis, I have created a set of textures focused on bringing back the glory of STARTAN2. It's about time someone makes a texture set like this. Unless it's been made before. In which case...screw it, have another!

[cast]
Contains edits of STARTAN2, FLAT14, TANROCK8, ZIMMER2, STEP1, SUPPORT3, and FIREBLU.

[what's in it?]
The texture set contains—as of rc1—the following:

• 53 new textures, 42 of which are STARTAN edits
• 11 new flats, all of which contain STARTAN

The zip file contains said texture set and a texture showcase wad, compatible with vanilla doom. (tested on PrBoom+, GZDoom, and DSDA-Doom)
It uncompresses to a size of under 750kb.
This is only compatible with the Boom map format or more advanced. It does not work properly with vanilla Doom.

[where's the file?]
Below.

[can i see what it looks like?]
Absolutely.
 

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[what'd you do?]
Here's the changelog:

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v1.01:

• i hate the boom switches lump. it works now (:

v1.0:

• added slightly duller flats, may be dulled further in future
• added FIRETAN :)
• added SUPPORT3 edits for utility, in widths 16 and 32
• updated showcase.wad to show more textures
• released!

rc1 hotfix_1:

• fixed flats appearing in TEXTURE1
• prboom+ and dsda-doom now work, rely on gzdoom no longer
• removed ALLBLACK and F_ALLBLK for now
• updated showcase wad
• STTNWARN tiles correctly now
• it works

rc1:

• uploaded it

[any last words?]
Please keep the texture set updated in your maps. Older versions (especially the first) tend to be worse.
New textures are probably on the way!


Thank you plenty for reading.
Valedictions!

 

 

 

 

MSTLNSDA_v1_01.zip

Edited September 6, 2023 by bsharp
version 1.01

[rouge_means_red]

We could make a CP out of this 🤔

[Hebonky]

The startan zone.

[rouge_means_red]

I'm getting a few errors related to the flats

 

In UDB: "Patch lump "all_startan.wad\F_STTN1" data format could not be read, while loading texture "F_STTN1". Does this lump contain valid picture data at all?"

 

Flats appear as a circle with an X in the wall texture selection

 

DSDA and CrispyDoom give me this error: "R_InitTextures: 19 errors"

 

Edit: and STTNWARN doesn't tile correctly

 

Also the flats would look better with a less visible light source. Doom flats usually have very faint directional light, or none at all

Edited August 4, 2023 by rouge_means_red

[bsharp]

First three are all errors I’m trying to fix, but I will take on your advice with the flats and STTNWARN. Thanks for letting me know!

[Pechudin]

STARMARB

 

Maybe convert all textures to STARTAN style. STARBLU.

[bsharp]

I'm really thinking of just doing a total texture conversion, but that'll be a megaton of work. STARBLU is a stellar idea though.

[in the meantime, i'll be uploading a hotfix to fix the major errors @rouge_means_red pointed out. new textures and fixes for existing ones are underway.]

[bsharp]

11 hours ago, rouge_means_red said:

I'm getting a few errors related to the flats

 

In UDB: "Patch lump "all_startan.wad\F_STTN1" data format could not be read, while loading texture "F_STTN1". Does this lump contain valid picture data at all?"

 

Flats appear as a circle with an X in the wall texture selection

 

DSDA and CrispyDoom give me this error: "R_InitTextures: 19 errors"

 

Edit: and STTNWARN doesn't tile correctly

Also the flats would look better with a less visible light source. Doom flats usually have very faint directional light, or none at all

All of the errors are fixed now. I mistakenly put the flats into TEXTURE1, when they didn't have to be.
On the last line: I see what you mean; the flats were based off of cc4-tex's STAR flats, which look very similar. I'll be adjusting the flats to be more versatile soon!
Please be sure to update the resource in UDB to the fixed version, uploaded onto the OP now.

Apologies for the inconvenience! ^^'

[rouge_means_red]

Now for some reason DSDA Doom gets totally messed up

 

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But it works fine in GZDoom, CrispyDoom and PrBoom+

[bsharp]

Strange. Just made a small test map, and while the flats work fine, the wall textures are just HOMs on DSDA-Doom. Considering it works on other ports (and DSDA-Doom's cousin PrBoom+) I'd be led to think this the fault of the port, but it's likely I may have done something wrong when compiling the pack.
I'll get back once I find a fix.

[bsharp]

1 hour ago, rouge_means_red said:

Now for some reason DSDA Doom gets totally messed up

I'm very sorry if I'm disturbing you, but have you downloaded the latest hotfix? The one currently on the OP seems to work fine for me with DSDA.

[rouge_means_red]

I figured it out, it's because I was using Doom 2 map format instead of Boom

[Hebonky]

I think a texture like this would be great to have: (This was made using some line finagling, makes the map run worse)

 

I also think that the floor flats are a bit too bright, don't look too great imo

 

I am working on a map using this pack, and it's pretty fun so far.

 

[bsharp]

Thanks a lot for using the textures! I’m honored.
 

3 hours ago, Hebonky said:

I think a texture like this would be great to have:

I also think that the floor flats are a bit too bright, don't look too great imo

Adding supports is a great idea! I’ll put some in

I am starting work on a darker set of flats, so those will be put out sometime.

[bsharp]

1.0's out! added extra support textures for utility, FIRETAN, and slightly duller versions of the previous flats.

[MObreck]

Quite nice. I'll include these in the MEDB based community project I will be setting up tommorrow.

[bsharp]

8 hours ago, MObreck said:

Quite nice. I'll include these in the MEDB based community project I will be setting up tommorrow.

thanks a whole lot for including the textures! i'm very grateful :D
if it matters, you've got the greenest greenlight my money can buy; spread the message

[MObreck]

Alright, started up the community project:

 

[No-Man Baugh]

Love this project! am using it for a "map" I'm making for the Box Doom CP, but I noticed when using SW1F14 that it doesn't change to SW2F14 nor does it make a sound like how switches normally do

 

here's the map I made for it incase you want to troubleshoot it for yourself:

SLOT52-aBridgetooTan.zip

[bsharp]

2 hours ago, No-Man Baugh said:

it doesn't change to SW2F14 nor does it make a sound like how switches normally do

k so turns out the boom switches lump deleted itself due to, like, untyped switch rows, but it's fixed now! sorry for the inconvenience; please download version 1.01, where the switches work now.

thanks for using the pack man :D

MSTLNSDA_v1_01.zip

[No-Man Baugh]

11 hours ago, bsharp said:

k so turns out the boom switches lump deleted itself due to, like, untyped switch rows, but it's fixed now! sorry for the inconvenience; please download version 1.01, where the switches work now.

thanks for using the pack man :D

MSTLNSDA_v1_01.zip

THANK YOU!!!! that was a dang quick fix

[DoomGappy]

Can I request some textures? How about some borders for nukage pits and other liquids like the marble ones from original doom, and also some more fitting flats? I really liked the cube ones, I think they'd look good on the floor.  Here is a 256x256 since I'm in the Box Doom mood.

 

startan room.7z

 

Edit: Yeah, just saw they are already there. For some reason they didn't load before. Thanks for this, OP!

Edited September 7, 2023 by jo2ukegappy

[MObreck]

Alright, I put a fair amount of usage of these textures in the map I contributed to my community project:

 

I just got to playtest the medium difficulty and then I should be releasing the first draft of my map tomorrow. But for now I must sleep.

[DoomGappy]

On 10/1/2023 at 6:32 AM, MObreck said:

Alright, I put a fair amount of usage of these textures in the map I contributed to my community project:

 

I just got to playtest the medium difficulty and then I should be releasing the first draft of my map tomorrow. But for now I must sleep.

Has this been released? I suddenly remembered about this pack and wanted to see what people had done with it. I suck at designing techbases so maybe I could learn something.