Stroggman Posted August 27, 2023 When I started using a PC back in '92 the documentation refered to it as "erase" and since the mid to late 90's it's been referred to it as "delete", so I wonder what was with this change in the documentation? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post
riktoi Posted August 27, 2023 Modern computers rarely "erase" data anymore (overwriting that data with gibberish, to allow it to be reused and impossible or very difficult to restore). Deleting is what is more common (simply removing a file from view; the data remains, but the system is free to reuse it for something else). I am not technically inclined enough to really tell you why this is the case, I can only guess that it is to allow easier data recovery and to make it harder to truly erase files. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Stroggman Posted August 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, riktoi said: Modern computers rarely "erase" data anymore (overwriting that data with gibberish, to allow it to be reused and impossible or very difficult to restore). Deleting is what is more common (simply removing a file from view; the data remains, but the system is free to reuse it for something else). I am not technically inclined enough to really tell you why this is the case, I can only guess that it is to allow easier data recovery and to make it harder to truly erase files. Hmm, quite interesting and you won't see "erase" in the context menu 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Individualised Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, riktoi said: Modern computers rarely "erase" data anymore (overwriting that data with gibberish, to allow it to be reused and impossible or very difficult to restore). Deleting is what is more common (simply removing a file from view; the data remains, but the system is free to reuse it for something else). I am not technically inclined enough to really tell you why this is the case, I can only guess that it is to allow easier data recovery and to make it harder to truly erase files. This isn't really accurate. And regardless I think OP is referring to the use of the term "erase" for what we would now call "delete". It comes down to the fact that a lot of these terms were still relatively new at that time and were subject to dialectal influence as well. I don't know where OP is from, but some early British home computers used the term "rub out" instead of "delete", for the key we would know now as backspace. Both "rub out" and "erase" are skeuomorphs(?) for deleting digital data, same with a lot of terms we still use such as files and folders. Edited August 27, 2023 by Individualised 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
RHhe82 Posted August 27, 2023 I distinctly remember from some version of MS-DOS I used in the very early 90s had the erase command -- I think. Or at least it appeared in some documentation, even though I only ever used del as in delete. Although I may now confuse MS-DOS with MSX-DOS, but there I didn't have a hard drive, so file system commands didn't have that much use. So can't be sure. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Doomy__Doom Posted August 27, 2023 25 minutes ago, RHhe82 said: I distinctly remember from some version of MS-DOS I used in the very early 90s had the erase command -- I think. Or at least it appeared in some documentation, even though I only ever used del as in delete. Although I may now confuse MS-DOS with MSX-DOS, but there I didn't have a hard drive, so file system commands didn't have that much use. So can't be sure. I happen to still have a printed MS-DOS manual from 1987 in good condition, so I checked - erase is a second name for del, and the manual pretty much exclusively uses the term "delete" throughout the page in descriptions. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
roadworx Posted August 27, 2023 maybe the term erase was a regional thing? i work with an old computer fairly often and delete is a term commonly used in documentation and commands 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
LadyMistDragon Posted August 27, 2023 Ask that question and you'll be surprised what ends up erased :P) 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
maxmanium Posted August 27, 2023 Looks like someone just watched this video for the first time: 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
stphrz Posted August 28, 2023 The term "erase" needed to be reserved for things like history, people and human memory. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Major Arlene Posted August 28, 2023 5 hours ago, stphrz said: The term "erase" needed to be reserved for things like history, people and human memory. false. it should be reserved to refer to an eraser and nothing else. /s 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Stroggman Posted August 28, 2023 22 hours ago, Doomy__Doom said: I happen to still have a printed MS-DOS manual from 1987 in good condition, so I checked - erase is a second name for del, and the manual pretty much exclusively uses the term "delete" throughout the page in descriptions. I like old computer documentation, quite interesting 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Stroggman Posted August 28, 2023 12 hours ago, Major Arlene said: false. it should be reserved to refer to an eraser and nothing else. /s Agreed! 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
aloysiusfreeman Posted August 28, 2023 tbf, Apple refers to "Erase all contents and settings" in their products now. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
Azuris Posted August 30, 2023 Sometimes it just depends on the Company, i am especially often confused by Terms used on mobile devices, Stuff as "Delete all Tabs". My UEFI says "Save and Set Back", so that i have to rethink every Time if it will reset the Options i've took :> Restart, Reboot, Reset System, there would be many Synonyms that would make it clear. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
gibfrag Posted August 30, 2023 It’s a shame. If it was the erase key, I could say “You have just been erased.” Every. Single. Time. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Tetzlaff Posted September 1, 2023 What if that Schwarzenegger movie with the railguns would be called Deleter? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted September 1, 2023 Don't forget the David Lynch classic, Deleterhead! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post
Quasar Posted September 10, 2023 "Erase" makes me think of ancient tape drives. Or not so ancient ones because some backup systems still use those. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post
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