10 Sectors demos [-complevel 9]

Andrea Rovenski · September 7, 2023

oh, very cool! thank you maribo!

alien111 · September 9, 2023

Hello.

Is the record from map01 made by depr4vity correct? I think it's made in cl2

Dogmachine · September 9, 2023

45 minutes ago, alien111 said:

Hello.

Is the record from map01 made by depr4vity correct? I think it's made in cl2

Yes, 10 Sectors is an old wad, so some of the maps, including map 1, do not use any Boom- specific features, allowing complevel 2 to be used. The same would not be true for a wad such as Sunlust, for instance.

alien111 · September 9, 2023

Oki, thx!

BTW.
Map01 UV MAX 20.37

10s01-20.zip

4shockblast · September 9, 2023

1 hour ago, alien111 said:

Hello.

Is the record from map01 made by depr4vity correct? I think it's made in cl2

You should use Boom for 10sector.

As for dep's run, it's debatable if it should be marked incompatible. With older WADs especially, Boom and MBF requirement were often used as shorthand for the map having crossed too many limits, leading it to be only playable in source ports of the era (pure limit-removing source ports weren't really a thing, nor were complevels). So, WADs from around the release of Boom (1998 to mid-2000s) are especially affected by this, and to some extent more recent WADs, since not every map author is familiar with complevels and stuff like that even today.

Practically, this means that every WAD of that era requires extra scrutiny for what runs are valid on it, even if it explicitly specifies Boom or MBF in the txt. That said, I don't recall any discussion of 10sector, and I think the primary cl across the board for 10sector is 9, so I'm not sure if cl2 is ever valid for 10sector. Many of the maps have cl2 or vanilla runs, though, so I would say it's a good candidate for another of these cases where both 2 and 9 may be acceptable. Given Boom is predominant on the board, though, I still think you should use Boom for it primarily, and it's entirely possible that cl2 runs for this WAD are marked incompatible at some point in the future.

Edited September 9, 2023 by 4shockblast

alien111 · September 9, 2023

3 hours ago, 4shockblast said:

You should use Boom for 10sector.

As for dep's run, it's debatable if it should be marked incompatible. With older WADs especially, Boom and MBF requirement were often used as shorthand for the map having crossed too many limits, leading it to be only playable in source ports of the era (pure limit-removing source ports weren't really a thing, nor were complevels). So, WADs from around the release of Boom (1998 to mid-2000s) are especially affected by this, and to some extent more recent WADs, since not every map author is familiar with complevels and stuff like that even today.

Practically, this means that every WAD of that era requires extra scrutiny for what runs are valid on it, even if it explicitly specifies Boom or MBF in the txt. That said, I don't recall any discussion of 10sector, and I think the primary cl across the board for 10sector is 9, so I'm not sure if cl2 is ever valid for 10sector. Many of the maps have cl2 or vanilla runs, though, so I would say it's a good candidate for another of these cases where both 2 and 9 may be acceptable. Given Boom is predominant on the board, though, I still think you should use Boom for it primarily, and it's entirely possible that cl2 runs for this WAD are marked incompatible at some point in the future.

Thank you for your extensive answer. I'm just starting this pack but I'm playing on cl9 so there's no doubt, also in the future :)

alien111 · September 10, 2023

UV-MAX Map 02 1:17.66

10s02-117.zip

Andrea Rovenski · September 10, 2023

map02 max 1:16 :) https://youtu.be/hWinBERRY-c (nice url)

10s02-116.zip

alien111 · September 10, 2023

Good job! See You tomorrow :D

alien111 · September 12, 2023

Map 02 - UV MAX - 1:16.09

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-YDnFIf544

It took me 1450 attempts and actually I'm not entirely satisfied because I had one run at about 1:11 but I died on the last mancubus ^^

How many tries do you need to beat this Adnrea? 5, 10? :D

10s02-116.zip

Andrea Rovenski · September 12, 2023

map02 max 1:12 https://youtu.be/K8X4PWUPHGY

took me a little more than 10 sadly :D

10s02-112.zip

alien111 · September 12, 2023

Good job. I'm giving up because it's impossible for me :D Maybe I'll come back to it, but for now I'm going to another map ^^

trashgarbage · October 12, 2023

Easily one of my favourite WADs of its era, loved it casually and I still find myself thinking how cool some of the levels are despite the constraint imposed and how nice some of them manage to look.

Anyway, attaching:

Map11 UV Max and NoMo

Map13 UV Speed and NoMo

Map14 UV Speed and NoMo

Map19 UV Speed, Pacifist and NoMo

Map21 UV Max and NoMo

Map24 UV Speed and NoMo

Map25 UV Max and NoMo

Map31 NoMo

trashgarbage · October 16, 2023

More demos :]

Map04 NoMo

Map05 UV Speed and NoMo

Map06 UV Max and NoMo

Map22 UV Speed and NoMo

Map23 NoMo

Map26 NoMo

trashgarbage · October 17, 2023

I did not expect to get this tonight otherwise I would have just waited to post them all together, oops.

Map31 "Marle - The Horrible Bitchgoddess" UV Max in 9m40. Five years ago I would have said there's no way I could max a map like that without saves, now here I am somehow beating vdgg's time by over two minutes. Anyway still far from a perfect run but I'm happy with it :]

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