Xbox 360 marketplace shutting down on July 29th, 2024

[Panzermann11]

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2023/08/17/xbox-360-store-will-close-july-2024/

 

Personally, I don't, or at least still don't get why Microsoft would do this. There's plenty of games that are only on the Marketplace and not available anywhere else, and DLC for games that aren't backwards compatible with Xbox One and Series X/S. I don't even have a single Xbox console, either. Sony was going to shut down their marketplace for PS3, and they kept it up because of the backlash they got. I'd wager the same thing would happen for Xbox 360.

Edited September 22, 2023 by Panzermann11

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

Dumbass decision, but not unexpected. It's truly the end of an era in an era where eras are truly ending every twelve seconds.

[Mr Masker]

I'd say I'll miss the Xbox Live Indie Section, but that was already shut down years ago.

 

RIP Xbox 360 Marketplace, fond memories of a simpler time. I love growing up and having all the things I liked disappear around me... :')

Edited September 20, 2023 by Mr Masker

[MS-06FZ Zaku II Kai]

24 minutes ago, Mr Masker said:

I'd say I'll miss the Xbox Live Indie Section, but that was already shut down years ago.

 

RIP Xbox 360 Marketplace, fond memories of a simpler time. I love growing up and having all the things I liked disappear around me... :')

We're like a digital nomads seeing a once great stepe being replaced by "civilized" lands

[Panzermann11]

14 hours ago, MS-06FZ Zaku II Kai said:

We're like a digital nomads seeing a once great stepe being replaced by "civilized" lands

Funny, don't you think? It's like we're natives, and corporations are the colonists.

Edited September 21, 2023 by Panzermann11

[nolongeramnion]

3 hours ago, Panzermann11 said:

Funny, don't you think? We're like natives, and corporations are the colonists.

Funny, don't you think? We're like Nicole brown, and corporations are O. J. Simpson.

[Blzut3]

It's inevitable that the interface to buy content would at some point not be worth maintaining.  The Xbox 360's situation is a little bit interesting since they have the backwards compatibility stuff, which I assume if you buy would still be playable on the 360?  There will probably be a point where the download servers shut down as well, but of course it's fair to expect those to be maintained much longer.

 

In regards to the content on the store that's not available for backwards compatibility, one thing to remember is that the offerings for these old stores was slowly dwindling as publishing licenses expire (which happens for a wide variety of reasons).  People forget that even though digital distribution doesn't have manufacturing costs, it doesn't make licensing issues/costs go away.  Even if Microsoft kept the store up forever eventually the content available on them would be next to nothing.  I would assume the stuff which has no licensing restrictions could have been made available on the new store already.

[Devalaous]

Given how awkward and user unfriendly Xenia is, I guess I wont be playing those download-only games on PC anytime soon. Lets hope my existing 360 hasnt died while in storage.

[Edward850]

@Blzut3 yup that's basically all spot on. The 360 store shutting down only affects the ability to purchase content on the 360, but anything that's migrated to the Xbox One/Series store for backwards compatibility will still remain purchasable and will still be downloadable on the 360 if done that way, as the account is the same on both systems. This weirdly even applies to some original Xbox games which also show up on the 360, implying that Xbox actually decided to reuse the Xbox digital classics framework for the One rather than remake a whole new thing.

 

And yeah, it seems to be that there's just not a lot left to maintain on the store. So much has already been delisted or is already on the new store, the 360 store is just rather redundant at this point rather than it being a case of "old thing is old" like what Sony tried with the PS3. Frankly it's surprising it's been usable at all since the removal of Microsoft Points and the addition of 2FA that requires a 360 to login with a dedicated app password instead as it can't use 2FA.

Edited September 21, 2023 by Edward850

[TheMagicMushroomMan]

12 minutes ago, Edward850 said:

@Blzut3 yup that's basically all spot on. The 360 store shutting down only affects the ability to purchase content on the 360, but anything that's migrated to the Xbox One/Series store for backwards compatibility will still remain purchasable and will still be downloadable on the 360 if done that way, as the account is the same on both systems. This weirdly even applies to some original Xbox games which also show up on the 360, implying that Xbox actually decided to reuse the Xbox digital classics framework for the One rather than remake a whole new thing.

 

And yeah, it seems to be that there's just not a lot left to maintain on the store. So much has already been delisted or is already on the new store, the 360 store is just rather redundant at this point rather than it being a case of "old thing is old" like what Sony tried with the PS3. Frankly it's surprising it's been usable at all since the removal of Microsoft Points and the addition of 2FA that requires a 360 to login with a dedicated app password instead as it can't use 2FA.

Damn, as someone who hasn't used an Xbox since they still had Microsoft Points, this is all news to me. I really miss the old days of digital shopping though, even if it sucked in many ways. The Wii even tricked me into thinking that spending ten dollars for a flash-quality game I could play for free on my PC was a charming experience. I remember playing Defend Your Castle thinking it was cool as shit. Looking back, it was all novelty. The Xbox and PS3 had much better things, but the interface could be so fucking s l o w.

Edited September 21, 2023 by TheMagicMushroomMan

[LoatharMDPhD]

// It's slick business moves like this that spoils consumer confidence in a product. gen 4-8 consuls will work just fine with the hard media purchased for them, built right enough to ship a physical release {for better or for worse}, and  with rudimentary wires and an a TV from sometime in the last 40 years, and some electricity, one can still enjoy sonic hedgehog 2 etc....

 

// this is why we love Doom... they gave a shit when it was built, and thanks to Dr. Carmack {insert Civvie11 references here} and the GPL, we can spend 10 seconds on any integrated circuit, booting up the Doom Deamon and get right into the GampePlay that was quested after by so few geeks so many years ago way off in Texas...

[Edward850]

4 minutes ago, LoatharMDPhD said:

// It's slick business moves like this that spoils consumer confidence in a product.

You might actually want to read the posts from Blzut3 and I.

[Kinsie]

49 minutes ago, Devalaous said:

Given how awkward and user unfriendly Xenia is

Huh? I was able to just File > Open files directly from my Xbox 360 (digital games and HDD installs thrown onto a USB stick) just fine.

[Murdoch]

55 minutes ago, Devalaous said:

Given how awkward and user unfriendly Xenia is, I guess I wont be playing those download-only games on PC anytime soon. Lets hope my existing 360 hasnt died while in storage.

 

The article clearly states existing purchases remain available. So long as you haven't lost the relevant Microsoft account, you're fine.

[Devalaous]

1 hour ago, Edward850 said:

@Blzut3 yup that's basically all spot on. The 360 store shutting down only affects the ability to purchase content on the 360, but anything that's migrated to the Xbox One/Series store for backwards compatibility will still remain purchasable and will still be downloadable on the 360 if done that way, as the account is the same on both systems. This weirdly even applies to some original Xbox games which also show up on the 360, implying that Xbox actually decided to reuse the Xbox digital classics framework for the One rather than remake a whole new thing.

 

And yeah, it seems to be that there's just not a lot left to maintain on the store. So much has already been delisted or is already on the new store, the 360 store is just rather redundant at this point rather than it being a case of "old thing is old" like what Sony tried with the PS3. Frankly it's surprising it's been usable at all since the removal of Microsoft Points and the addition of 2FA that requires a 360 to login with a dedicated app password instead as it can't use 2FA.

 

Ah, so its like the PSP store, how it just stopped the old platform from buying things, but all the stuff was still there and available on newer systems. I still sometimes wonder about getting an X1, if just to preserve some of my 360 library and revisit a few, so having some of my library still available afterall is neat.

 

51 minutes ago, Kinsie said:

Huh? I was able to just File > Open files directly from my Xbox 360 (digital games and HDD installs thrown onto a USB stick) just fine.

 

When I tried to use it it was an unwieldly mess where almost nothing actually worked, and the developer pages was full of memes and snarky unprofessional nonsense that really put me off; im way more used to Duckstation/PCSX2/RPCS3/PPSSPP all having nice UIs and user-friendly installs, I even got all my saves off my dead PS3 and PSP and got to carry on with almost everything intact. No such luck on the 360 emulator.

[Kinsie]

3 minutes ago, Devalaous said:

When I tried to use it it was an unwieldly mess where almost nothing actually worked, and the developer pages was full of memes and snarky unprofessional nonsense that really put me off; im way more used to Duckstation/PCSX2/RPCS3/PPSSPP all having nice UIs and user-friendly installs, I even got all my saves off my dead PS3 and PSP and got to carry on with almost everything intact. No such luck on the 360 emulator.

Weird, worked fine for me with my own games. UI could be nicer, but it's entirely servicable. Emulation quality varies (Doom 2 had a lot of flickering when I was taking this shot) but that there's emulation at all for this generation of console is still a miracle to me.

 

[Panzermann11]

 

2 hours ago, Murdoch said:

The article clearly states existing purchases remain available. So long as you haven't lost the relevant Microsoft account, you're fine.

Forgive me if I don't sound very smart, but are they still available for purchase on the current Xbox store, even if the game isn't backwards-compatible?

Edited September 21, 2023 by Panzermann11

[Edward850]

10 minutes ago, Panzermann11 said:

Forgive me if I sound like I'm living under a rock, but are they still available for purchase on the current Xbox store, even if the game isn't backwards-compatible?

No it has to be explicitly backwards compatible for it to be on the new store. However if it is, any purchase is valid and even discs.

Edited September 21, 2023 by Edward850

[Panzermann11]

On 9/21/2023 at 12:13 PM, Edward850 said:

No it has to be explicitly backwards compatible for it to be on the new store.

I see. I'm extremely worried about this, this essentially means games not backwards compatible and DLC for them to an extent might eventually become lost to time, especially those which haven't seen any release on the PC, or any other platform, for that matter. Just for reference, this is a list of games that aren't backwards compatible for the Xbox One and onwards.

Edited September 22, 2023 by Panzermann11

[Edward850]

You'll probably find that a lot of those games and DLC are already delisted (or wasn't available digitally at any point). The list of stuff still available that's on the 360 only is smaller than you'd first think.

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/analysis-more-than-220-digital-games-will-disappear-when-the-xbox-360-store-closes/

This list isn't even properly indicative. Some of these games are available in compilation disks, or straight up aren't Xbox360 exclusive like Duke Nukem 3D.

 

Edit: This is probably the actual list. Most of them are Kinect titles, which... yeah.

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0D Beat Drop

Arkadian Warriors

Battlezone

Blazing Birds

CrazyMouse

Crimson Alliance

Deadliest Warrior: Battlegrounds

Diabolical Pitch (Kinect)

Double Dragon II: Wander of the Dragons

Fire Pro Wrestling

Freefall Racers (Kinect)

Fruit Ninja Kinect

Full House Poker

Fusion: Genesis

Gel: Set & Match

Geon: Emotions

Haunt (Kinect)

Home Run Stars (Kinect)

Hybrid

JAM Live Music Arcade

Kinect Fun Labs: Air Band

Kinect Fun Labs: Avatar Kinect

Kinect Fun Labs: Battle Stuff

Kinect Fun Labs: Bobble Head

Kinect Fun Labs: Build A Buddy

Kinect Fun Labs: Googly Eyes

Kinect Fun Labs: I Am Super!

Kinect Fun Labs: Junk Fu

Kinect Fun Labs: Kinect Me

Kinect Fun Labs: Kinect Rush: Snapshot

Kinect Fun Labs: Kinect Sparkler

Kinect Fun Labs: Mars Rover Landing

Kinect Fun Labs: Musical Feet

Kinect Fun Labs: Mutation Station

Kinect Sports Gems: 10 Frame Bowling

Kinect Sports Gems: 3 Point Contest

Kinect Sports Gems: Boxing Fight

Kinect Sports Gems: Darts vs. Zombies

Kinect Sports Gems: Field Goal Contest

Kinect Sports Gems: Penalty Saver

Kinect Sports Gems: Ping Pong

Kinect Sports Gems: Prize Driver

Kinect Sports Gems: Reaction Rally

Kinect Sports Gems: Ski Race

Leedmees (Kinect)

Mini Ninjas Adventures (Kinect)

Panzer General: Allied Assault

Schizoid

Shooting Love 200X (Digital only NTSC-U + PAL + NTSC-J)

South Park Let's Go Tower Defense Play!

South Park: Tenorman's Revenge

Spyglass Board Games

The Path of Go

Totemball

Wing Commander Arena

Wits & Wagers

Wreckateer (Kinect)

Yo-Ho Kablammo

Zombie Wranglers

 

Edited September 21, 2023 by Edward850