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What are your mild and major headcanons about doom 1 and 2 about anything?


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1 hour ago, DoomPlayer00 said:

It is part of possession dress code to dye your hair green.

 

"You don't look dead enough! Get back to hair and makeup!"

 

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Revenants are created from human corpses, not demons.

 

My reasoning for this is that if they were created from dead demons, there'd be more variety in their appearance. They wouldn't only take the shape of a human skeleton - we'd have imp revenants, pinky revenants, Hell noble revenants. But you never see any non-humanoid demons repurposed after death. So the only logical conclusion is that the demons use humans as the basis upon which they build the revenants. So they're more like the zombies but with armor and shoulder-mounted rocket launchers wired into them by some magical means.

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Those red things in the cyberdemon's belly are cables and wires;

All the monsters in the monster closets are very bored while they wait for Doomguy;

Barons of Hell have massive schlongs;

The cacodemon inhales air through one of its back holes and exhales through the other, creating jet thrust.

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Doomguy never died at the end of E1. The demons shredded him to the point of near death. As he eventually came to, he found another teleporter, and eventually found himself on E2 after patching himself up.

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52 minutes ago, Astar said:

Those red things in the cyberdemon's belly are cables and wires;

All the monsters in the monster closets are very bored while they wait for Doomguy;

Barons of Hell have massive schlongs;

The cacodemon inhales air through one of its back holes and exhales through the other, creating jet thrust.

I can imagine shotgunners and imps leaning on the walls, askin' and sayin' stuff like "when he's gonna get here yet?" or "How the hell did we get inside here" or "Who builds a place with a weird closet everywhere"

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44 minutes ago, Johnny Cruelty said:

closet everywhere

Which reminds me: Monsters in Monster Closets are gay, but are too afraid to share their identity with the world.

Edited by Guff dotD

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Arch-viles have no definable gender (by current standards at leasT) and reproduce through some kind of unisexual mating thing.

 

Phobos Lab is misnamed

 

Mill from TNT is a sawmill on the world its from.

 

Icarus takes place not long after TNT.

 

Monsters aren't hurt by slime because it's really less about UAC's sloppy adherence to OSHA and more that it's another vehicle for demonic corruption.

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18 hours ago, LadyMistDragon said:

Arch-viles have no definable gender (by current standards at leasT) and reproduce through some kind of unisexual mating thing.

Nah, i think that's the case with every monster (at least for classic doom), with the exception of the zombies, The SpiderDemon, the Icon,and maybe the Cyberdemon. 

Edited by DankMetal

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15 hours ago, LadyMistDragon said:

Arch-viles have no definable gender (by current standards at leasT) and reproduce through some kind of unisexual mating thing.

nonbinary archviles lets fucking goooooooo

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1 minute ago, OliveTree said:

it kind of is already tbh

GRRR THOSE SILLY LIVERALS! MAKING THE DEMONS GAY!

I SHALL GO TO JOHN LIBERAL'S LIBERAL HQ AND TELL THAT SILLY GOOSE WHOSE WHO!

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19 minutes ago, Johnny Cruelty said:

GRRR THOSE SILLY LIVERALS! MAKING THE DEMONS GAY!

I SHALL GO TO JOHN LIBERAL'S LIBERAL HQ AND TELL THAT SILLY GOOSE WHOSE WHO!

woa this kind of rhymes

i shall go to john liberals liberal h.q.
and tell that silly goose who's who

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  • 2 weeks later...

Another headcanon that I don't think I've ever discussed, you know the whole DoomGuy assaulting his commander officer for ordering him to shoot at unnarmed civilians thing? I kinda have a sorta headcanon that the commander officer is, in fact, a long descendant of the Grosse family, which by whatever means, be it fleeing to South America, or an Operation Paperclip-esque plot, had his ancestors (some remaining non-military perhaps or just not killed by BJ Grosse family members) survive WW2 where they eventually had their bloodline go back to America and enlist in the military there instead, idk I kinda like these "fate" driven plots at times, so in a way it would be fate putting the Blazkowicks and Grosse families at odds with eachother again and kickstarting a new adventure for a Blazkowicks family member.
(I don't know that much about Wolfenstein lore so if this doesn't make sense tho then sorry lmfao)

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The Demons evolve based on their past invasions , few examples

Imps - Due to their slow movement they are incredibly easy to gun down, eventually they evolve to be more mobile eventually becoming nimble but slightly weaker than before.

Pinkies - Strong, but easy to kill by pumping rockets or super shotgunning em, so they gained armor plating in the front, invulnerable to most bullet attacks, but has a small weakness at the back

Barons And Hell Knights - Similar to the imp, more nimble, and also stronger, much more aggressive than the slower fellows they once were

 

Doom 64 demons are mutated off shoots

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Every WAD ever made by anyone is canon and took place between 64 and 2016. Doom Guy has been stuck dimension hopping like some kind of Moorcockian Eternal Champion. 

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My headcanon is that the reason the Hellknights look different in DOOM 3 and onwards is because there was so many damn Hellknights in DOOM 64 that they almost just went extinct, so hell made NEW Hellknights to replace the old ones. This also explains why the Gladiator from DOOM Eternal looks like an OG Hellknight, it's because he's the last of his kind! After all, the famous "Merciless Extermination" line in the DOOM 64 manual wasn't just for show! *wink*

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You never actually go to hell in TNT.

 

The text screens don't say anything about going to hell, so I like to think maps 25-30 are just another part of Io that the demons have invaded and corrupted. Mount Pain looks especially like a corrupted human structure near one of Io's volcanoes.

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None of Final Doom's 2 chapters happened and it is just Doomguy having warped PTSD flashbacks.

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In Episode 1, Phobos has been terraformed, or at least the part of it where the game takes place is enclosed within a climate-controlled dome. This is why there are can be so many open windows leading outside, the player with exposed skin doesn't die immediately upon exposure, the sky is white with clouds and there are mountains with visible vegetation, and sound can travel outside despite the lack of an atmosphere.

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My personal headcanon is based on the story of the first doom, in that doom guy died at the end of episode one and that afterwards, despite his best efforts, hell never played fair. All the victories, just perpetuity in disguise. That is because he never left hell: everything that has come afterward, the 2(3) following episodes of doom, doom 2, final doom, all of the wads, all the repeated deaths just to survive an area, only to be thrust into the next with no hope of reprieve, have all just been to torment a very dead doomguy. All with the knowledge that at any time, if he is doing too good, or maybe just because the mapper thought it'd be funny, hell can send him back to the end of e1m8.

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On 9/10/2023 at 6:54 AM, Jayextee said:

It's all canon.

DOOM, DOOM II, DOOM 64, Doom 3, DOOM (2016) and DOOM Eternal all exist in the same timeline; and any discrepancies between them are easily explained as the effect undue stress has on short-term memory from the various protagonists (three of them by my count). They were in different places at roughly the same time, but remember things very differently. A lot of shit went down, you wouldn't have the best recall of events either.


I nearly smashed by keyboard in half when I got to that point in Doom Eternal where they linked the classic Dooms to it.
I was very interested in the '16/Eternal lore up until then. I'm really over the whole multiverse/same events repeating but slightly different/time reversal bullshit. It's really fucking lazy and seems to be the "go to" when a franchise's narrative is written into a nonsensical, inescapable corner and there's no way out but to press a switch and WOW!!! Everything's back at the start, but slightly different...

From that point in Eternal I kinda didn't give a shit about the lore anymore. It's like John McClane in Die Hard II... "How can the same shit happen to the same guy twice?"... If Samuel Hayden knew the Slayer was the Doomguy from the original UAC incident in the original timeline and sat back and allowed humans and the UAC in the new timeline to literally repeat the same events on Mars, knowing full well what would happen. That's pretty damn irresponsible and downright egregiously stupid of him. He could've prevented the events of '16/Eternal by NOT leading the expedition party to recover the Slayer's tomb, knowing that opening it would create a repeat of Hell's invasion of Mars and Earth.

Real bright Sam... *slow clap*

But I suppose, if he wasn't so dumb we'd have no point for '16/Eternal's existance... making the entire plot point of linking the universes simply an excuse to justify '16/Eternal's existance in the first place. '16 is meant to be reboot anyway... so any links to previous games would make it a sequel, not a reboot. Doom Eternal really unnecessarily fucked with the entire Doom narrative and made it really confusing, convoluted and honestly... dumb.

So, my headcanon...

The Ultimate Doom -> Sigil -> Sigil II -> Doom II: Hell On Earth -> Final Doom -> Doom64 -> END
Doom 3 -> Resurrection Of Evil -> END
Doom '16 -> Doom Eternal -> END

3 separate stories, 3 separate protagonists.

"Don't cross the streams!!"

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On 9/10/2023 at 7:10 PM, Astar said:

Barons of Hell have massive schlongs;

ugh finally one I can get behind (Or they can get behind me ig hehe) I'll add it to the commission "idiot rattlesnake in dangerous situations" ideas pile

As for on-topic, Doom 3 takes place in the same time as the invasion on Phobos n' Deimos, just on Mars itself. The Phobos and Deimos bases were just backwater ones (right?) which why they didn't get as much equipment attention as the Mars base, who, even then were dealing with poorer quality goods. All them different demon types? Hell is probably big enough to send forces/beasts from region X to Phobos and Earth while sending forces/beasts from region Y to just Mars.

Edited by HeatedChocolate

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